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Boutte available for trade?

Oh my god, seriously?

I'm supposed to count Ashby and the kickers as success stories?

STOP.

Pop Douglas most of the board wants him off the team, and he has not really done much outside his 1st year.
Pretty sure he was one of the people on here who tried to tell me Duke Dawson wasn't a bust.
 
I don't know why you aren't counting the kickers. Borregales was at least average as a rookie, not sure how he "wasn't even good". And Baringer just doesn't count because... reasons?

I'm also not sure why you aren't counting Ashby. He's a good long snapper. Everyone needs a long snapper. So he doesn't count because... reasons?

Pop Douglas doesn't count because... reasons? Here's their career stats:
Douglas - 146 receptions, 1629 yards, 11.2 YPR, 6 TDs
Boutte - 78 receptions, 1159 yards, 14.9 YPR, 9 TDs

Boutte has a higher yards per reception and more TDs but Douglas has significantly more yards and receptions, so when you said "starters or contributors" and counted Boutte, I don't see how you couldn't count Douglas, considering he's output 50% more yards and almost 100% more receptions than Boutte over 3 years.
The reason should be obvious.

Ashby, Baringer, Borregales are the kinds of guys anyone could find in free agency.

This is not a find.

Everyone has a punter like Baringer, a LS like Ashby, and while Borregales may eventually become better than an average kicker, he's not there.

These are not draft hits.
Like I said, even with Douglas it's 2 of 23 in the last 5 years.

Giving up Boutte for that? Come on
 
Yes. Seriously. You're being ridiculous here because you couldn't be bothered to state what your criteria was for a "hit". You also are the one who attempted to judge a draft after just 1 year.

If you aren't going to count Borregales and Barringer, then you shouldn't count the picks at all. You chose to count the pick in an attempt to exaggerate the situation. You should count Borregales because I even provided you with a perfect example of a player who was a 5th round kicker who was cut in Rohrwasser. Proof that drafted kickers aren't guaranteed anything.

It doesn't matter what "most of the board wants". What matters is that he's been a solid, though unspectacular player, for the team since he was drafted. Your little quip of "he's not done much" is ridiculous because, like Boutte, last year was his 3rd OC in as many years.

You presented a majorly flawed argument and, when given the chance to clarify, you chose to get defensive and stand your ground on said flawed argument.
Our kickers haven't proven anything. Baringer is about to get cut. And you have him as a success?

These guys shouldn't count.

I mean, comparing Boutte to Ashby is beyond ludicrous.

Fine, WHATEVER, let's count Ashby as a huge draft success (I refuse to count Baringer as that). It means we are 4 of 23 !

Great odds.

Let's trade Boutte and Treveyon Henderson or a 6th and a 7th!!
 
Doubs had the same HC and OC each of his 4 years in GB. Boutte had 3 different HCs and OCs in his 1st three years.

Boutte is also 2 years younger than Doubs and had maturity issues when he entered the league.
If you have to work this hard to explain how good he is, if we can't see it in his production from playing with Drake Maye the last two years.... then he simply is what he is. A decent possession WR and nothing more.
 
The real issue is the contract. The Patriots are willing to move on from Boutte because they don't want to pay him big money to be the 3rd or 4th WR on the roster.

If no trade materializes I'm fine with enjoying a little extra depth at WR for one season. But I think where there's smoke there's fire.
 
The real issue is the contract. The Patriots are willing to move on from Boutte because they don't want to pay him big money to be the 3rd or 4th WR on the roster.

If no trade materializes I'm fine with enjoying a little extra depth at WR for one season. But I think where there's smoke there's fire.
I told people here this months ago.

Boutte, Douglas and Hollins don't have a contract for next season.
 
Wasn't Baringer hurt late in the year?
I thought he was pretty good earlier.
I'm probably wrong, I usually am
 
I told people here this months ago.

Boutte, Douglas and Hollins don't have a contract for next season.
he is already on a contract (that is less than Hollins).
2027 is a long ways off.
Boutte is a great asset at a great value for 2026
why give it away for a day 3 draft pick?
that day 3 draft pick will still be there at the trade deadline Nov 4th
 
Doubs has outproduced Boutte every season. Despite the exploding WR contract market, Doubs is still the 22nd paid WR in the NFL in value and guarantees and 28th in AAV. He's hardly overpaid, he's just a product of an overinflated WR market.
was the replacement for diggs. not boutte.

is not, never will be as good as diggs
 
Boutte was considered a 1st rd pick B4 he blew out his ankle, and then had issues with the coaches..
Talent doesn't lie.
I haven't heard 1 word about him since he was drafted.
I saw him take a ball over the middle and truck to the house..
WHO have you seen do that over the years?
Who have you seen catch almost an impossible ball over his shoulder for a huge TD?
Kid is good, giving him up for a Malcontent with a bum knee at stupid $ is STUPID IMO.
Fkn Fantasy Players are pathetic. Bah
 
Agree with @WhatJustHappened ... Boutte has had zero issues outside the team and he literally catches everything. We finally draft a good WR that produces and we trade him? Dumb.
 
I like Boutte and he is definitely a gamer, but the reality is that he’s a limited WR that doesn’t have great numbers. He’s a contested catch guy who makes the most of his ability. If we bring in Brown he gets buried further in the depth chart, and likely becomes a FA. Better to take a 5th now if the plan is to bring on Brown and continue to develop Williams.

WR depth chart 2026

Brown
Doubs
Williams
Pop
Hollins
Boutte
Chism

And room only for FIVE on the 53 plus 3 on the PS.

BTW- it SHOULD be noted that all the WRs from last season were in a first time see a DIFFICULT Josh McDaniels offense. ALL of them should look better simply because it with be the 2nd time through and better again next year. It literally takes a few years before they have installed the better part of the offense. They literally were using the Cliff Notes version last year. we are probably close to a decade away from see the offense Tom Brady was using in 2010's
 
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he is already on a contract (that is less than Hollins).
2027 is a long ways off.
Boutte is a great asset at a great value for 2026
why give it away for a day 3 draft pick?
that day 3 draft pick will still be there at the trade deadline Nov 4th
I already answered this.

Respond to what I wrote.

Don’t just repeat yourself.
 
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