Are We Really Ready At Defensive Back?

[TheRainMaker]

They have question marks for both outside CB spots. Jonathan Jones needs to stick at Nickel. Keep Mapu away from the S room and Marcus Jones from CB.

 

[signbabybrady]

They have question marks for both outside CB spots. Jonathan Jones needs to stick at Nickel. Keep Mapu away from the S room and Marcus Jones from CB.

Is there somewhere that shows how many snaps Jonathan has played outside compared to nickel in his career?

 

[State]

We have a big time vacancy at CB 2.

 

[Wozzy]

We have a big time vacancy at CB 2.

Marco Wilson has 37 career starts and played well on a terrible defense.

 

[captain stone]

Marco Wilson has 37 career starts and played well on a terrible defense.

And he'll certainly be in the mix for the spot opposite Gonzo... But he's no sure thing either.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Is there somewhere that shows how many snaps Jonathan has played outside compared to nickel in his career?

I'm sure there's stats somewhere.

 

[Wozzy]

And he'll certainly be in the mix for the spot opposite Gonzo... But he's no sure thing either.

Barring injury or the emergence of some other player I don't see how.

 

[rkarp1]

Barring injury or the emergence of some other player I don't see how.

there is a scenario where Gonzo and Jon Jones play outside and Marcus inside as the teams top 3 CB's.
by all reports, both Jones seem to play their best inside.
hopefully Wilson can play significant snaps at a high level.
I do not yet have confidence in any of the other CB's.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I can't get over how everyone is just writing off one of the most electric players we've had because he's a few inches shorter than everyone else. Marcus scored TDs on defense, offense, and STs his rookie year and last year in training camp he was looking like he was going to be one of our top 3 corners.

I mean Pop looks like he'll probably be our best WR and he's like 5'8 170 pounds and he doesn't get ignored.

What am I missing that I seem to be the only one hyped up about Marcus?

I think you all are sleeping on him.

Marcus Jones is only playing on defense this season, I think he will be on the field a great deal this season.

 

[Huckleberry1]

One of my pet-peeves with a position that was available in FA that they could have addressed but didn't, was a true FS. There were two young (young enough to be a part of the next contender) and talented FS's that wouldn't have broken the bank (especially considering that their contacts would have seemed like a bargain in a couple of years, as is usually the case). Perhaps one of the young corners with sufficient size and such can be successfully converted to the next solid FS (and that might very well be the plan), but until that happens, I'm leery of the FS position on the defense.

There are still a number of quality free safeties available, I just think they are holding out for more $$$ because most were getting big $$$ last year.

 

[Real fan 02]

Marco Wilson has 37 career starts and played well on a terrible defense.

I'm interested to see what Wilson brings in camp.. I admit don't know much about him other than what you say.

 

[Real fan 02]

There are still a number of quality free safeties available, I just think they are holding out for more $$$ because most were getting big $$$ last year.

Agreed. Plus we Know guys don't like training camp.. can bet you guys are watching and waiting for injuries and when camp is nearly over to try to sign.

 

[Real fan 02]

there is a scenario where Gonzo and Jon Jones play outside and Marcus inside as the teams top 3 CB's.
by all reports, both Jones seem to play their best inside.
hopefully Wilson can play significant snaps at a high level.
I do not yet have confidence in any of the other CB's.

Alex Austin says what about me ?

 

[signbabybrady]

Marcus Jones is only playing on defense this season, I think he will be on the field a great deal this season.

He's probably our KRer and PRer too. But yes I think the WR thing was a gimmick that made sense his rookie year due to many factors that likely won't come up again.

 

[rkarp1]

Alex Austin says what about me ?

need to see more from him. imo, he could play a lot or get cut. I certainly do not believe he is a roster lock

 

[Wozzy]

I'm interested to see what Wilson brings in camp.. I admit don't know much about him other than what you say.

People including PFF told us Stephon Gilmore was a bad player because he played on a terrible Buffalo team and defense. The reality is he was an elite CB stuck on a defense with little to no pass rush and unfortunately his position is hard to do without the help upfront. It’s ultimately a team sport and the guys tasked with defending out on an island tend to look bad in bad situations. He’s not Gilmore necessarily but he’s much better than the terrible defense he came from in Arizona.

 

[Real fan 02]

People including PFF told us Stephon Gilmore was a bad player because he played on a terrible Buffalo team and defense. The reality is he was an elite CB stuck on a defense with little to no pass rush and unfortunately his position is hard to do without the help upfront. It’s ultimately a team sport and the guys tasked with defending out on an island tend to look bad in bad situations. He’s not Gilmore necessarily but he’s much better than the terrible defense he came from in Arizona.

Got it. We'll I agree. As the rush and coverage fo hand in hand. But I'm all for it. Competition for that 2nd guy on the outside is going to be great for all the young guys. Bolden also figures to be a factor here.. he has that Antonio cromartie type frame and length. Gonzo will likely take away one side of the field so the guy on the other side will see all the action.

 

[Real fan 02]

need to see more from him. imo, he could play a lot or get cut. I certainly do not believe he is a roster lock

In reality none of the younger guys are neccessary locks.. they all have something to prove.. Wade, Bolden, Wilson, Austin, dial.. will all have to prove themselves again. I like this group. I feel like it will be great competition and we have nice depth.

 

[Real fan 02]

He's probably our KRer and PRer too. But yes I think the WR thing was a gimmick that made sense his rookie year due to many factors that likely won't come up again.

Yes. I remember that toss sweep against Buffalo... MJs speed was sorely missed. However he was an all pro STs ace and I'd expect him to return to that. He also is likely our starting slot DB if J. Jones starts opposite Gonzo.

 

[n1997y]

He's probably our KRer and PRer too. But yes I think the WR thing was a gimmick that made sense his rookie year due to many factors that likely won't come up again.

Don’t sleep on Isaiah Bolden as returner.