NFL News Chargers Release DE Joey Bosa

[Bill Lee]

Guys

we have 140 million on the bank

so what if Bosa is a rotational piece, he's an awesome rotational piece

There's a difference between a normal rotational piece and an unreliable rotational piece.

With Bosa you can't count on him being available for rotational duty.

Some times he gets ruled out early on the week, other times on game day, other times during a game.

This really wastes a roster spot, screws up game plans, and wastes coaching bandwidth.

 

[Real fan 02]

completely agree with Felger.
There is absolutely zero reason why they should not have traded a 2026 fourth for him. Sign off things to come next week?

When do we play the bills?

 

[JayNM]

There's a difference between a normal rotational piece and an unreliable rotational piece.

With Bosa you can't count on him being available for rotational duty.

Some times he gets ruled out early on the week, other times on game day, other times during a game.

This really wastes a roster spot, screws up game plans, and wastes coaching bandwidth.

I'll tell you this

when the season start,and we are holding onto a **** ton of cap, once more (hopefully it won't happen)

something something rage

 

[Dedhampatsfan]

Dan Moore will be the worst we can do SBB. Stanley still hasn't re-signed yet, I believe the teams also acknowledged that the coaching made jacobs and brown look worse than they actually were.. I'm in no way saying they are starting level players.. they are back ups.. we just need to get a real LT in here.. felger is always blowing his pie hole.. they will get talent here..

Absolutely coaching has a big part of it. OL has been bad since Scar left. Hopefully, that's about to change.

 

[TommyD4207]

Guys

we have 140 million on the bank

so what if Bosa is a rotational piece, he's an awesome rotational piece

He's played 18 games in the last three seasons.

 

[JayNM]

He's played 18 games in the last three seasons.

So if we have like 10 games of Bosa for this year, its a success?

I honestly don't think this forum realizes how much 140 million of cap space is really....

we have more than enough to "buy mistakes". Specially this year, without a Elite heavy free agency

edit - just to put context here

Take Zach Baun's 3 year, 51M- 17 pY

thats like 12% of the AVAILABLE cap space, for a guy who would play what? 40% of all snaps for 3 years, if we are lucky?

We have A LOT of money

 

[Clonamery]

He's played 18 games in the last three seasons.

So he's fresh?

 

[Pape]

We have A LOT of money

if we don't spend it, what good is it? its worth nothing...

at this point we need to take a few risks on some older players, just to add talent to the roster... we are in desperate need of talent/depth...

in 2000/2001 we were in the middle of a roster revamp after BB came on board... guys he brought along for the ride include
anthony pleasant - 2001 - 33 years old
roman phifer - 2001 - 33 years old
bobby hamilton - 2000 - 29 years old
otis smith - 2000 - 35 years old
mike compton - 2001 - 31 years old
antowain smith - 2001 - 29 years old
terrell buckley - 2001 - 30 years old
brian cox - 2001- 33 years old

These guys played, for the most part, 2-4 years here contributing in a significant manner to championship teams... all in their 30's (or were on the brink of 30)...

We have the cap space to add talent... so what if some of them are "misses"... we have so much room, we can easily eat those mistakes... won't hurt the bottom line at all

 

[Clonamery]

if we don't spend it, what good is it? its worth nothing...

at this point we need to take a few risks on some older players, just to add talent to the roster... we are in desperate need of talent/depth...

in 2000/2001 we were in the middle of a roster revamp after BB came on board... guys he brought along for the ride include
anthony pleasant - 2001 - 33 years old
roman phifer - 2001 - 33 years old
bobby hamilton - 2000 - 29 years old
otis smith - 2000 - 35 years old
mike compton - 2001 - 31 years old
antowain smith - 2001 - 29 years old
terrell buckley - 2001 - 30 years old
brian cox - 2001- 33 years old

These guys played, for the most part, 2-4 years here contributing in a significant manner to championship teams... all in their 30's (or were on the brink of 30)...

We have the cap space to add talent... so what if some of them are "misses"... we have so much room, we can easily eat those mistakes... won't hurt the bottom line at all

How much are you paying for his 6 games a year?

 

[JayNM]

if we don't spend it, what good is it? its worth nothing...

at this point we need to take a few risks on some older players, just to add talent to the roster... we are in desperate need of talent/depth...

in 2000/2001 we were in the middle of a roster revamp after BB came on board... guys he brought along for the ride include
anthony pleasant - 2001 - 33 years old
roman phifer - 2001 - 33 years old
bobby hamilton - 2000 - 29 years old
otis smith - 2000 - 35 years old
mike compton - 2001 - 31 years old
antowain smith - 2001 - 29 years old
terrell buckley - 2001 - 30 years old
brian cox - 2001- 33 years old

These guys played, for the most part, 2-4 years here contributing in a significant manner to championship teams... all in their 30's (or were on the brink of 30)...

We have the cap space to add talent... so what if some of them are "misses"... we have so much room, we can easily eat those mistakes... won't hurt the bottom line at all

Right

and the message that we are sending so far for the market is: Yeah, this is a rebuilding thing, dont come here if you want to win something in the next 2 to 3 years.

Like, im not one to overreact over team building in March. But if there is anyone in the club still thinking we can be "wait-ers" and not movers, he needs to be gone NOW

 

[Pape]

How much are you paying for his 6 games a year?

That's the thing - I don't care what he costs.

and quite frankly, neither should you.

last year he played on an 8 million dollar salary... he knows hes not a 30 million dollar a year guy any more.

all this pearl clutching about money is ridiculous... Its not your money, its not coming out of your pocket...

You think by some miracle the perfect player who plays all 17 games, has elite production, is 27 years old is going to suddenly become available and *wants* to play in new england because he likes lobster rolls and we *won't* be able to afford him because we (over) paid joey bosa 10 or even 15 million dollars? good grief charlie brown...

