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Aaron Rodgers to retire next week? UPDATE: Not Retiring

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I love that he listed off a bunch of guys that he thought the Packers mistreated at the end of their time. I love it because you're able to go back and look at those histories, and you can see that Rodgers is full of ****.
If he ran the team he would be surrounded by 41 year old fullbacks and receivers.
 

Ice_Ice_Brady

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The Cobb trade is so stupid from the standpoint of team needs and perfectly illustrates why they shouldn’t listen to a selfish ass who only cares about his personal stats.

They have one All-Pro, OPOY candidate in Davante Adams, who makes all the other receivers better with the well known Moss effect (well, I call it that, but really it’s every star skill player opens up the coverages for complementary players.)

They have two solid #2/#3 receivers in Valdes-Scantling and Lazard. These guys aren’t stars, but they were capable enough to support one of the best offenses in football. They just drafted another receiver, Amari Rodgers, in round 3.

So what does Cobb bring you with his price tag? Assuming he returns to form, which is an assumption, you upgrade from good #2 wide receiver to a very good #2 wide receiver. He mostly does the same thing as these bargain guys but a little better, assuming he isn’t washed.

They took a position of moderate strength, or maybe neutral, and slightly upgraded it.

This is exactly why the Packers smartly let Cobb walk to begin with. Adams is the stud; paying him and playing cheaper guys at #2/3 makes cap sense.

The Packers have some pretty big holes…this was so stupid. This is nothing like the Bucs acquiring Gronkowski (they were the only team he’d play for, though many teams would have wanted if he were available) or AB (dirt cheap, team struggled with depth after injuries and Watson fail.)
 

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While it was hilarious Aaron throwing the organization under the bus, he’s blaming the team for the wrong reasons. Most of the guys they “let go” or “low balled” didn’t have much left in the tank. The real problem was the awful drafting which finally prompted the long overdue firing of Ted Thompson. The new GM was his protégée and isn’t doing much better.

Rodgers does his fair of choking, but their roster has been terrible for years and his teams have been overmatched in many playoff games. Many are blinded by their last two seasons with a 13-3 record. It’s the same formula every year: take out Adams and make the other big lumbering WR’s beat you. They have no TE. They have holes in all 3 levels of the D.

Many will be fooled with the Packers contending again, only to take a beat down sometime in the playoffs.
 
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Deus Irae

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The Cobb trade is so stupid from the standpoint of team needs and perfectly illustrates why they shouldn’t listen to a selfish ass who only cares about his personal stats.

They have one All-Pro, OPOY candidate in Davante Adams, who makes all the other receivers better with the well known Moss effect (well, I call it that, but really it’s every star skill player opens up the coverages for complementary players.)

They have two solid #2/#3 receivers in Valdes-Scantling and Lazard. These guys aren’t stars, but they were capable enough to support one of the best offenses in football. They just drafted another receiver, Amari Rodgers, in round 3.

So what does Cobb bring you with his price tag? Assuming he returns to form, which is an assumption, you upgrade from good #2 wide receiver to a very good #2 wide receiver. He mostly does the same thing as these bargain guys but a little better, assuming he isn’t washed.

They took a position of moderate strength, or maybe neutral, and slightly upgraded it.

This is exactly why the Packers smartly let Cobb walk to begin with. Adams is the stud; paying him and playing cheaper guys at #2/3 makes cap sense.

The Packers have some pretty big holes…this was so stupid. This is nothing like the Bucs acquiring Gronkowski (they were the only team he’d play for, though many teams would have wanted if he were available) or AB (dirt cheap, team struggled with depth after injuries and Watson fail.)
His numbers had been in decline even in Green Bay. It should be fun to watch Rodgers forcing him the ball in order to prove himself "right" about this move.
 

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While it was hilarious Aaron throwing the organization under the bus, he’s blaming the team for the wrong reasons. Most of the guys they “let go” or “low balled” didn’t have much left in the tank. The real problem was the awful drafting which finally prompted the long overdue firing of Ted Thompson. The new GM was his protégée and isn’t doing much better.

Rodgers does his fair of choking, but their roster has been terrible for years and his teams have been overmatched in many playoff games. Many are blinded by their last two seasons with a 13-3 record. It’s the same formula every year: take out Adams and make the other big lumbering WR’s beat you. They have no TE. They have holes in all 3 levels of the D.

Many will be fooled with the Packers contending again, only to take a beat down sometime in the playoffs.

LaFleur‘s offense is more about an athletic OL and fast cut/run RBs, which sets up the passing game. Green Bay’s offensive line has led the league (or been close) in advanced metrics for two years. $34M spent on David Bakhtiari and Aaron Jones combined.

You can’t have it all, but Rodgers is close…he’s one of the highest paid QBs, a $15M receiver, and now another $10M receiver.

There’s a reason Rodgers advanced stats like ANY/A and PFF analysis had been very subpar in 2015, 2017, and 2018 and now he’s had an all-time season. The offense is ****ing stacked, as is any offense where the QB throws 48 TDs.

No star tight end? No star WR2? The excuses are almost unbearable to hear…ignoring all the riches and pointing to a few rags.

Now about that defense…there’s no money left to fix it…well, see above.
 

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The offense is ****ing stacked, as is any offense where the QB throws 48 TDs.
If this were the Pats offense you’d be fuming. They have nice RB’s, O-line, Adams and that’s really it. The Lazard’s and Scantling’s are guys they’ve had before and you won’t hear from them again after the Packers are done with them.

In 2010, Brady almost threw 40 TD’s with Welker and two rookie TE’s. Rex Ryan said it was very easy to put the game plan together to stop their offense in the AFCDG clogging the middle of the field and make Brady throw to Revis and Cromartie. Pats O got exposed.

