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Aaron Rodgers positive for COVID (update: “furious” status leaked, claims he didn’t lie, attacks NFL protocols)

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Even if he isn't a complete dummy (although I think that is debatable) he has no education (which provides discipline for intelligence) or training in data-driven scientific based inquiry and assessment. What has changed in recent years is the ability to accurately gauge self-expertise or "know what you know". Someone like my grandfather was a smart guy without much formal education, but he could figure out what he knew or could learn from books and for fields like medicine where he simply didn't have the training he relied on medical experts and MDs.

In contrast, there is a relatively new internet-based societal phenomena where people without an education and experience in data-driven scientific based inquiry and assessment decide that by Googling only websites and talking heads that already agree with their preconceptions they can do "their own research" that has more validity than well educated and trained experts that spend their lives in the field. Rodgers is a perfect example, he clearly has no ability to gauge "what he knows" and is convinced by listening to people that already agree with his opinions (like Rogen) and googling anti-vax and anti-mask conspiracy websites he knows more than the experts.

Brian Williams met the Pope, flew with Seal team 6 into combat and flew in an helicopter hit by a rocket launcher. All BS.

I agree with you but there's a serious trust issue between the managerial class and the populace.
Finding out that Fauci authorized NIH funding to the Wuhan lab a year later didn't help regardless of how well intended it was.
 
You still dont know ****
I wish I could live in your fantasy land where I believed big pharma and the government saw me as anything more than a revenue source.

Maybe it’s true what they say. Ignorance is bliss.
 
****s just been a bummer lately all around... Just so tired of this stuff. God it is exhausting. So exhausting.
I personally don't give a single solitary damn about what some entirely-removed-from-everday-reality icon says or does, and to ascribe some political ideology to them and get mad when they infringe on that is... Well, it's called a parasocial relationship. The content behind this discussion, however, is another matter and while I respect everyone's participation, it's just getting so goddamn exhausting.

Regardless of folks' position on anything here, I hope y'all are maintaining well.
 
What I find interesting is that Aaron Rodgers cited Joe Rogan as an authority. Joe Rogan is a local guy who went to Newton South High School and dropped out of UMass Boston. Maybe Rodgers should think about why Joe Rogan would be so supportive of his decision not to get vaccinated. Is it because Rogan is systematically removing all the roadblocks he can to another Super Bowl Championship for his New New England Patriots?

... and to think that we thought it was Brady and Belichick all along. I wonder what Joe Rogan has in mind for the Buffalo Bills.


Obviously, making Cole Beasley a super-spreader.
 
Wtf is with all this BiG pHaRmA and biG tEch whining.

Their entire platform is all about product competition, consumer centrism, deregulation, survival of the fittest, profit is good.

But we’re sheep cuz big pharma? Wtf? Isn’t it supposed to work just like this? Companies develop the vaccine for consumer share and profit? Now it’s a bad thing and we’re just idiots?

The idea that Big Business, monetary reward, capitalism were great, all these years, spouted off by the same people now crying about it. I feel embarrassed for all these fools who are just showing us their entire ass crack…no one is more of a gullible than someone who is now fully on the other side of an argument, without even realizing it.
 
A form. Sure.

He did score a 35 on his Wonderlic.

I'm not saying AR is a moron.

I'm not saying hes the next Stephen Hawking.

What I don't think is just because someone is an NFL QB by default are assumed a come to a data-driven, scientific-based, reasonable opinion/assessment.
He also went to Cal. That is not a school that will let in dummies. So AR is probably intelligent in the scholastic realm, and is very well spoken. It seems he let his political leanings drive his Covid response. He also is a selfish piece of **** for putting others in danger.
 
Guy I work with got COVID 10 months ago. Was in the hospital for 3 weeks.

At present his lungs are at 70% capacity and experiences numbness in his upper thighs. Before covid was completely healthy, in great shape and physically active.

Long haulers are absolutely a real thing.
Add to the fact that over 5 MILLION people worldwide have died from Covid. FIVE MILLION. Of course the USA being the dumbest and most selfish country in the world, leads all countries with Covid deaths with 750,000. That doesn’t faze the anti vaxxers and anti maskers, because Covid never existed, lalalalalalala I can’t hear you.
 
