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Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by ChrisR2223, Feb 9, 2018.

  1. ChrisR2223

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    maust1013 In the Starting Line-Up

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    Uh-huh. The team that traded Jones & Collins because of their pending price tags is going to trade for a player getting paid more than Collins...alrighty then...
     
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    Isn't he injury prone? I'd prefer Carlos Dunlap. Cheaper, although only has 1 year left on his contract (as opposed to 2 for Quinn).
     
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  5. ChrisR2223

    ChrisR2223 Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    We need to do something to get to the Quarterback.
    Remember when BB perceives a weakness he will overcompensate like a 50 year old impotent man with a garage of porsches.
     
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    maineman209 Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    The Pats currently have $13.1M in cap space. They will have 6 draft picks after the comp picks are settled.

    Quinn would hit the Patriots cap for about $11M this year and nearly $13M in 2019.

    In 2013 & 2014, Quinn was a one-man terror campaign as a DE, amassing 103 total tackles (a lot for a DE), 29.5 sacks, 7 PD and 12 FF, with 2 FR - one returned for a TD - over the course of 32 games under DCs Tim Walton, and then Gregg Williams (through 2016) in a 4-3 defense. He averaged about 75% of the D-snaps. Those teams both finished in the middle of the league in terms of both points and yards allowed.

    Prior to 2015, Quinn had missed only one game in his four-year career, and that in his rookie season.

    In 2015, Quinn missed 8 games, first with a knee injury, and then with a back injury that sent him to IR.

    In 2016, Quinn missed 7 games, first with a shoulder injury, and then with a concussion that ultimately sent him to IR.

    In 2017, played in 15 games/14 starts. He had 33 total tackles, 8.5 sacks, 0 PD and 2 FF, playing 59% of the D-snaps as an "LB" in new DC Wade Phillips' 3-4.

    Quinn turns 28 in May.
     
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    If they had the cap space they would .

    See Gilmore.
     
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    LA would ask for Donald and......

    As they should
     
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    We need great players playing on cheap rookie contracts, thats what were missing.
     
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    Quinn's more likely to be a cap casualty than traded to the Patriots at that price. What's most likely is a restructuring with the Rams since he's still productive.
     
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    I don't see BB spending all the resources needed to trade for, and pay, Quinn, under current circumstances.
     
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    Dunlap turns 28 on February 28th. His cap hit for the Pats would be $7.3M for 2018.

    Dunlap has missed zero games and only one start in the past five seasons (that one in 2013) an averaged about 80% of the Bengals' D-snaps/season over that time.

    In the past five seasons, he's averaged just under 9 sacks and 56 total tackles in the Bengals 4-3 - the first year of that stretch (2013) under DC Mike Zimmer, and the last 4 under DC Paul Guenther.

    For the past two seasons, Dunlap's tackle totals were below his 5-year average. However, he also posted 22 of his 42 career PDs over the past two seasons, 15 of those in 2016.
     
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    So far, he appears to have adapted pretty well to playing more of an OLB/DE-type role in Wade Phillips' 3-4.
     
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    "Still, the 27-year-old defensive is worth the risk and investment if he can help turn around a disappointing Patriots defense. "

    Pats Defense ranked right up there...disappointing for the SB probably due to coaching decision on Defense ( Butler).....The heart of the D was missing in Hightower plus others on IR they should still have a good base to work from in 2018.. I take Bleacher Report analysis with a grain of salt ...:cool:
     
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    Jlaff In the Starting Line-Up

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    It's always funny when writers impose the free agency mindset of the other 31 teams on the Patriots.
     
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    Are you all forgetting that we have rivers and langi coming back from it? Also, we only have 5 draft picks for this draft.
     
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    Agree with this 100%
     
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    And VV.
     
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    Our IR's could improve half the teams in the NFL !!
     
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    Not like we didn’t splurge out for Rosie Colvin or Adalius Thomas or anything... :cool:
     

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