This is rich considering it's coming from someone who has been living with hurt, little feelings for months about a passing comment some guy made on a message board. Now you're rehashing them like some scorned woman coming back into the fold after her husband beat her (which I guess is the equivalent of what's going on here). I'm going to go ahead and take a wild guess that this is all coming from the inferiority complex comment I made a couple of weeks ago. Hit close to home, huh?
Oh cool. Go find the post and link it so we can all see it. This exact one where I said that it didn't matter what Belichick did. I'll wait.
I asked you to justify why you thought Butler is a CB2 and your response was to cite something the Pats have done since Belichick has been the head coach and did with Revis. Using this outstanding logic, Sherman is also not a CB1 because he doesn't trail the WR1 through huge chunks of the game, either. Try again. And try harder because honestly this is one of the easiest ass whippings I've ever delivered.
WR1's that Butler has been tasked with covering since 2015:
Antonio Brown x3
Allen Robinson
T.Y. Hilton
Brandon Marshall
Jarvis Landry
OBJ
D. Thomas/E. Sanders
Hopkins
Larry Fitzgerald
A.J. Green
He shadowed these guys sometimes with a safety shading over the top and sometimes in a Cover-1 look where there was no safety help. Saying that he had it is weak as hell, too, since even the best corners in the league get safety help. Since Revis has been used as an example, even in his absolute prime with the Jets in 2009-2011, he was given consistent safety help up top against some of the best wideouts in the game. But that's not what I asked either. I asked you to be formation specific. To be honest, I didn't expect an answer on that one since I don't think you'd recognize different formations that the typical NFL defense uses if you fell over it.
You honestly can't put together the logic that if he's an excellent CB2 here then he's CB2 regardless? You realize calling him a CB2 now only because Gilmore, one of the few corners in the league that's better than Butler, is here now pretty much defeats whatever point you're trying to make that Butler isn't a CB1 going forward, correct? Because, in that case, Butler will be a CB1 on just about every other team including this one (as he has) had it not been for Gilmore. Finally, the Patriots must not agree with you since they're obviously not going to trade a guy that's been a pain in the ass in negotiations and isn't showing up for the offseason program for anything less than a first. Yeah... they definitely feel that he's a CB2 as well. That's the ticket.
No idea, what inferiority complex comment you're referring to, little guy. Your posts are usually "must skip" for me. The reason your comments about the Falcons stood out are obvious - you were so over the top and adamant that the NE defense would struggle. There's no reason to have hurt feelings about that. You're the one who ended up looking like an enormous idiot, since you were wrong as usual, while only hours after the AFCCG, I had already identified the weak spots on Atlanta's OL and said the Patriots should target Chester and Mack. This is, of course, exactly what the Patriots did, and exploiting those holes and creating pressure in key moments is what allowed them to win the game.
You should probably actually read what I wrote. I never said, or even implied, that Butler has never covered #1 WRs without help, nor did I say anything about CB1s never receiving safety help - indeed, I outlined the fact that he did, and that he was burned badly on several occasions, due to his lack of size and/or speed. I said that Bill's philosophy of matching up different CBs with different WRs has limited the ability of opposing offenses to exploit Butler's weaknesses.
Best part of your post is acting as if recognizing coverages is rocket science. It speaks volumes about your level of intelligence and education that you'd think it's the epitome of intellect. Even more hilarious is the fact that the Patriots played a considerable amount of Cover 2 this past season, with one of the top safeties in the entire league, and a generally strong safety unit as a whole, splitting the deep passing zones in half. In fact, some of their best performances of the season came when they were primarily in Cover 2, giving the corners plenty of safety help. The AFCCG that you brought up earlier was a perfect example. The Patriots were in Cover 2 for most of it, especially after Bell went down, and paying extra attention to Brown. Brown was often double, or even triple teamed, and especially as the Steelers got closer to the end zone. It certainly wasn't Butler out there covering Brown by himself as you absurdly tried to imply.
Regarding your last paragraph, you once again display incredibly atrocious reading comprehension. I never said he wouldn't be a CB1 on other teams.
I actually said the exact opposite. My whole premise was based on the fact that he would be a CB1 on other teams, and that he would be used as a traditional CB1 - i.e. he'd be covering the #1 WRs without safety help more frequently, thus exposing his weaknesses, and resulting in him performing far more poorly than in NE, because he wouldn't be utilized correctly. Really not that difficult to comprehend - even for someone like you.
This conversation would have went a lot better had the ghetto school you attended prepared you better with regards to reading comprehension and critical thinking. I think you should be on a 1 year prove it deal. You need to go a full year without being entirely wrong about literally everything you post, as you were last season, before I can take anything you say seriously. This will go in effect at the start of the regular season. You've got plenty of time to practice until then, kiddo.
