A question on my mind virtually every day [Would BB draft Maye]

[sb1]

Actually, what we're talking about here is the development of raw QBs. Belichick has done it before. He also drafted Garoppolo who was playing in IAA against teams like Lindenwood. By definition these guys are raw because they haven't played against stiff competition.

A raw QB isn't really about lack of competition. Joe Milton played for Tennessee and he is extremely raw. It's someone who has almost all the physical traits to succeed at QB but has not refined them yet to play the position well in the NFL or learned other important traits such as reading defenses, when to concede a play, when to run, and so on.

You have no basis for your final statement.

What we know about Bill's MO, where he is at in his career, his age, etc. overwhelmingly points one way and it's not Bill picking Maye at #3.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I knew what he was saying I'm secure enough to embrace that the sentiment is accurate.

I had to trace back and see that you were referencing another post. However, you doubled down on it and said we should take it to that level (even if being sarcastic). I can appreciate someone's accomplishments, but that's where it ends with me. They are living rent free in our heads and probably find it bizarre we talk about them they way we do.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I'm wondering what's happening here with my posts being erased.

I've noticed this when I see a poster quote another poster, I click to trace back to that original post that was quoted and the post doesn't appear.

 

[upstater1]

A raw QB isn't really about lack of competition. Joe Milton played for Tennessee and he is extremely raw. It's someone who has almost all the physical traits to succeed at QB but has not refined them yet to play the position well in the NFL or learned other important traits such as reading defenses, when to concede a play, when to run, and so on.


What we know about Bill's MO, where he is at in his career, his age, etc. overwhelmingly points one way and it's not Bill picking Maye at #3.

Bill took the longview in his career. Even when he saw it was the end, he always put the team first.

 

[upstater1]

I have SBB blocked so I can't see his posts. That's odd you can't see screenshots.

I cant see my original post to you. The screenshot is just a fragment of what I wrote. Are you doing something?

 

[sb1]

I cant see my original post to you. The screenshot is just a fragment of what I wrote. Are you doing something?

No nothing other than posting and replying

 

[signbabybrady]

I guess it wasn't SB1 blocking. I wonder what else it could be.

 

[signbabybrady]

 

[Huckleberry1]

BB is omniscient, infallible, and everything he does is for a reason. I will not put up with all the blasphemy being spewed in this thread. Our lives would be nothing without him.

*yes, sarcastic, but I'll always love BB*

And he's the most handsome man on earth.

 

[signbabybrady]

Literally %99 of everyone said basically the same thing. Even those that might have thought Drake was better probably still put him 3rd based on what they thought Chi and Wash would do.

Everyone else says it and it means he goes 3rd. Bill says it and it means he was completely off Bill's board not even second thought.

 

[p8ryts]

I can’t believe this BS has 9 pages.

 

[XLIX]

Not in a million years. He would have traded down

 

[Ian]

I have SBB blocked so I can't see his posts. That's odd you can't see screenshots.

I cant see my original post to you. The screenshot is just a fragment of what I wrote. Are you doing something?

Checked and don't see why anything shouldn't be appearing between the two of you.

 

[sb1]

Bill took the longview in his career. Even when he saw it was the end, he always put the team first.

Bill absolutely wanted to break that record. I doubt he felt that a raw QB that needed a lot of coaching would get him there faster than a polished guy like McCarthy or Nix.

 

[upstater1]

Literally %99 of everyone said basically the same thing. Even those that might have thought Drake was better probably still put him 3rd based on what they thought Chi and Wash would do.

Everyone else says it and it means he goes 3rd. Bill says it and it means he was completely off Bill's board not even second thought.

It is really bizarre. The analysis was really right on target. Compliments: amazing arm can make all the throws: Detractions: poor footwork, abandons the pocket too easily.

Do people really believe this is unfair?

 

[Rob0729]

!!!

The idea that Belichick is against developing QBs seems preposterous given the evidence. I mean, I know Belichick isn't developing them himself, but he's certainly not against his QB Coach or OC doing it.

