Belichick signed to long term contract

[Rob0729]

The league hasnt changed any more than normal and belichick has a long history of being ahead of the curve. He has totally revamped the defense. The offense has OL and QB problems not idea problems.

Gibbs coached the team to its only playoff win in the last 23 years. He had them heading in the right direction and made the playoffs in his final season. Had he stayed they would have continued to improve. They still haven’t improved 19 years later. That is what you get when you refuse to understand the best people have down periods in competitive sports with an even playing field that actually punished success. Bail on the right guy because of the short term and the long term suffers.

Gibbs didn’t have them moving in the right direction. His second year they were 10-6. His third years, they were 6-10. Their fourth year they were 9-7. They were stuck in mediocrity.


And the league has changed to where offense talent is key to winning and. Belichick doesn’t value offensive talent.

 

[Boomer B]

Whatever you think the reason is the team is where it is and the best way to get back on top is to keep the greatest football team architect that has ever lived be in charge.

So things don’t change? Landry, Noll, etc…were as good at the end as they were in their prime? Bill’s not 50, he’s turning 72. Bill was great. He’s not great anymore. He’s not drafting well and he’s whiffed in FA and made mind boggling decisions with his staff. It’s time. Get someone young and in tune with todays game. Put up the statue for Bill and give him the red jacket.

You act like things are just linear and nothing has changed. It has, you just need to open your eyes.

 

[StrawHatPatriot]

Honestly, if Bill can just get his GM control taken away that alone would make this more palatable. I dont think that alone would win us a super bowl, but it would make the team competitive because i still know he can coach up the defense.

 

[Ring 6]

Gibbs didn’t have them moving in the right direction. His second year they were 10-6. His third years, they were 6-10. Their fourth year they were 9-7. They were stuck in mediocrity.


And the league has changed to where offense talent is key to winning and. Belichick doesn’t value offensive talent.

He made the playoffs 2 of his last 3 seasons. That is the right direction.

Your opinions are comical.

 

[Rob0729]

He made the playoffs 2 of his last 3 seasons. That is the right direction.

Your opinions are comical.

He got in at 9-7. That is a fluke because the NFC sucked that year. That isn’t the right direction.

 

[Ring 6]

So things don’t change? Landry, Noll, etc…were as good at the end as they were in their prime? Bill’s not 50, he’s turning 72. Bill was great. He’s not great anymore. He’s not drafting well and he’s whiffed in FA and made mind boggling decisions with his staff. It’s time. Get someone young and in tune with todays game. Put up the statue for Bill and give him the red jacket.

You act like things are just linear and nothing has changed. It has, you just need to open your eyes.

Noll had a 7 year run in an uncapped era where he assembled probably the best defense ever. As the roster changed he settled in as the sand guy for the rest of his career. He didn’t drop off at the end he had a 7 year run. Belichicks run was 20 years.
Landry wasn’t any different the team deteriorated.

 

[StrawHatPatriot]

Looking at how today’s game is going I can’t wait for the torrent of insufferable bullsh.it to praise Belichick if this team can manage to crawl to 6-11. “Only Belichick could coach this roster to 6 wins!” Stuff like that.

Thank you.

Honestly they even lose a competitive close game (24-23) they chalk it up as a sign things are changing and say that we shouldn't complain becuase "we almost beat the Bills, Dolphins, Eagles "

 

[Ring 6]

He got in at 9-7. That is a fluke because the NFC sucked that year. That isn’t the right direction.

Let me get this straight.
You coach a team for 12 years win 3 SBs and make the playoffs 8 times and win16 playoff games.
You leave and in the next 12 years they make the playoffs 1 time and win 1 playoff game.
You come back taking over a 5-11 team. In 4 years you make the playoffs twice (more than the combined 12 years without you) and win a playoff game. At the end of the 4 years you have progressed for 5-11 to a playoff team.

But Joe Gibbs is the problem and the game has passed him by. Seriously?

But hey let’s test your theory.
Hobbs was the problem he is gone, so what happened?

They go backwards to 8-8 then 4-12 and over the next 15 years make the playoffs 3 times and win zero playoff games. Thank god they got rid of that problem.

