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and now Pats fans...your best Pats pal and mine too...Ron Borges

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How do you know something like that exists in his deal?

Virtually every NFL contract has an airtight morals clause. Most of them can be triggered with just an arrest for a felony. But someone reported yesterday that the Pats have confirmed (I think unofficially) that they are well protected in the contract with Hernandez for this situation.
 
A vicious canard! We all know that it was Ty's cousin's stash!

I should know that since my high school girlfriend who lived in the Niagara region witnessed the whole thing.
 
Virtually every NFL contract has an airtight morals clause. Most of them can be triggered with just an arrest for a felony. But someone reported yesterday that the Pats have confirmed (I think unofficially) that they are well protected in the contract with Hernandez for this situation.

Interesting. With all the **** that goes on in the NFL i've never heard a team use it.

Actually...what happened to Vick? Did the Falcons pursue money from him?
 
Interesting. With all the **** that goes on in the NFL i've never heard a team use it.

Actually...what happened to Vick? Did the Falcons pursue money from him?

They did use it against Vick and did get money (this I know for sure) and I think cap space back.
 
Not a fan of either writer, but even a stopped clock is correct twice a day. Please point out to me where either one of them is wrong in their "Patriot Way" columns.

They are both wrong because neither one mentions the other 99% of the players that have played for this franchise since the Krafts bought the team who represent what is right about professsional football.

It's not correct that the "Patriot Way" is a sham. The Patriots do not preach perfection. If anything, they preach trying to get better every day.

Every franchise - every employer - is going to hire people who don't work out and who do things outside of work that get them into trouble no matter how much due diligence and reference checking you do. Doctors lose their license, lawyers get disbarred, Globe and Herald reporters plagiarize, CFOs embezzle, athletes use PEDs, law enforcement get too close to the bad guys, etc.

Borges and Shaughnessy are using this situation to climb onto their holier than thou soap boxes to stick a needle into the Patriots. That's their right as members of the 4th Estate, but it does not make them correct.

Answer this question on behalf of your beloved reporters:

Do you think the New England Patriots would have drafted with the 113th pick in the 2010 NFL draft or extended the contract of a 6'1" tight end if they had known he would become the central suspect in an execution style murder during the off-season between his 3rd and 4th seasons with the team?

Belichick and Kraft have reached at reclamation projects and some guys like Corey Dillon were model citizens and have been since. Albert Haynesworth turned out to be what he was reputed to be.

Borges takes an unfair shot at Aquib Talib who has not done anything to earn our criticism since he became a Patriot. He might, but he knows the deal.

The Randy Moss shot is Borges at his worst. Randy Moss was a unique talent and quirky personality, but he never did anything to embarrass the Patriots like this situation. He came in with a cloud over his head for run ins with the authorities in Minneapolis, but stayed out of trouble here. He shot his way out of town at a moment in time when his abilities had diminished, and his role was changing. That was not an indictment of the so-called "Patriot Way."
 
No I trust in what Bill B. says and does regarding these guys.
Hell I even use to think it was BS when it came to drafting boy scouts. I am "just win baby" type of guy.I trusted the Pats decisions on these guys. I guess they better reevaluate.
But in looking back maybe there is more to taking guys with character than statistics.
I remember win the Pats were more like todays Bruins (and more likeable) than yesterdays raiders

That's your perception of the players. What makes you think that the Bruins players are all a bunch of high character guys? I certainly don't pretend to know.

As for the AH situation its all perfect hindsight judgement. At the time everyone felt AH dropped because of weed not gang affiliation. I would guess a large portion of players on every team have ties to bad people but that doesn't mean they themselves are bad. Nothing I have ever read has ever said that Aaron was a bad guy capable of something like this. To look back and say its the Patriots fault for picking this bad guy is ridiculous.
 
Virtually every NFL contract has an airtight morals clause. Most of them can be triggered with just an arrest for a felony. But someone reported yesterday that the Pats have confirmed (I think unofficially) that they are well protected in the contract with Hernandez for this situation.

