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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Talk about downplaying what happened.
Brown was told by the Patriots not to have contact with either woman. Yet, he fired off those text messages.
Several people think Brown has a good chance, most noticeably Michael McCann, who is probably the most prominent sports-lawyer-journalist in the industry.What expert opinion? Provide a link.
NO ONE I've seen has said that Brown has a chance in hell of getting paid the SB because he violated his contract clauses.
Actually, only 5M of the 9M is committed in cap space. The Patriots have filed to get that back, but it would be a credit next year. Just like the remainder would be credited next year.
You've been destroyed time and again by numerous people who are much smarter than you on this topic, yet you keep yammering on like a fool.
As per usual, DaBruinz doesn't have the first clue what he is talking about. He should stick to hockey.This has been proven wrong time and time again. He was told after, not before. Please don't keep spreading this false timeline.
As per usual, DaBruinz doesn't have the first clue what he is talking about. He should stick to hockey.
This has been proven wrong time and time again. He was told after, not before. Please don't keep spreading this false timeline.
What expert opinion? Provide a link.
NO ONE I've seen has said that Brown has a chance in hell of getting paid the SB because he violated his contract clauses.
Actually, only 5M of the 9M is committed in cap space. The Patriots have filed to get that back, but it would be a credit next year. Just like the remainder would be credited next year.
You've been destroyed time and again by numerous people who are much smarter than you on this topic, yet you keep yammering on like a fool.
Proven by who? Not you. Not the AB lover, Biffins.
Proven by who? Not you. Not the AB lover, Biffins.
I understand people disagreeing with my post and thinking Brown does not deserve a second chance, but DaBruinz is just making things up to suit his argument.
too longYou must be new here and clearly haven't read this thread or the other AB thread that was moved to the other forum just so we can start a new thread fresh......... or something. Pats are going to pay AB. We're on the hook.
Here's two independent opinions and links. There are others.
Kraft will end up paying money Pats owe AB
League sources told Yahoo Sports this week that Kraft must pay Brown the money he's owed, and here's why.
“[New England] fighting to keep that signing bonus now is either a gross misunderstanding of [the CBA’s] rules on voiding signing bonuses or it’s just out of spite," a source told Yahoo Sports. "I can’t believe they don’t understand the signing bonus voids in the CBA. There’s just no way. This is just spitefulness. They’re fighting [Brown] completely out of the anger and embarrassment in ownership.”
“If they had cut [Brown] as soon as they became aware of the civil suit, then there’s the argument of the [withholding] breach undermining the entire agreement,” another source said. “But they kept him on the roster after that lawsuit was filed. They played him in a game. They even paid him checks for [two weeks of] work. If the civil suit was a true dealbreaker, the Patriots could have shown it by breaking the deal. Their actions speak to their intent and their intent was shown when they continued to pay him after the civil suit.”
Here are the terms lined out by the CBA in which a player's signing bonus can be voided:
Where it concerns Brown’s $9 million signing bonus, the fight appears to be heading to an argument of one clause in the CBA. Specifically, Article 4 and section 9, which lays the foundation of the forfeitable breach of money within a contract. It states:
(a) Forfeitable Breach. Any player who (i) willfully fails to report, practice or play with the result that the player’s ability to fully participate and contribute to the team is substantially undermined (for example, without limitation, holding out or leaving the squad absent a showing of extreme personal hardship); or (ii) is unavailable to the team due to conduct by him that results in his incarceration; or (iii) is unavailable to the team due to a nonfootball injury that resulted from a material breach of Paragraph 3 of his NFL Player Contract; or (iv) voluntarily retires ...
Brown does not fit into any of those qualifications for termination of his $9 million signing bonus, and therefore will end up receiving that money from Kraft. Another source from Yahoo Sports said that if the Patriots had cut him as soon as they found out about the allegations, then maybe they wouldn't have to pay him.
“If they had cut [Brown] as soon as they became aware of the civil suit, then there’s the argument of the [withholding] breach undermining the entire agreement,” the source said. “But they kept him on the roster after that lawsuit was filed. They played him in a game. They even paid him checks for [two weeks of] work. If the civil suit was a true dealbreaker, the Patriots could have shown it by breaking the deal. Their actions speak to their intent and their intent was shown when they continued to pay him after the civil suit.”
It definitely sounds like Brown will be getting paid, and New England will pay the price for not cutting him as soon as the sexual assault and rape allegations came out against him
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And a second link
Antonio Brown's case for recouping $40 million: Could he really win his grievances?
6. Signing bonus from the Patriots: $9 million
Brown's chances of winning this grievance: Strong
This is where it gets really interesting. The Patriots gave Brown a $9 million signing bonus -- half of which was to be paid on Sept. 23, three days after they ended up cutting him, and the other half in January. They haven't technically paid it yet, and New England will likely argue that it shouldn't have to pay him because of a "representation warranty clause" that claims breach of contract since Brown didn't disclose a situation that would have prevented him from continued availability. That situation would be the civil suit in which his former trainer accused Brown of rape.
Brown and his attorneys will argue a civil suit is not likely to render a player unavailable to play football, that the Patriots could not reasonably assume said suit would result in a suspension and that they cut him only after it was revealed he sent intimidating text messages to a different woman whose accusations surfaced after he'd already played a game for the team.
Brown will argue the Patriots' reason for cutting him appears to have been those text messages (since they didn't cut him after learning of the civil suit and, in fact, allowed him to play for them), and that the conduct occurred after the team signed him. Therefore, it wouldn't fall under a representation warranty clause, because it wasn't a pre-existing situation at the time of his signing.
The NFLPA knows it doesn't have a strong case to pursue the voided guaranteed salary money from Oakland and New England because of the way those contracts were written. But a signing bonus is considered money earned at the time of signing (hence its name), and the union will fight hard for Brown on this one, if only to avoid setting a precedent that allows other teams a road map for getting out of signing-bonus money with other players in the future.
Taking pictures off someone's personal site and making comments on them can be considered cyber-stalking. Not to mention it's a form of witness intimidation.
People need to get it through their heads that there is noting thats says the exempt list requires any charges, criminal or otherwise.
This has been proven wrong time and time again. He was told after, not before. Please don't keep spreading this false timeline.
I'm Pats lover. And Pats need AB. So I'm an AB fan. If Pats didn't need AB (and weren't paying him), I wouldn't care.
Yeah lets pay him again to not play for us. Why won't Kraft and Belichick come on here to take the free wisdom you so graciously have blessed us with.Well, let's bring him back and see what NFL does.
Oh wait, Kraft Bob doesn't want to get his buddy Goodell upset.
Because...So, Biff, if it’s such a no-brainer to sign Brown why has no team done it yet?