PATRIOTS NEWS BoB officially back

[Ross12]

As a Bama fan I can tell you that that our fans that were upset with him were because deep down he is a NFL OC.
Calling plays in college and the NFL is just different. BOB is a really good NFL OC, but not a good college OC.
Just 1 example, in college you rarely throw inside the 5 yard line, BOB called it all the time and we turned it over numerous times. He even did it with a red shirt freshman playing when Bryce was out.
Honestly he was also very predictable and lacked creative plays. His best game was our last game against in Sugar Bowl. We all were saying, where were these plays the last 2 years?
In his defense, we had a horrible DC that was giving up way too many points and this past year Bryce Young was injured.
Bama fans feel this really is the right move for both sides, BOB goes back where he was so successful and we hopefully can land a college OC.

This is an interesting point. Even at Penn State, he ran a pro style offense.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

But it’s not true either. 11 and 81 are running slants. 38 is the flat. Each of those routes are available at 4 yards if they are open.

My recollection here is that none of the receivers were looking back for the ball early.

 

[Grogan14]

I think Kraft and BB were forced into BoB by public sentiment, plain and simple. There was no choice and they had to move quickly to get the stench of 2022 out of the fans nose.
Truth is OC is only as good as his players can execute.
If they can dramatically improve the OL with a LT and RT in the draft, snag a reliable 3rd down receiving back and upgrade the receiver position, the offense will take a step forward.
It's not like BoB is air Coryell or some incredible innovator. He likes to use the run as a foundation and then play action pass off a credible running threat. Nothing visionary or creatively inspiring.
BoB will be as successful as a rebuilt OL will take him.

 

[Ring 6]

My recollection here is that none of the receivers were looking back for the ball early.

I think your recollection is wrong

 

[SVN]

saw this today

 

[JMC00]

 

[DaBruinz]

Yeah but BOB was the only candidate to actually call offense. Everyone else was Bills best buddies.

I'm more confident with O'Brien than a WR coach or a guy who coaches OL in college. He also coached at Alabama macs old offense...

Have to wonder if they throw some of what Mac did well at Alabama in there.

This is a extremely lazy take.
Claiming that Jefferson and McCardell are "Bill's best buddies" is ridiculous when you consider the fact that the Patriots have never talked to Jefferson previously when he was available. The Patriots have never talked to McCardell previously when HE was available.

 

[Guts]

After. They stripped Penn State of 40 scholarships right before O’Brien took the job. He basically had a team of non-scholarship athletes.

That's pretty impressive how well he did there then. He wasn't terrible as a HC either with Houston multiple playoff apperances although he was a terrible GM.

Luckily his job is to be the OC and has worked with Mac before. No excuses I expect the Pats to be top 10 team in offensive PPG

 

[Lansdowne]

BoB has never been a huge favorite of mine…..His overall management and record in Houston was not great ….He was a decent OC here years ago but not earth shattering….I was initially NOT psyched at the thought of BoB returning…..BUT ……Mac got screwed this year with Fatt Matt and Judge handling OC duties….he did Well with McD AND he had BoB as his OC at Alabama…..and BoB understands that offensive scheme better and CAN CONNECT to Mac better than any of the other candidates……SO…..given that I doubt they are ready to give up on Mac….Hiring BoB is the MOST LOGICAL choice right now!

FYI Mac never played for BoB at Alabama. BoB came in as Mac was preparing for the Draft. Sark was Mac’s OC, then Sark took the Texas HC job and BoB was hired to take his place. BoB was the OC for Bryce Young.

 

[venecol]

I think in the end, it comes down to who your players are, what can they do best, who your quarterback is, what can he do best and what’s best for the team.

 

[DaBruinz]

Good lord, please no more Trent Brown at LT.... Not sure I even want him at RT.

If Pats can sign a top WR and one great Tackle I really don't think we are far off in terms of offense with improved playcalling. Assuming they resign Meyers as well..

The Pats don't need to "sign a Top WR". Not that there are any who are FA currently. As mentioned by others, the OT situation is also slim pickings.
The Pats need to draft an OT in the 1st round. The depth just isn't there for them to look at a starting OT outside the first round, imho.
They may be able to trade back to get the guy they want at OT. But they need someone who isn't 24/25.

There are actually some good vet CBs that could be added. People like Marcus Peters or Patrick Peterson. James Bradberry as well.