No star tight end? No star WR2? The excuses are almost unbearable to hear…ignoring all the riches and pointing to a few rags.
Their roster isn’t very good and hasn’t been for years. There are plenty of playoff games exposing this with them getting blown out from the start.

They are a poor man’s Manning’s Colts.
 

Deus Irae

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If this were the Pats offense you’d be fuming. They have nice RB’s, O-line, Adams and that’s really it. The Lazard’s and Scantling’s are guys they’ve had before and you won’t hear from them again after the Packers are done with them.

In 2010, Brady almost threw 36 TD’s with Welker and two rookie TE’s. Rex Ryan said it was very easy to put the game plan together to stop their offense in the AFCDG clogging the middle of the field and make Brady throw to Revis and Cromartie. Pats O got exposed.


Their roster isn’t very good and hasn’t been for years. There are plenty of playoff games exposing this with them getting blown out from the start.

They are a poor man’s Manning’s Colts.
2017: Adams, Cobb, Nelson, Bennett
2018: Adams, Cobb, Graham


So, even granting the last 2 seasons as being seasons with more limited and/or less developed weapons, you're take on that Packers' offense isn't accurate. And, just last year, Tonyan (TE) had 52 catches on 59 targets. Also, Jones is a dual threat out of the backfield.


That's not to say that the roster's constantly been great, but it's not as if Rodgers has had to deal with the late 2019 Patriots offensive roster, or anything close to that.
 
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If this were the Pats offense you’d be fuming. They have nice RB’s, O-line, Adams and that’s really it. The Lazard’s and Scantling’s are guys they’ve had before and you won’t hear from them again after the Packers are done with them.

Again,

Rodgers (37M) makes about $12M more than Brady

Adams (15M) makes $5M more than Brady’s prime target ever made.

Cobb (8M) makes $2M more than Brady’s #2 target ever made.

Jones (12M) makes about $8M more than Brady’s #1 RB ever made.

On top of that Bakhtiari is the highest paid lineman of all-time.

But now…what…where’s the star tight end and who is Aaron’s 4th receiver!?!?

Come on…

The team is constructed as offensive heavy and have invested tons of money in skill players. The defense did well overall last year and picked off Brady THREE times to serve it up on a silver platter. They picked off Wilson FOUR times in 2014.

Wins/Losses cause revisionism. Green Bay defenses might have been “super team defenses” in those two seasons if Rodgers could finish. Instead, the story is how those teams were so flawed despite him carrying them.

Most of the criticism is exaggerated just like Manning’s Colts. These teams are good enough to win championships but need their Hall of Fame QBs to have Hall of Fame performances.
 

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2017: Adams, Cobb, Nelson, Bennett
Nelson fell off a cliff. Cobb averaged a whopping 9.9 per catch. Bennett barely played and ended up back with the Pats. No ground game.
2018: Adams, Cobb, Graham
Cobb and Graham were a shell of themselves. Aaron Jones getting closer to the player he is today.

We’d be furious with this supporting cast.
 
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TheRainMaker

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Again,

Rodgers (37M) makes about $12M more than Brady

Adams (15M) makes $5M more than Brady’s prime target ever made.

Cobb (8M) makes $2M more than Brady’s #2 target ever made.

Jones (12M) makes about $8M more than Brady’s #1 RB ever made.

On top of that Bakhtiari is the highest paid lineman of all-time.

But now…what…where’s the star tight end and who is Aaron’s 4th receiver!?!?

Come on…

The team is constructed as offensive heavy and have invested tons of money in skill players. The defense did well overall last year and picked off Brady THREE times to serve it up on a silver platter. They picked off Wilson FOUR times in 2014.

Most of the criticism is exaggerated just like Manning’s Colts. These teams are good enough to win championships but need their Hall of Fame QBs to have Hall of Fame performances.
They were never going to beat Tom Brady and the Bucs and you know it.

They were not good enough in 2019 getting the s*** kicked out them by the 49ers twice.

I agree with 2014. There’s no excuse for that.
 

Ice_Ice_Brady

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They were never going to beat Tom Brady and the Bucs and you know it.

They were 3-point home favorites.

They trailed by five points at the end of the 3rd quarter. A 5-point deficit…and in the fourth quarter:
  • The Bucs would only score 3 points
  • Brady would get intercepted two times
  • The Packers would have 3 possessions
Why were they never going to win that game? I liked the Bucs going into it as well, but if I’d been told Brady would have 3 INTs, I’d guess the Packers win at least 90% of the time. But you’re right…I felt strongly the Packers would lose. Because Rodgers would fail to deliver at the end.

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Deus Irae

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Nelson fell off a cliff. Cobb averaged a whopping 9.9 per catch. Bennett barely played and ended up back with the Pats. No ground game.

Cobb and Graham were a shell of themselves. Aaron Jones getting closer to the player he is today.

We’d be furious with this supporting cast.
Sorry, but you don't get to slight Nelson when Rodgers just was calling it a mistake for the Packers to have let him go.

Also, see New England Patriots, seasons 2013, 2015, 2016 once Gronk went down, 2018, and 2019
 

TheRainMaker

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They were 3-point home favorites.

They trailed by five points at the end of the 3rd quarter. A 5-point deficit…and in the fourth quarter:
  • The Bucs would only score 3 points
  • Brady would get intercepted two times
  • The Packers would have 3 possessions
Why were they never going to win that game? I liked the Bucs going into it as well, but if I’d been told Brady would have 3 INTs, I’d guess the Packers win at least 90% of the time. But you’re right…I felt strongly the Packers would lose. Because Rodgers would fail to deliver at the end.

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Rodgers choked right before the 2nd half and the game should’ve been over. I give him credit for the comeback after the D got 3 Int’s when he could’ve folded like he normally does.
 

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