AP misinterprets Brady quote [merged]

[Jackson 2]

Tell you what is really a pathetic indictment of the Boston sports media - Bob Halloran who gets to work on Patriots All Access just because he is a weekend sports anchor at WCVB (that has to be the only reason...) just delivered the same idiotic report on the Saturday 11PM news.

I'm continually amazed that guys who are so disinterested or incompetent they can't handle filling a 3 minute segment on the evening sports without just rehashing stuff they picked up second hand...get paid to work in this market.

The more I hear and see of Halloran convinces me that he's a fool. He's lazy. I've heard him on WEEI make factual error after factual error and when it's pointed out to him, he changes the subject. In addition, his commentary and tone carry a clear anti-Belichick slant. BB must have dissed him (at least that's his perspective) at a presser, or something...

 

[castlelong1]

Re: espn claims brady is still hurt

Here it is: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3431327

Geniuses hard at work over at ESPN.

How much does anyone want to bet that when Brady starts they claim it was part of a Belichick disinformation campaign. ESPN

 

[castlelong1]

Re: espn claims brady is still hurt

In fairness of ESPN, they are just picking up the AP story (which obviously was poorly put together and did not understand the context of Brady's comment).

Um, the Reiss report is out there. Every board with Patriot fans is laughing at the AP mistake. Heck cbssportsline might be better.

 

[castlelong1]

Re: ridiculous spin on cbssportsline story?

The national sports media has become a joke...plain & simple.

I'll admit it bothers me deeply because I know I can no longer believe anything I read. Especially if it's about the Patriots.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/25024521/
NBC sports got it right. I have not checked Fox sports yet. Apparantly the egg is only on ESPN's face. (Yes, I'm smiling.)

 

[castlelong1]

Re: espn claims brady is still hurt

Look, I'm not fan of ESPN either, I think when it comes to their own commentary & programs they are biased against the Pats for ratings purposes, but to expect them to vet every article that they post from the AP is silly. The point of a wire service like the AP or Reuters is that they are (usually) a trusted journalistic source and you can confidently run their stories. That wasn't the case here, but it usually is.

Why did Yahoo sports get it right?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...ubYF?slug=ap-patriots-brady&prov=ap&type=lgns

 

[castlelong1]

Tell you what is really a pathetic indictment of the Boston sports media - Bob Halloran who gets to work on Patriots All Access just because he is a weekend sports anchor at WCVB (that has to be the only reason...) just delivered the same idiotic report on the Saturday 11PM news.

I'm continually amazed that guys who are so disinterested or incompetent they can't handle filling a 3 minute segment on the evening sports without just rehashing stuff they picked up second hand...get paid to work in this market.

Big fish in a little pond vs. Big Fish in a big pond. Need a reason Bob Halloran is local not National.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Halloran isn't even a small fish in a big pond, he's kinda like algae along for the ride. He is a strange dude. Sometimes he seems really angry at his subjects (athletes and teams) and other times he's the lone voice of reason. At the SB he was the first and only guy to go on record saying if Tomase used a single source absent seeing hard evidence and he broke every tenant of their profession (he started in print) and he was done in Boston. Put him on with Felger, as happens regularly these days, and he seems almost hell bent to make mountains out of any molehill Felgie decides to climb onto.

It's sad, and it's not like you don't see it in lots of professions, but these guys really sour over time as it all becomes about getting ahead. I remember meeting Mike Giardi from NECN several years ago, before he was on camera, and he was at Fenway producing a bunch of interviews hours before a Pedro/Cologne duel. He was very friendly and we were talking back and forth about how neat is it to be doing what he's doing - and he said I'd do this for free (but don't tell the boss I said so). They start out as us but often end up either loudmouth buffoons performing for ratings or bitter men with subconscious axes to grind.

The thing about this incident is funny as it is, this will be one more reason for the suits with the egg on their faces to resent Brady and Belichick, for inadvertently making them look bad... LOL The media needs to look in the mirror to figure out what is wrong with their relationships with players, coaches, teams. It's the competitive nature of their own profession than makes them obnoxious, backstabbing aholes to deal with that is at the root of most of their problems...Belichick and Brady never have issues with broadcast crews because for some reason those guys still respect the process and exhibit discretion which affords them better and more honest access. Too many mediots sell out to break a story or create a buzz with an over the top commentary.

Then they cry when they get iced out...:violent:

 

[scout]

I read the report in today's Chicago Tribune. Fortunately, I new the facts, thanks to Patsfans members. In the last few weeks we have seen some pretty shoddy reporting, either something taken out of context to make a completely different story (Brady) or a wild stretch based on speculation with a yellow journalism thrown in ( Wiggins /childhood friend = another Patriot involved in drug scandal). I'm wondering if this is a new epidemic or has it been around a long time and we were not the focus as nobody cared about the Patriots. I'm also wondering, with the advent of blogs and the Internet, are sports writers/newspapers feeling the heat to stay above water.

 

[tombonneau]

Re: espn claims brady is still hurt

Why did Yahoo sports get it right?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...ubYF?slug=ap-patriots-brady&prov=ap&type=lgns

Yahoo! didn't get it right; the AP corrected their story and Yahoo! ran it. That story wast posted 13 hours ago. The original ESPN.com story was from early yesterday. My guess is that EPSN.com is now also running that same AP story.

My whole point is everyone needs to stop seeing 100% red when it comes to ESPN and maybe try to be rational every once in awhile (you know, the very same thing those people claim ESPN should be ).

 

[Dragda]

Re: ridiculous spin on cbssportsline story?

nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to how unprofessinal and incompetent the media is in this country.

