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Brady contract situation (Merged - UPDATED:Deal Done)

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Cap gets pushed into a player’s retirement all the time. $2 million has been pushed into Gronk’s “retirement”. More than likely it will in Brady case as well. His 2020 cap figure is currently at $37 million, so it’s very likely a good chunk of that will be thrown forward into 2021 or beyond.

2022
Kraft family: "Yeah, this has been a good ride, but we are tired of it all. We've sold the team."
New Owners: "Wow! We just bought the winningest, most financially sound franchise in history!"
Belichick: "I'm outa' here, good luck everyone!"
Brady: "Hold the door, Bill."
New Owners: "There's a $75M cap hit this year from Brady's retirement!?!?"
 
Giselle must be like: “Oh, that’s nice, put it in the cookie jar on the kitchen counter.”

Great deal for everyone all around though. It’s beautiful having smart people run the team we follow.
 
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Brady finally has a max deal!
 
Cap gets pushed into a player’s retirement all the time. $2 million has been pushed into Gronk’s “retirement”. More than likely it will in Brady case as well. His 2020 cap figure is currently at $37 million, so it’s very likely a good chunk of that will be thrown forward into 2021 or beyond.
How does that work? I was under the impression that bonus acceleration into the current year worked the same for both the player retiring and the player being cut. So how exactly is cap "pushed into a player's retirement"?
 
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One thing I know:

Marriage might not last forever, but my love for Brady always will!
 
TOM BRADY IS GETTING SCREWED!!!!!

TOM BRADY IS CHEATING BY TAKING LESS MONEY!!!!!



Take your pick.

You forgot the fact that he is a SYSTEM QB
 
Good. Interest in the numbers.

You know what, I'm not even 30 and this guy has given me a nearly lifetime of sports enjoyment that no one ever will. Throw the fu**king checkbook at him, his value isnt even calculable.
 
Here is what I believe happened:

All sides wanted this story out of the media glare. This contract is nothing more than a 1 year, $23 million deal, structured in such a way to provide short term cap relief. The powers-that-be wanted to shut the mediots up and they knew this would do it. I don't see any way whatsoever he plays next year under this current deal. The 2020 and 2021 years in this deal aren't even worth the paper their printed on. As such, everyone gets to table negotiations until summer 2020 without the media spotlight of Brady being in his "walk year".

Just one man's theory....
 
Assumptions (based on things I've read. May be wrong).
* 2019 cap was $27mil
* Brady 2019 cash to be paid was $15mil (based on reports saying he's now getting paid $23mil and that was a $8mil raise).
* Therefore 2019 dead cap is $12mil (since $15 + $12 = $27)
* New deal freed up $5.5mil in cap, which means his new cap hit is $27-$5.5 = $21.5
* (Big assumption here) New deals cannot affect pre-existing dead cap for that year.

If so, that means that the $21.5mil cap hit consists of the $12mil dead cap and a $9.5mil cap hit from the $23mil cash he's getting paid in 2019.
To pay out $23mil cash with a $9.5mil cap hit means a $2.75mil salary and $20.25mil signing bonus.

That bonus will cause a $6.75mil add-on hit in 2020 and 2021, meaning hits of $36.75mil and $38.75mil in those years. Yow!!

However, Field Yates is reporting that 2020 and 2021 are "void years", meaning there are no guaranteed dollars associated with them and NE could cut Brady and not pay him anything. If so, as I understand it that would mean their cap hit would only be $6.75mil in 2021 if he was cut just before that season or $13.5mil in 2020 if he was cut just before that season.
Economist BB will have his aging “declining” (if he was mortal ) QB consume 20% of his available cap space in ‘20 and ‘21 on a team that looks to be more defense reliant + run-centric in the future???????????

Still waiting on the real numbers but at first glance me thinks the 2 tack on years are meaningless filler which could only mean......
 
Here is what I believe happened:

All sides wanted this story out of the media glare. This contract is nothing more than a 1 year, $23 million deal, structured in such a way to provide short term cap relief. The powers-that-be wanted to shut the mediots up and they knew this would do it. I don't see any way whatsoever he plays next year under this current deal. The 2020 and 2021 years in this deal aren't even worth the paper their printed on.

Just one man's theory....
Yeah. The only way this contract works is if both sides figure Brady's retiring after 2019 or if Brady (for the first time ever) is willing to take a big pay cut. (Or the contract gets extended another 2-3 years, but that doesn't help if Brady can't/doesn't play those years).
 
Cap gets pushed into a player’s retirement all the time. $2 million has been pushed into Gronk’s “retirement”. More than likely it will in Brady case as well. His 2020 cap figure is currently at $37 million, so it’s very likely a good chunk of that will be thrown forward into 2021 or beyond.

Of course it's happened before. That doesn't mean a rule won't be made after it benefits Brady and the Patriots.
 
So after all the noise from all the doomsayers it was business as usual and once again Brady and New England quietly worked things out like they always do and as most of us expected they would.