Saying that the Pats can "sign a top WR" in free agency when there literally isn't a TOP WR available at the time speaks volumes about the lack of basic research that goes on.

 

[DaBruinz]

FYI Mac never played for BoB at Alabama. BoB came in as Mac was preparing for the Draft. Sark was Mac’s OC, then Sark took the Texas HC job and BoB was hired to take his place. BoB was the OC for Bryce Young.

And Mac taught BoB the Alabama offense as they got together while Mac was prepping for the draft.

 

[DaBruinz]

OK. Let me get this out of the way.
I was wrong. I really didn't think BoB had a chance to get hired with Mayo being the AHC.

Now, that being said. I can also admit I missed some factors.

-It's going to be at least 2years before Mayo becomes the HC.
-There are likely still more hires to come on the OC side. QB Coach. O-Line Coach. Possibly TE Coach.
-BoB stayed 2 years at Penn State and 2 years at Alabama. If he's agreed to that, even verbally, that will help right the ship.

If Klemm is hired as the Asst. O-Line coach with Yates, that would also help things. Klemm wasn't on my radar, but looking into what he's done, he's got a good resume going. And Scar liked what he saw. That's pretty good to hear.

If the Pats hire Jefferson or McCardell as the WR coach and Asst OC, then I could see one of them stepping in to the OC spot in two years with Mayo as the HC. This would mean, though, that Troy Brown is being moved to a different position. Maybe Asst Special Teams coach where he can continue to coach returners and learn other aspects.

 

[PatsFan2]

The Pats don't need to "sign a Top WR". Not that there are any who are FA currently. As mentioned by others, the OT situation is also slim pickings.
The Pats need to draft an OT in the 1st round. The depth just isn't there for them to look at a starting OT outside the first round, imho.
They may be able to trade back to get the guy they want at OT. But they need someone who isn't 24/25.

There are actually some good vet CBs that could be added. People like Marcus Peters or Patrick Peterson. James Bradberry as well.

Saying that the Pats can "sign a top WR" in free agency when there literally isn't a TOP WR available at the time speaks volumes about the lack of basic research that goes on.

Right they can Draft one especially with BoB now in the fold. Because he's been on the College circuit I hope he has huge say regarding which WR we Draft. Same goes for a potential TE let Bob pick his guys. Bob is going to do well here I am excited with anticipation.

 

[1960Pats]

I get your point but wasn’t BoB the first one to introduce this concept of a Heavy 2 TE scheme to an offense!?

I don't know.

 

[Nunchucks]

How is the offense fixed? The team is miles behind Cincy, KC, Buffalo, SF, and Philly in terms of talent. And I assume BOB is going to be the QB coach as well.

Patriots came pretty close to beating Cincinnati and the Bills this year.

 

[RobertWeathers]

It seems like offenses are having a harder time scoring from close these days. Don't ask me why.

It also looks like defenders are taking down runners a different way. When runners try to go low now the defenders are grabbing them by the shoulders and dropping them quickly. It looks like a technique that I don't remember seeing before and it's been pretty effective.

Yep. Teams are playing with fast LBs and in dime most of the time now. Speed v Speed

 

[RobertWeathers]

Patriots came pretty close to beating Cincinnati and the Bills this year.

When were we close to beating the Bills?

Let's be real, Cinci went into nap-mode vs us.

At this point in no way are we at their level.

 

[PatsfanTN]

As a Bama fan I can tell you that that our fans that were upset with him were because deep down he is a NFL OC.
Calling plays in college and the NFL is just different. BOB is a really good NFL OC, but not a good college OC.
Just 1 example, in college you rarely throw inside the 5 yard line, BOB called it all the time and we turned it over numerous times. He even did it with a red shirt freshman playing when Bryce was out.
Honestly he was also very predictable and lacked creative plays. His best game was our last game against in Sugar Bowl. We all were saying, where were these plays the last 2 years?
In his defense, we had a horrible DC that was giving up way too many points and this past year Bryce Young was injured.
Bama fans feel this really is the right move for both sides, BOB goes back where he was so successful and we hopefully can land a college OC.

Not even gonna lie, beating you all this year was the most fun us UT fans have had in years.

 

[archstanton543]

When were we close to beating the Bills?

Well closer than the last three times we played them. And that's with two KO returns for TD's.