Boutte available for trade?

[Wozzy]

********, Kraft said he wanted it to change, and later said it never did change. As I said before you are a liar, and that's proven by your denial that Belichick was given full control over football operations. You are a petulant child who can't handle any criticism of Belichick, eleven when those giving it acknowledge him as the GOAT. Adios *******, I'm don't talking football with someone who doesn't even accept the most basic facts.

Get over yourself, the bad man is gone… he can’t hurt you or Tom ever again.

 

[PatsFan2]

I get that too.
but if all are healthy, someone has to go
who returns more in a deal? Hollins? Pop? Boutte? WIlliams?

I think Trading Bouttte depends on how Pop Douglas - Kyle Willimans and Chism have progressed. IF KW gets it: I think he would be a Great compliment along side AJB. That said; I think Boutte is going have a Great Camp and make things very interesting.

 

[Rob0729]

So Kraft said personnel changed in 2021… but you don’t think it happened. Sounds legit.

I already said why Kraft said Bill retained complete control afterwards… because it crashed and burned.

Bob produced a documentary suggesting Bill was just a tourist along for the ride during the dynasty and slammed him in the media repeatedly. They were clearly salty.

One more and I am done. You clearly misunderstood what Kraft said. I and others have posted a direct quote from Kraft where he said he never took any personnel power away from Belichick and he always had final say on personnel. Everyone who has reported it including reporters YOU CITED said Belichick had final say and with the Mac Jones pick he decided to go with the the group consensus rather than overrule them.

And in fact, the reports mentioned that he actually Jones as a player, but just rather not draft a QB in the first round. That is probably why he passed on Lamar Jackson when McDaniels advocated for him. He just doesn't like to draft QBs in the first round.

I said I don't trust what either Kraft or Belichick say publicly. But the inside reports back Kraft's side of the story that Belichick maintained full control of personnel, but just agreed with Kraft to allow others provide input in the draft selection. But at any time, Belichick had the right to overrule the consensus. He chose not to with the Mac Jones pick.

 

[Rob0729]

I think Trading Bouttte depends on how Pop Douglas - Kyle Willimans and Chism have progressed. IF KW gets it: I think he would be a Great compliment along side AJB. That said; I think Boutte is going have a Great Camp and make things very interesting.

It is pretty clear that there will be an odd man out on this roster. I know people say the Pats will carry seven WRs, but I don't think that is going to be the case. Boutte, Pop, or Chism are the most likely candidates. I think Brown, Doubs, and Williams are untouchable. There is a chance it is Hollins, but for some reason I think they view him as a different skill set from the rest and he might stick.

 

[Wozzy]

One more and I am done. You clearly misunderstood what Kraft said. I and others have posted a direct quote from Kraft where he said he never took any personnel power away from Belichick and he always had final say on personnel. Everyone who has reported it including reporters YOU CITED said Belichick had final say and with the Mac Jones pick he decided to go with the the group consensus rather than overrule them.

And in fact, the reports mentioned that he actually Jones as a player, but just rather not draft a QB in the first round. That is probably why he passed on Lamar Jackson when McDaniels advocated for him. He just doesn't like to draft QBs in the first round.

I said I don't trust what either Kraft or Belichick say publicly. But the inside reports back Kraft's side of the story that Belichick maintained full control of personnel, but just agreed with Kraft to allow others provide input in the draft selection. But at any time, Belichick had the right to overrule the consensus. He chose not to with the Mac Jones pick.

I believed Bob when he said personnel was changing in 2021.

You say you don’t trust what either said… them say you believe Bob much later when he said Bill retained full power. So you clearly have a bias.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I wonder whom Bill would've taken instead of Corky...?

Lloyd, McDuffie and Hill were heavily mocked to the Pats. These were the most frequent players debated on here.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Yawn....
All I know, is BB and TFB won 6 Championships.
Nothing else matters to me.
Bashing Bill because he made mistakes, is WAY down the fkn list.

Moving on.

That's all I will say.