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you
 
Assumptions (based on things I've read. May be wrong).
* 2019 cap was $27mil
* Brady 2019 cash to be paid was $15mil (based on reports saying he's now getting paid $23mil and that was a $8mil raise).
* Therefore 2019 dead cap is $12mil (since $15 + $12 = $27)
* New deal freed up $5.5mil in cap, which means his new cap hit is $27-$5.5 = $21.5
* (Big assumption here) New deals cannot affect pre-existing dead cap for that year.

If so, that means that the $21.5mil cap hit consists of the $12mil dead cap and a $9.5mil cap hit from the $23mil cash he's getting paid in 2019.
To pay out $23mil cash with a $9.5mil cap hit means a $2.75mil salary and $20.25mil signing bonus.

That bonus will cause a $6.75mil add-on hit in 2020 and 2021, meaning hits of $36.75mil and $38.75mil in those years. Yow!!

However, Field Yates is reporting that 2020 and 2021 are "void years", meaning there are no guaranteed dollars associated with them and NE could cut Brady and not pay him anything. If so, as I understand it that would mean their cap hit would only be $6.75mil in 2021 if he was cut just before that season or $13.5mil in 2020 if he was cut just before that season.

That was an excellent job QM, and I've got a feeling that when it all comes out over the next few weeks, you are going to find you had most of it right.

There are three factors that stand out to me in this. First getting another $5MM or so in cap relief gets us to a point where we finally have enough to manage whatever in-season additions that occur in an average season. The $13MM in project space is NOT likely to be used for some "impact" signing, but to allow us to comfortably add a few "Simon-like" moves if necessary. Then IF we have great luck with injuries and the space remains deep into the season, THEN it can be used to extend some players.

The second key factor that this extension SEEMS to have is the so called "year to year" function. This is brilliant imo, It essentially acknowledges the reality of Brady's year to year status as a current 42 year old. It protects the team if Brady actually hits a cliff or if he simply decides he's had enough. BTW- for example, if he DID decide to leave before the contract expires, the $6MM dead cap hit you described is just 3.2% of the current $188MM number. If the cap goes up as much as they think, that number will likely be closer to 2%. By any definition not a huge dead money hit. Hell we survived and thrived despite a bigger percentage dead cap hit on the Hernandez deal.

The last is how much Tom played the media with his "let's take a poll", "ask Mr. Kraft" comments. Clearly this is a complex deal that protects both sides and ensures Brady retire as a Patriot. You don't put something like this together over a few days. It is obvious this has been in the works for several weeks with both parties knowing it would get done.

I wonder if any in the media will get pissed at Tom for playing with them. I also wonder how many will create a narrative that Brady's comments were the impetus that spurred the contract to completion. Volin is a surety, but only if he sees someone else using it first

So I guess this "drama" is over. I wonder what the next one will be.
 
Economist BB will have his aging “declining” (if he was mortal ) QB consume 20% of his available cap space in ‘20 and ‘21 on a team that looks to be more defense reliant + run-centric in the future???????????

Still waiting on the real numbers but at first glance me thinks the 2 tack on years are meaningless filler which could only mean......

It needed to be a big money contract in order to get a nice raise and still open up cap space. Look for the deal to be reworked again next year.
 
So after all the noise from all the doomsayers it was business as usual and once again Brady and New England quietly worked things out like they always do and as most of us expected they would.

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you
Depends by what you mean “worked out”.
Based on the few bits of info we have to digest, this ‘deal’ essentially gave Brady a raise for this year which gives NE some needed 2019 cap relief.... and 6 months from now the media will be asking the same questions because TB’s future year $$$$ won’t fit within BB’ team building model. Not even close.
 
It needed to be a big money contract in order to get a nice raise and still open up cap space. Look for the deal to be reworked again next year.
Of course
Not worth the paper it is written on.

I guess there is some comfort NE retains Brady’s rights, as if they ever had to worry about that, but other than that ........

Retention fee:$8 mill
 
There were plenty of posters here ready to lose it, too.

That other thread earlier this week was a classic. As I said all along there was a 0.00% chance he was going anywhere else. The fact that anyone here thought there was a chance next year at age 43 that he and his wife were going to take his chances with his ability to walk for the rest of his life to go 7-9 with a Tampa Bay was just sad.

My fave was the poster who got bent out of shape when Brady kiddingly told the reporters “Good question, why don’t you ask Mr. Kraft” and took it as then being an “explosive” situation. People will want to believe wheat they want to believe I guess...
 
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No he won’t be gone, hopefully. But it will be the first time in his career playing out the last year of his contract. That’s just a fact. We’ll definitely be in unchartered territory.

Turns out 'we' were in the same well charted waters 'we' have always been in. It was business as usual. Imagine that.
 
Depends by what you mean “worked out”.
Based on the few bits of info we have to digest, this ‘deal’ essentially gave Brady a raise for this year which gives NE some needed 2019 cap relief.... and 6 months from now the media will be asking the same questions because TB’s future year $$$$ won’t fit within BB’ team building model. Not even close.
Yup. Assuming Brady doesn't retire shortly after this season, then in training camp a year from now it will be all about "is NE gonna cut Brady or will they work out an extension".

The only thing this contract does is give same cap relief this year and kick the can down the road one year. Which counts for something, admittedly.
 
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