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Touchdown, he's down and the ball is over the goal line.
He was a receiver and not a runner.Touchdown, he's down and the ball is over the goal line.
Mike Tirico called it correctly on the broadcast. Go watch a replay of his commentary if you care to. He said that HH had control of the ball and it was knocked loose by the defender (I think his helmet) as he was lifting the ball off the ground. That's what I see happened. That makes it a TD. It was a TD when HH made the move to try and place the ball over the goal line and broke the plane of the goal as he was falling and rotating. Even if the ball touched the ground AND moved, it is still a TD according to the new rule implemented in 2018, although maybe not by the old rule. When Tony Dungy said that when HH MADE THE MOVE to try and place the ball over the goal, he proved that HH had made a "football move" after catching the ball, which satisfies rule requirements for a TD. Anyone even mentioning "securing the ground" is not using the current rule requirements in their argument.You can already see Henry losing his grip of the ball with his left hand in the above photo. With the ball apparently touching the ground.
Where people get confused is that not all NFL crews call this play the exact same way.You can already see Henry losing his grip of the ball with his left hand in the above photo. With the ball apparently touching the ground.
The Pats screwed themselves.Minnesota Screwjob™
NBC Sports rules analyst and former NFL referee Terry McAulay unequivocally said it was an incompletion on the live broadcast.Mike Tirico called it correctly on the broadcast. Go watch a replay of his commentary if you care to. He said that HH had control of the ball and it was knocked loose by the defender (I think his helmet) as he was lifting the ball off the ground. That's what I see happened. That makes it a TD. It was a TD when HH made the move to try and place the ball over the goal line and broke the plane of the goal as he was falling and rotating. Even if the ball touched the ground AND moved, it is still a TD according to the new rule implemented in 2018, although maybe not by the old rule. When Tony Dungy said that when HH MADE THE MOVE to try and place the ball over the goal, he proved that HH had made a "football move" after catching the ball, which satisfies rule requirements for a TD. Anyone even mentioning "securing the ground" is not using the current rule requirements in their argument.
FIFYThe Pats screwed themselves.
If it comes down to calls on the field then you did not do enough to win.
He also used the description secure the ground, which I think shows he is using old rules to analyze present plays. He is also probably covering for his buddies, and hoping for a better gig. He is also wrong.NBC Sports rules analyst and former NFL referee Terry McAulay unequivocally said it was an incompletion on the live broadcast.
And he was wrong. The rule was changed as has been pointed out ad nauseum in the thread.NBC Sports rules analyst and former NFL referee Terry McAulay unequivocally said it was an incompletion on the live broadcast.
But the ball can touch the ground and it is still a catch.McAulay's main point was the ball hit the ground, which is being disputed by those who think it was a catch.
The ball did touch the ground:
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But I question whether the ball actually bobbled. Yes, the ball does move, but I don't see him actually losing possession of the ball. It spins, but Henry never actually loses control of the ball.
I have seen that same scenario called this season exactly like Henrys play.And he was wrong. The rule was changed as has been pointed out ad nauseum in the thread.
The ball did touch the ground:
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But I question whether the ball actually bobbled. Yes, the ball does move, but I don't see him actually losing possession of the ball. It spins, but Henry never actually loses control of the ball.
Henry's left hand comes completely off the ball. With that you have to conclude he maintained possession of the ball throughout with his right hand. I don't see that. The ball is moving. If the ball touched the ground, which was McAulay's argument, then it wasn't a catch because Henry didn't maintain possession of the ball. This is also what the NFL is officially stating in defense of the call.But the ball can touch the ground and it is still a catch.