Great, but they don't get that wasted draft pick back do they? So much for another "value" pick....
 
Borges does have one on for Belichick and the Pats.
But he is right with this article.

This what I posted yesterday.



Get a grip Pats fans.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

They took a chance on some questionable character guys.

They haven't won a Super Bowl.

That doesn't imply that the former caused the latter.
 
That's your perception of the players. What makes you think that the Bruins players are all a bunch of high character guys? I certainly don't pretend to know.

As for the AH situation its all perfect hindsight judgement. At the time everyone felt AH dropped because of weed not gang affiliation. I would guess a large portion of players on every team have ties to bad people but that doesn't mean they themselves are bad. Nothing I have ever read has ever said that Aaron was a bad guy capable of something like this. To look back and say its the Patriots fault for picking this bad guy is ridiculous.

Look facts are facts. They got AH at the bargain bin for reasons they already knew and the fact he was a bargain. They knew they were taking a chance on a potential POS. Well he turned out to be what everyone else thought he was.
Hey I don't fault them for taking a chance. But when stuff goes haywire like in this situation the Pats are not blameless.
Some of these guys are sketchy and what you got was the worst possible scenario. Roll the dice enough times you will roll out.
 
A vicious canard! We all know that it was Ty's cousin's stash!

Dude's name was even Law. How dare you question Ty's character? Number one, he could kick your butt, and number two, if he couldn't, he could Lawyer up

 
Look facts are facts. They got AH at the bargain bin for reasons they already knew and the fact he was a bargain. They knew they were taking a chance on a potential POS. Well he turned out to be what everyone else thought he was.
Hey I don't fault them for taking a chance. But when stuff goes haywire like in this situation the Pats are not blameless.
Some of these guys are sketchy and what you got was the worst possible scenario. Roll the dice enough times you will roll out.

Hernandez was worth a fourth round pick on his production to date alone, even if he never plays another down for the Pats.
 
Look facts are facts. They got AH at the bargain bin for reasons they already knew and the fact he was a bargain. They knew they were taking a chance on a potential POS. Well he turned out to be what everyone else thought he was.
Hey I don't fault them for taking a chance. But when stuff goes haywire like in this situation the Pats are not blameless.
Some of these guys are sketchy and what you got was the worst possible scenario. Roll the dice enough times you will roll out.

The Pats are not blameless? What are you blaming them for? He's been a great player for them over these past three years. Why is that worthy of blame?
 
That's an interesting point about the drafting of Gronknandez... I've seen here and heard on sports radio how it's a terrible thing to have "taken a flyer" in the draft... three years of a league-elite TE tandem is worth the picks. Now, extending the contracts, that's a bit of a bite in the bag, but I'm sure in the Hernandez case he's broken about 30 clauses if he's actually guilty of anything. Something tells me if the worst happens, we'll have alllll sorts of extra cap room.
 
Never mind criticizing The Patriot Way.

How about The Boston Herald Way?

Why is it that questionable character (history of plagarism) and rank incompetence (shoddy, utterly inaccurate reporting of huge alleged scandal on the eve of major sporting event) are not barriers to employment at this pathetic, low rent publication?
 
The Pats are not blameless? What are you blaming them for? He's been a great player for them over these past three years. Why is that worthy of blame?

It's obvious that Patriots management, using their Minority Report-style crime predictor, should have seen that Hernandez was going to be involved in a murder in June of 2013 and not drafted him.

The fact they were aware of this and still drafted him makes them a party to the crime. Expect more arrests at Gillette in the very near future.
 
I don't fault the pats for drafting him.......but here we are.......as long as the pats act on the facts without prejudice, then they'll be fine.......

right now, hernandez needs to lawyer up which I am sure he already has, and get down to salvaging what he can from his life.......

chalk one up in the 'people are stupid' column
 
Why do editors let people spew out garbage (that's doing a disservice to garbage) like that? That crap isn't even worth recycling.

5 pages of comments so far. I'm sorry, you were saying?

edit: sorry, 6
 
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