I don't think it is that Belichick is against developing a QB. In fact, he has always been adept at that from Brady to Cassel to Garoppolo. I think Belichick played a big role in developing all of them.

I personally thinks he feels he can develop a lesser QB into a winner than he believes he has to draft a QB high because if you don't you cannot get a franchise QB. I genuinely think he believes he can develop someone like a Jimmy Garoppolo who was an unheralded second round pick into a winner and that is why he passed on Lamar Jackson.

This is why I think he might have traded with either the Giants or Vikings rather than draft Maye because he thought he could have made McCarthy or Nix or Penix a franchise QB.

 

[signbabybrady]

I can’t believe this BS has 9 pages.

There's 2 threads on the main page about the exact same subject so it's actually 16 pages if you combine them. Not to mention it's been beat to death and probably merged into the mega thread a few times already.

Haters gonna hate.

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Post in thread 'A question on my mind virtually every day [Would BB draft Maye]'

Nov 12, 2025

BB is omniscient, infallible, and everything he does is for a reason. I will not put up with all the blasphemy being spewed in this thread. Our lives would be nothing without him.

*yes, sarcastic, but I'll always love BB*

And he's the most handsome man on earth.

• Huckleberry1

 

[The Gr8est]

No offers like that were reported to have been made. I guess teams may have changed their thinking and offered something just because it was Bill and they know he likes to trade but that seems unlikely.

At the time I was open to a trade down, but we were never offered 3 firsts.

In hindsight with how Maye is performing it would have been a bad trade even for 3 firsts, and consider that it would be Wolf making the picks.

I don’t want to think about it.

We are in a great place now.

 

[signbabybrady]

I don't think it is that Belichick is against developing a QB. In fact, he has always been adept at that from Brady to Cassel to Garoppolo. I think Belichick played a big role in developing all of them.

I personally thinks he feels he can develop a lesser QB into a winner than he believes he has to draft a QB high because if you don't you cannot get a franchise QB. I genuinely think he believes he can develop someone like a Jimmy Garoppolo who was an unheralded second round pick into a winner and that is why he passed on Lamar Jackson.

This is why I think he might have traded with either the Giants or Vikings rather than draft Maye because he thought he could have made McCarthy or Nix or Penix a franchise QB.

This seems like a better take than the one SB1 is trying to make.

You can argue Drake fits the same mold too but that's also why he'd be willing to take the value in a trade down for any of the 4.

But you could say all 4 are first round picks. So still all 4 are very different than a 2nd round D2 kid, 6th rder, or 7th rder. If you're going to make that first Rd investment I still think you'd prioritize the best of the 4 and there's almost no debate on who that was.

 

[Ian]

I don't think it is that Belichick is against developing a QB. In fact, he has always been adept at that from Brady to Cassel to Garoppolo. I think Belichick played a big role in developing all of them.

I personally thinks he feels he can develop a lesser QB into a winner than he believes he has to draft a QB high because if you don't you cannot get a franchise QB. I genuinely think he believes he can develop someone like a Jimmy Garoppolo who was an unheralded second round pick into a winner and that is why he passed on Lamar Jackson.

This is why I think he might have traded with either the Giants or Vikings rather than draft Maye because he thought he could have made McCarthy or Nix or Penix a franchise QB.

100% agree. I also think the bigger issue is that he would have preferred developing a guy who had solid fundamentals. I don't think he would have wanted to invest the additional time in taking someone like Drake that high and going through the growing pains he likely expected in such a raw player. Not at his age, and not coming off his second-straight 4-13 campaign.

Given their other depth issues (and we saw how thin they were last year), I think he would have stacked picks and tried to plug a lot of those holes, and he probably would have done better in free agency than Mayo, primarily because, like Vrabel, he carried more weight and had the relationships. But I absolutely agree. It would have been a trade back, and McCarthy, Nix, or Penix would be here right now. Although, who knows how that would have played out, especially if Josh wasn't here.