 

[JayNM]

How much are you paying for his 6 games a year?

me personally I would sleep very well with around 26M (going up to 30) for 2 years, +1 club optional for spreading cap purposes, HEAVY in incentives first, but also a fat guaranteed %. And we can get crazier with putting more money in his first year, making the next one optional, at lower cost.

It's barely cracks the top 20 Edge rushers, and we can keep him as an super sub. (check yourself Edge Rusher Contracts and Salaries | Over The Cap)

You are assuming he is going to break down, which is fair. But that is far from guaranteed and the upside is enormous

 

[JayNM]

That's the thing - I don't care what he costs.

and quite frankly, neither should you.

last year he played on an 8 million dollar salary... he knows hes not a 30 million dollar a year guy any more.

all this pearl clutching about money is ridiculous... Its not your money, its not coming out of your pocket...

You think by some miracle the perfect player who plays all 17 games, has elite production, is 27 years old is going to suddenly become available and *wants* to play in new england because he likes lobster rolls and we *won't* be able to afford him because we (over) paid joey bosa 10 or even 15 million dollars? good grief charlie brown...

Thank god Im not the one saying this

 

[Bill Lee]

You are assuming he is going to break down, which is fair. But that is far from guaranteed and the upside is enormous

In other words, it's a gamble, one not likely to pay off since the team that knows him the best just released him instead of paying $8M a year.

IMO this team is quite short on core players. Spending money on a injury prone rotational player is pretty dumb, IMO.

The guy is in the "more name than game" phase of his career. Let someone else have him. He'll be nothing but a distraction here.

 

[Sciz]

That's the thing - I don't care what he costs.

and quite frankly, neither should you.

last year he played on an 8 million dollar salary... he knows hes not a 30 million dollar a year guy any more.

all this pearl clutching about money is ridiculous... Its not your money, its not coming out of your pocket...

You think by some miracle the perfect player who plays all 17 games, has elite production, is 27 years old is going to suddenly become available and *wants* to play in new england because he likes lobster rolls and we *won't* be able to afford him because we (over) paid joey bosa 10 or even 15 million dollars? good grief charlie brown...

How many players are you willing to overpay by $15M each? Only takes seven of them to get over $100M in total overpayment. Not so insignificant anymore.

 

[JayNM]

In other words, it's a gamble, one not likely to pay off since the team that knows him the best just released him instead of paying $8M a year.

IMO this team is quite short on core players. Spending money on a injury prone rotational player is pretty dumb, IMO.

The guy is in the "more name than game" phase of his career. Let someone else have him. He'll be nothing but a distraction here.

I will just say this:

We need to make a splash move soon. Otherwise, whoever you think its more cost effective will not want to come here.

 

[Clonamery]

That's the thing - I don't care what he costs.

and quite frankly, neither should you.

last year he played on an 8 million dollar salary... he knows hes not a 30 million dollar a year guy any more.

all this pearl clutching about money is ridiculous... Its not your money, its not coming out of your pocket...

You think by some miracle the perfect player who plays all 17 games, has elite production, is 27 years old is going to suddenly become available and *wants* to play in new england because he likes lobster rolls and we *won't* be able to afford him because we (over) paid joey bosa 10 or even 15 million dollars? good grief charlie brown...

I hate waste and so should you.

Saying I wear pearls is insulting, I'm more a Pandora guy so GFY.

 

[Real fan 02]

if we don't spend it, what good is it? its worth nothing...

at this point we need to take a few risks on some older players, just to add talent to the roster... we are in desperate need of talent/depth...

in 2000/2001 we were in the middle of a roster revamp after BB came on board... guys he brought along for the ride include
anthony pleasant - 2001 - 33 years old
roman phifer - 2001 - 33 years old
bobby hamilton - 2000 - 29 years old
otis smith - 2000 - 35 years old
mike compton - 2001 - 31 years old
antowain smith - 2001 - 29 years old
terrell buckley - 2001 - 30 years old
brian cox - 2001- 33 years old

These guys played, for the most part, 2-4 years here contributing in a significant manner to championship teams... all in their 30's (or were on the brink of 30)...

We have the cap space to add talent... so what if some of them are "misses"... we have so much room, we can easily eat those mistakes... won't hurt the bottom line at all

IMO, this feels a bit reminiscent to the '21 off season. I feel like the team will be aggressive and they are gathering all the information on players heading into Monday. I think we'll see alot of players that fit what we need over what the wants.

I'm confident In Vrabel being able to reach guys and sell them on thier roles and impact being a patriots player.

Getting the trenches is the upmost important thing the organization can do. On the draft.. people forget Matt light didn't have the longest arms and was an all pro 10 year OT. Dan Moore is the worst we'll do in FA at OT.

 

[Pape]

How many players are you willing to overpay by $15M each? Only takes seven of them to get over $100M in total overpayment. Not so insignificant anymore.

Depends on who is available, doesn't it?

and that is a very disingenuous statement - I did not say overpay him by 15 million dollars...

But if he is "worth" 8 and we pay him 9 or 10 to get him here, hell yes i am going to do that. You can structure the deal to mitigate risk.

 

[Pape]

I hate waste and so should you.

Its not waste. Its using available resources. And that is 1000% better than not doing anything at all. The perfect player is not available... Not doing anything, being picky and choosy when you are a 4 win team is how you stay a 4 win team.

and in case you haven't noticed, we've won a total of 8 games over the last two years... 4 wins each.

Risk ≠ Waste.

Saying I wear pearls is insulting, I'm more a Pandora guy so GFY.

I never said you wore pearls.,,, because you can't get them around your neck because you are clutching them too tight, fretting about "waste"...