Agreed. And it isn't just sports. The media may have all the facts (ie police report, eye witness accounts, etc) but still manage to misreport the facts. They cannot be trusted. They report fiction just like those funky looking newspapers next to the check stand that old ladies buy. You know, the ones that say some famous actress was impregnated by aliens. Not much difference. Lies are lies.

 

[patriotspride]

Re: espn claims brady is still hurt

Please don't tell me you're a fan of the "stars & strips" Sean Hannity

If you are, repond at;

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?p=909831#post909831

thats a opinion show not a news show. there is a difference. and on that show there is Alan comes to give the left view point. you get opinions from the left and the right unlike cnn and msnbc . on those stations its usually three left leaning guest opposed to one right and most of the time its just lefties and no righties at all.

 

[jmt57]

Interesting to note how the various media have handled this.
CBS Sportsline has still made no changes, they still have the story as "Brady says he still is slowed by ankle injury"
ESPN changed the headline and story with no reference to their original headline and story; it now reads "Pats QB Brady jokes that he's still slow after ankle injury"
Fox Sports has the same identical story with no sight of the original. There is not yet a single comment and it says it was updated today at 9:33, which leads me to speculate that the original story was either never run or was deleted.
NBC Sports "updated" their AP story at 11:32 last night with no mention of the previous version and Yahoo has the updated story but also links to the original story. The Sporting News posted an article yesterday titled "Brady jokes that he's still slow after injury" but it's not clear from the comments whether or not the story was updated or not.

One thing that is clear is that all these various media outlets get there stories from a very limited number of original sources, such as AP. Jumping from site to site you're far more likely to find the same AP story than an original column. It also appears that many people have no problem with commenting on a story without reading anything more than the headline, and rehashing unoriginal comments and viewpoints.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

One thing that is clear is that all these various media outlets get there stories from a very limited number of original sources, such as AP. Jumping from site to site you're far more likely to find the same AP story than an original column. It also appears that many people have no problem with commenting on a story without reading anything more than the headline, and rehashing unoriginal comments and viewpoints.

You just described a major problem with news journalism. The initiating orgs q.v. AP, Reuters first write a story, sometimes poorly vetted or with a reporter's biased view. Then the secondary outlets (newspapers & online sources) echo the same AP story with no further attempt to vet it. Much of the time, that's fine but a significant amount of misinformation gets into the online 'record' that's nearly impossible to eradicate even if corrected.

 

[PatriotsReign]

Re: espn claims brady is still hurt

thats a opinion show not a news show. there is a difference. and on that show there is Alan comes to give the left view point. you get opinions from the left and the right unlike cnn and msnbc . on those stations its usually three left leaning guest opposed to one right and most of the time its just lefties and no righties at all.

Give me a break. They put a weakling like Alan alongside a guy who "thinks" he's tough. Hannity is such a wuss but Fox gives him the dominant role on the show. It's a set-up.

But then again, we're not staying on-topic here,so this debate is over

 

[PatriotsReign]

Big fish in a little pond vs. Big Fish in a big pond. Need a reason Bob Halloran is local not National.

But when a reporter is local, they have NO excuse if they get a story wrong. The national sports news has so much more to filter through.

 

[PatriotsReign]

Re: espn claims brady is still hurt

Done!! come debate! and before anyone joins me, just know that this will be a debate that can't be won.
http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?p=909831#post909831

your a comedian lol

pride, I wasn't infering that I can't be beat in this debate. I meant no one will win because it's just an opinion based discussion.

I can be a jerk, but not that bad!

 

[JoeSixPat]

Here's a bullet from the Buffalo News via 4for4.com

• 08JUN08 Buffalo News : Patriots QB Tom Brady says he is slow and can't jump because of lingering effects of an ankle injury late last season. Brady, speaking on the second day of the team's three-day minicamp, said Saturday that his offseason training program has been limited by the fact that he still cannot lift a lot of weight. The 30-year-old Brady first injured his ankle against San Diego in the AFC championship game, two weeks before the Patriots' Super Bowl loss to the Giants.

 

[NEPatriot]

Re: ridiculous spin on cbssportsline story?

AP twisted Brady's words and the meaning changes. Brady will be in 'injury' list again and this time is not his shoulder but his ankle.

 

[Gumby]

story updated yet still has THIS in it.

Updated: June 7, 2008, 11:31 PM ET

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- New England Patriots' quarterback Tom Brady described the lingering effects of his injury late last season, saying Saturday that his ankle now feels really good, but he joked that he's still slow and can't jump.

Speaking on the second day of the three-day mandatory minicamp, Brady said his off season training program has been somewhat limited by the fact that still does not lift a lot of weight. "That hasn't changed," the NFL's Most Valuable Player told reporters.

so his ankle has limited him from lifting a lot of weight;......hmmmm would that be the bench presses or the arm curls ESPN?

LOL.

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

Re: espn claims brady is still hurt

Yahoo! didn't get it right; the AP corrected their story and Yahoo! ran it. That story wast posted 13 hours ago. The original ESPN.com story was from early yesterday. My guess is that EPSN.com is now also running that same AP story.

My whole point is everyone needs to stop seeing 100% red when it comes to ESPN and maybe try to be rational every once in awhile (you know, the very same thing those people claim ESPN should be ).

I agree that this was an AP mistake and ANYONE running their wire reports without the slightest check for accuracy would have gotten caught with egg on their faces.

That said, there are so many OTHER reasons to hate ESPN. The way they went after the Patriots with obvious biased. The way their football coverage pales in comparison to the way they push every other sport down our throats... the breaking up of primetime into little pieces which they scatter amongst the rest of sportscenter so that we have to watch all of their crappy coverage for example.

Bottomline is that they suck. I recently switched to Verizon Fios for TV/Internet/Phone for the sole reason that they have NFL Network in their basic package.