Cam Newton Tests Positive; Out for KC game

[Bill Lee]

Tom E Curran draws parallels between the Titans outbreak and our situation:

They couldn’t play. Period. In the wake of Cam Newton’s reported positive test for COVID-19 on Friday night, postponement was the only reasonable option the NFL could have handed down. ​

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And even their working plan now – to reportedly play the game either Monday or Tuesday – is aggressive and probably too optimistic. ​

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Unless the league wants to court a repeat of what happened with the Titans last week, there will be no Pats on planes for the next week. ​

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Tennessee already provided the case study of what not to do. Their timeline matches the Patriots'. An individual tested positive Friday, in their case a coach. Point of care tests were done Saturday and they all came back negative. ​

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The Titans climbed on a plane for a game against Minnesota, flew back and now – with three more positive tests reported Saturday – have 16 positive tests.​

Ref: Curran: For Pats, playing it safe means not playing at all this week

 

[Triumph]

Hoyer to start.

What happened to Stiffman?

 

[MoreBellhorn]

We don't know BUT we need to find out. If he was reckless with his behavior and put our season in jeopardy then there needs to be accountability there.

“Our?” You don’t play for the team, bud. What “reckless” means to you might be totally different than what it means to the organization. The amount of victim blaming for getting Covid carries on. It just really baffles me. We don’t really need to find out anything unless he held a huge raging party. Just stop.

 

[PittPatriot]

Who gives a **** if he went out? Maybe he went out for dinner with his family. You can take all of the precautions while living your life and still get Covid. Would you like him to stay inside 24/7? Not everyone is a hermit like you.

Going out to dinner is a risk.
You can either choose to take that risk or get take out (or have a full time chef make you whatever you want at any time like some of these guys have).

 

[fnordcircle]

Selfish people do selfish things.

Stupid people post stupid things.

 

[Deus Irae]

Going out to dinner is a risk.
You can either choose to take that risk or get take out (or have a full time chef make you whatever you want at any time like some of these guys have).

Everything is a risk. It's ludicrous to think players should make themselves hermits for 6 months.

 

[PittPatriot]

“Our?” You don’t play for the team, bud. What “reckless” means to you might be totally different than what it means to the organization. The amount of victim blaming for getting Covid carries on. It just really baffles me.

Victim blaming is wrong, but it's not like he is an essential worker who is at risk but his livelihood depends on it.
I think NFL players have the means to mitigate that risk.

 

[MoreBellhorn]

Everything is a risk. It's ludicrous to think players should make themselves hermits for 6 months.

“But bro just get a chef for three meals a day lol.” These players are people, not ****ing robots. They want to go out with family for dinner and do whatever within the rules.

 

[amfootball]

Victim blaming is wrong, but it's not like he is an essential worker who is at risk but his livelihood depends on it.
I think NFL players have the means to mitigate that risk.

Exactly. All the players were told to mitigate risk. That the season depended on all of them doing the right thing. Bill was just saying that this week when he was asked about what the org is doing to be safe. That being said, Newton may have gotten it in a variety of ways. We need to find that out. I think that is fair given the ramifications of his positive test.

 

[Bill Lee]

I guess it all comes down to how much of a cost hit the NFL would take per game postponed or lost due to COVID, and the risk that the whole season might be canceled if players feel their long term career and health is at risk and refuse to play.


The article says the NFL was being told otherwise:

As the NFL was finalizing its plans for the 2020 season amid the coronavirus pandemic last month, epidemiologist Zachary Binney advocated a severe strategy to anyone who would listen. The league, Binney said, would need 32 self-contained "market bubbles" to keep its essential staff healthy during COVID-19 spikes this fall and winter.

Instead the NFL chose to rely on "guidelines against high-risk behavior when in the community".
Ref: Bubbles are working for other sports. Why did the NFL decide against one?

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Correct. Been numerous people around the world who have got it a 2nd time already..

Numerous as you said, who got it a second time. Which means you can get it again. So it's not like getting it once means you're "safe". An important point for anyone trying to claim there's some sort of herd immunity before vaccine.

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[SHOWTIME15]

Nah, my team's game got postponed.

You're a chiefs fan now?

 

[PittPatriot]

Everything is a risk. It's ludicrous to think players should make themselves hermits for 6 months.

They are spending 8-12 hours daily in large open spaces with constant interaction with large groups of teammates. They haveaccess to anything they want (players can literally reserve the restaurant for the evening unlike the rest of us). I would not call any of that "hermetic."

 

[PittPatriot]

Exactly. All the players were told to mitigate risk. That the season depended on all of them doing the right thing. Bill was just saying that this week when he was asked about what the org is doing to be safe. That being said, Newton may have gotten it in a variety of ways. We need to find that out. I think that is fair given the ramifications of his positive test.

We would love to know...but we probably will never get privy to that knowledge.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

There are risks to everything in life. The clerk at Dunkin, the Uber driver and UPS/FedEx/Amazon delivery guy. The ER doc and nurse treating COVID patients and your dentist and hygienist working in an aerosol swamp... all are at risk of getting the disease even if extremely careful.. The fact that Newton got exposed doesn't mean he did anything wrong, it's the luck of the draw.... You can mitigate the risk but not eliminate it entirely...

 

[amfootball]

We would love to know...but we probably will never get privy to that knowledge.

Don't count out our trolling reporters. I guarantee Volin is all over this and Shank too.

 

[MoreBellhorn]

Going out to dinner is a risk.
You can either choose to take that risk or get take out (or have a full time chef make you whatever you want at any time like some of these guys have).

Yes, I’m sure 3K+ players and personnel have personal chefs cook them meals and get takeout 5-7 meals total. I say that because only the Titans have had several players and personnel test positive so far. There’s no way 3K+ players and personnel have personal chefs cook them meals or order every meal everyday. They go out and have dinner. That’s how it works. I know that because this isn’t a bubble like the NBA. ****, the Raiders went out for a charity event.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

They are spending 8-12 hours daily in large open spaces with constant interaction with large groups of teammates. They haveaccess to anything they want (players can literally reserve the restaurant for the evening unlike the rest of us). I would not call any of that "hermetic."

There's no report of Cam doing anything risky, no evidence that he even left his house except to go to work. Absent that, then there's nothing to discuss here, just a fake controversy.

 

[Deus Irae]

They are spending 8-12 hours daily in large open spaces with constant interaction with large groups of teammates. They haveaccess to anything they want (players can literally reserve the restaurant for the evening unlike the rest of us). I would not call any of that "hermetic."

I'm sorry you can't grasp the concept of forced isolation being bad, because a word choice has you thrown. They would be forced away from society and into a form of isolation. If you prefer to call it a forced secular monasticism rather than them becoming hermits, go for it.

 

[RIpats88]

I dont see how they play tuesday. They need to jut postpone the game. It almost seems as if the NFL never had a plan.

People need to stop "covid shaming" people who get it. One of my friends got it and he was the most cautious person you can find. Then I know people who go to bars, dont wear masks and they havent caught it.

I a virus. Its no different than the Flu or catching a cold. You can take all the precautions in the world and still get it. Unless you have NEVER been sick in your life no one should shame anyone who catches covid