So let’s recap. Since Gibbs first tenure
Gibbs. 4 years 2 playoff berths 1 playoff win
Everyone else 27 years 4 playoff berths 1 playoff win

If your answer is Joe Gibbs was the problem you are either lying or obtuse.

 

[Ring 6]

He got in at 9-7. That is a fluke because the NFC sucked that year. That isn’t the right direction.

When your franchise has a 31 year period where you coach 4 of them and you make the playoffs 2 of the last 3 and everyone else made them 4 of 27 you are going in the right direction.

 

[carmelo15]

How could anyone be anti-the guy who build a 6 ring dynasty?

Tom Brady ain’t walking through that door

 

[XLIX]

Maybe (and that's a big fat maybe) some other team will take on the contract with the Krafts perhaps paying a portion for some time. I doubt a team would take on the whole thing if it is as "lucrative" as it is asserted to be. I doubt we;d get lucky enough to get somebody to take on the whole thing, but then I always find it hard to think like a billionaire.

It doesn't work that way. If Belichick comes to terms with a new team, it is an all-new contract. He isn't a player where the old contract goes with him.

 

[XLIX]

I think it was leaked from Bill's side to say "I'm not going anywhere. I'm going to keep doing my job."

Kraft certainly can still fire him but it would be a huge financial hit. He could try to trade his rights, but if Bill doesn't want to leave, it becomes difficult.

It is impossible to "trade" a coach who doesn't want to leave. You can fire him, but you can't trade him.

 

[Ring 6]

Tom Brady ain’t walking through that door

All the more reason you need the GOAT in charge

 

[Huckleberry1]

Some posters here were furious the Bears moved ahead of the Pats for Justin Fields.

Fields sucks royally…

You miss, you pick again. You have to break some eggs to make an omelette.

Agree completely.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Looking at how today’s game is going I can’t wait for the torrent of insufferable bullsh.it to praise Belichick if this team can manage to crawl to 6-11. “Only Belichick could coach this roster to 6 wins!” Stuff like that.

What an incredible win. Mac Jones was exactly what we all believed he was, a young Elway. Belichick and his staff completely out coached and outclassed McDermott’s rag tag coaching staff. And don’t get me going about the game plan, it was, it was, it was magical. It was like Bill did a Vulcan Mind Meld with McDermott and his completelydominated staff, it was mind reading, and it led to perfect execution by the players. All Pro performances all the way around. This team is really going places, I’m guessing 2 Lombardi’s out of the next 3 Super Bowls. Thank God Kraft locked Bill up before he stunned the sports world with this massive win. If he was smart he gave Belichick a literal blank check that rolls over every season Bill wants it to.

 

[FCB02062]

He got in at 9-7. That is a fluke because the NFC sucked that year. That isn’t the right direction.

I seem to remember 9-7 playoff team that did pretty well in 2011....

 

[VectorPrime]

Is this the Joe Gibbs thread?

 

[Froob]

Quite the contrary, we are retaining the greatest franchise architect in the history of the league to get us back on top.

Any other coach is fired after these last four years.

 

[upstater1]

Any other coach is fired after these last four years.

I never understand the logic.

If a coach other than Belichick won Super Bowls then completely overhauled the team so that NONE of the old players were left, they just might indeed stick around after these 4 years.

We'll see what happens with McVay. He won a Super Bowl, has been 8-16 since, doesn't look like a playoff team this year, so you're saying McVay will be fired next year if the team has a .500 record or lower?

Look at John Harbaugh at Baltimore: 1 postseason victory in the last 10 yrs. No one says he's on the hotseat.

Mike Tomlin, 4 straight playoff losses, will likely miss the playoffs again this year. Not on the hotseat.

Pete Carroll has only won 1 out of his last 6 playoff games.

So, let's say I agree that Belichick deserves to be fired. The statement that any other coach would already be fired doesn't hold up when you look at all these other coaches, never mind the fact that Belichick is better than all of them.

 

[Ring 6]

Any other coach is fired after these last four years.

So your argument is that the greatest team architect in the history of the sport would be assessed differently if he wasn’t the greatest ever?

Kyle Shanahan did go 29-35 in his first 4 years making the playoffs only once, so maybe not any other one.