From the la times article?

based on 400 people with at least one lingering symptom? Why would that study mean anything to anybody. Nearly half of the people in the study that are referred to as having long covid reported fatigue, loss of smell, or some muscle pain. That isn’t significant to me.

I had covid a month ago. It wasn’t a good time, but was wholly unremarkable outside of losing my smell. So I guess I’m a long covid patient since I still can’t smell much. Feel free to go about your lives though. I won’t tell you how to live even though I faced the virus and now I’m a survivor.
Good thing you can’t smell, with all of the ******** you spew.
 
Feel free to go about your lives though. I won’t tell you how to live even though I faced the virus and now I’m a survivor.

I’d prefer you didn’t.

You know…considering you opted to contract a potentially deadly virus rather than avoiding it through vaccination. And all for a level of future protection that’s unlikely to be as strong as a vaccination would have provided.

Sounds like sticking a knife in a toaster and frying part of your brain, then acting as though you’re a man of great perseverance and wisdom for being “a survivor.”
 
I get your point, and respect it, but let me perhaps take it more seriously than it was intended and respectfully push back a bit: of course Dunning-Krueger confirmation bias has always existed (such as KKK meetings in the 1920s), but the ease with which one can access like-minded extremist viewpoints and websites at the instantaneous push of a button on the internet is new. What is also new is the prevalence of media "opinion makers", websites, and media companies whose business model is 100% devoted to attracting viewers with one particular world view, the more extreme the better. Several major news and "opinion making" channels (on both sides of the spectrum) have completely transformed themselves in 10-20 years from presenting news with a somewhat conservative or liberal leaning to the extremist media aimed at one particular target audience we have today.

The other thing that has changed is the suspicion with which scientific and medical experts are viewed, it is a relatively recent phenomena at least since WWII (there was the Scopes Trial in 1925 but that was a small puddle compared to the ocean of anti-science media outlets and websites and sentiment now). I don't think science is the answer for everything (the meaning of life, God, our place in the universe, etc.), but for quantifiable measurable phenomena like physics, chemistry, and medicine (although it takes time to do the right type of medical trials) data driven science is our best source of information.
Ok.

These are things I know and agree with

On the other hand, I posted in a little bit of a funny-for-the-sake-of-funny mood, and maybe this much needed to be said, because some folks don't get the role of social media in our present confirmation bias universe.
 
Not one person I know has any lingering side effects.

How many people do you know who had Covid?

My fiancée is a nurse

Either you won't listen to her or she's a moron. Not a promising start either way.

and the hospitalized people are the ones you’d expect to be hospitalized with something that a person with average health could easily fight off.

WTF?! Tell that to family members of the THOUSANDS of people in average-to-good health who succumbed to this deadly disease.

And lol at the unvaccinated being the problem.

No. I cannot believe your fiancee is a nurse.
 
I’d prefer you didn’t.

You know…considering you opted to contract a potentially deadly virus rather than avoiding it through vaccination. And all for a level of future protection that’s unlikely to be as strong as a vaccination would have provided.

Sounds like sticking a knife in a toaster and frying part of your brain, then acting as though you’re a man of great perseverance and wisdom for being “a survivor.”
There’s a minuscule chance it’s deadly for my age group

If the vaccine prevented you from contracting or spreading it, you know, like vaccines should then maybe I’d have considered it.

science.org said:

Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine​

Just lol at that point that my natural pureblood immunity is somehow inferior to your vaccine. Is this science ok to trust or is this not the science you guys are talking about?
 
We should listen to nurses, then. 88% of nurses were vaxxed as of 8/18, and that number may be in the mid-90s now. Glad that’s settled.


I love this selective “my fiance is a nurse!” “This guy studied at Harvard!” “This guy is doctor!” when over 90% of the people in those groups are pro-vaccine, in which case, nurses, doctors, and higher education are all part of the big conspiracy. Lol…
 
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