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    Deflategate was ******** from the jump. It was also an assault on BB and TBs professional credibility at a time when neither should have been reasonably questionable. This is an allegation of ABs personal credibility at a high point of some strange circumstances around his personal conduct. If this was happening while he was on the Steelers, ZERO people here would be defending him. The main differentiating factor here in perspective appears to be that he is now on the Patriots. Ok.

    Again, I’m all for fairness and whatever appropriate legal channels this goes thru now, so be it. Not wishing him ill or presuming guilt in any way, certainly there are some strange circumstances around these allegations. Personally, I didn’t want to root for this dude on Friday, and I don’t want to do it now. If other people feel differently, that’s fine. Team ain’t all Boy Scouts, that’s cool.
     
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    I understand rape is terrible. However I don't jump to save women just because its a female. Yes, I believe some men are swayed because they want to defend a defenseless female. If there's proof, ill be on her side. However im on NEITHER side til we get more info.
     
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    Awesome.
     
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    This is just another example of why I say that the league should not be in the business of punishing players for non-NFL issues.
     
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    Actually this is my point and what I am afraid of, you are placed on the exemption list until investigation is over no? Is that not what they did to Peterson?
    Big Ben was suspended for four games for a civil suit as well.
     
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    We don’t know if the case was already investigated without charges or not. We also don’t know how the victim proceeded to handle things after they occurred. For example, I’m guessing that she probably didn’t follow through the normal procedures that a normal rape victim does, in terms of going to the hospital and getting swabs, etc. It’s possible that there wasn’t much evidence to present.
     
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    Fair enough, I had forgotten that.

    Not sure the “how old are you” attempt at denigrating my opinion is necessary, but whatever.
     
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    It’s not about “jumping to save” women, IMO.

    It’s about giving them a basic level of trust and benefit of the doubt, in the same way we do the accused.

    The problem with that, is, in these situations it seems there’s only room for one person’s version of the truth to exist, which makes sense given the context.

    I think that we should generally take both the accuser and the accused in good faith and allow the facts to present themselves.
     
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    I was on board until Schefter started crazy talk on ESPN and I have taken some steps back.
     
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    Right, but if the press release is correct, what could the league possibly determine by "investigating" a civil suit? It doesn't make sense.
     
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    Again, that's not what they did to Peterson. He was criminally indicted. Could we resist posting before knowing historical facts?
     
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    And you've been VERY consistent with this stance.
     
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    CYA is a thing.
     
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    She is an accuser, not a victim.
     
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    League did nothing about hill so they should so nothing about brown unless further development
     
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    It was question as I was not sure btw.
     
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    Yeah...this won't die out. Can't go a season without some sort of scandal. Yes, I do believe Brown is innocent in the accusations. Statue of limitations has expired.

    Your gold-digging ass never filed a police report or went to the ER, if you were truly "raped". Unfortunately for Brown, he"ll be another victim of the "me-too" movement.

    His endorsement deals will get canceled, and OUR worst case scenario, Belichick cuts or trades him. If Brown gets the axe, than I hope we get something or someone out of it.
     
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    Agreed. Just imagine if the NFL wasn’t “investigating.”
     
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    That's not neccessarily true. You don't have to be. The exemption list is kind of recourse for a team where they don't have to cut or release a player and the player d
    Conduct detrimental to the league. That's what it falls under. If a women accused a player of abuse and filed a civil suit for damages, the league could still investigate and suspend
     
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    Edelman was accused in 2011
     

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