Patriots Rumor A.J. Brown trade rumors heat up - Should Patriots get him?

[upstater1]

You know that certain years the NFL Draft sucks right?? 2027 is going to be a very deep Draft at certain positions. I think 2028 is going to be a very weak Draft: Teams are going to lucky to get a back-up caliber type players in that Draft. Here's the point a 2027 First Rounder is going to a better investment than a 2028 First Rounder. You'll remember Isaiah Wynn/Lose and Cole Strange?? both were abysmal First Rounders: Strange should have Never been one. You take a proven player over an unproven Draft pick when you get the opportunity. IF the Patriots doesn't do it: some other Team will.

There really is no way to now that 2028 will be a weak draft. The guys coming out in that draft are 19 years old right now and having grown into their bodies and they have a ton of upperclassmen staying in school for NIL ahead of them.

There is really no way to know.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

I could get behind trading a 1st rounder for Quenton Nelson or someone else along the line, but I still don't see how people can look back at Super Bowl 60 and think AJ Brown would have made all the difference.

Who thinks AJ woulda made a difference in the SB? I don’t.
I thinking adding AJ to our current roster makes us better.

 

[mgteich]

I thinking adding AJ to our current roster makes us better.

So, you think adding Brown and dropping Douglas will make us a better team this year?

Maybe we should have a poll.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

Who thinks AJ woulda made a difference in the SB? I don’t.
I thinking adding AJ to our current roster makes us better.

I didn't mean you specifically, but it's obvious some see him as the missing piece.

I do agree with you that adding AJ to our current roster does make us better, but it's highly debatable whether or not that improvement is worth a 1st round pick.

Signing FB Reggie Gilliam no doubt makes us better. He wouldn't have been worth trading a 3rd round pick and paying $10 million annually though.

That's the whole debate with Brown How much do we improve, and what is it worth?

 

[mgteich]

I didn't mean you specifically, but it's obvious some see him as the missing piece.

I do agree with you that adding AJ to our current roster does make us better, but it's highly debatable whether or not that improvement is worth a 1st round pick.

Signing FB Reggie Gilliam no doubt makes us better. He wouldn't have been worth trading a 3rd round pick and paying $10 million annually though.

That's the whole debate with Brown How much do we improve, and what is it worth?

Yes, we should definitely assess how much better chance we have at the SB in 2026 and 2027 with Brown compared to having a 2028 top draft choice.

Let's add a thought. We were lucky to get Lomu. When the draft was in the 20's, I think that the likely #1 could arguably be likely to be of less value than Brown, especially if Brown's market value was less than a 1st and we got a 3rd or 4th back in the trade. If possible, a trade for Brown would likely have been made the day before the draft. Of course, PHI needed to wait until June 1st.

I think that the value of a 2028 first is much less than the value of a 2026 1st or even 2nd and 4th. I really don't think that there is any question about the value of a 2028 1st compared to a 2026 1st.

 

[PatsFan2]

If your stance is that you take the proven player over the unproven draft pick, quit being upset we took N'Keal Harry instead of AJ Brown. The only logical conclusion is to be upset they didn't trade that pick for a veteran.

AJ Brown was an unproven draft pick just like every other player. Why draft him?

I said given the Opportunity! these things happen every year. Stop being sour grapes you'll see if we are still around in 2028 how that Draft is going to suck! First Rounders Flop every year it's not an absolute: stop being so hung up.

 

[PatsFan2]

There really is no way to now that 2028 will be a weak draft. The guys coming out in that draft are 19 years old right now and having grown into their bodies and they have a ton of upperclassmen staying in school for NIL ahead of them.

There is really no way to know.

Trust me a little birdie told me.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

I said given the Opportunity! these things happen every year. Stop being sour grapes you'll see if we are still around in 2028 how that Draft is going to suck! First Rounders Flop every year it's not an absolute: stop being so hungup.

Says the guy that still uses an angry face emoji when mentioning Harry and the 2019 draft.

If given the opportunity to trade that 1st rounder in 2019 for a 30 year old Julio Jones who led the league in receiving yards in 2018, I'm sure you would have been all for it. He had a really good 2019, then injuries started to take him. I don't think that would have been the strongest return on investment. So veterans aren't exactly a 100% success rate either.

 

[PatsFan2]

Says the guy that still uses an angry face emoji when mentioning Harry and the 2019 draft.

If given the opportunity to trade that 1st rounder in 2019 for a 30 year old Julio Jones who led the league in receiving yards in 2018, I'm sure you would have been all for it. He had a really good 2019, then injuries started to take him. I don't think that would have been the strongest return on investment. So veterans aren't exactly a 100% success rate either.

Because only BB couldn't see on tape that Harry was the worse fit. A blind monkey could have made better picks that year: the guy couldn't mentally separate from himself. One of the reasons why BB is no longer Coaching on the Pro Level. That said I already tod you Davante Adams had one of his best years at age 29: it's not exactly a fossil year for a WR.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

Because only BB couldn't see on tape that Harry was the worse fit. A blind monkey could have made better picks that year: the guy couldn't mentally separate from himself. One of the reasons why BB is no longer Coaching on the Pro Level. That said I already tod you Davante Adams had one of his best years at age 29: it's not exactly a fossil year for a WR.

I agree Adams had a great year. But him doing well after signing a modest contract for a WR doesn't strengthen the argument to trade a 1st round pick for Brown. It just makes it sound that much more of an overpay.

 

[PatsFan2]

There really is no way to now that 2028 will be a weak draft. The guys coming out in that draft are 19 years old right now and having grown into their bodies and they have a ton of upperclassmen staying in school for NIL ahead of them.

There is really no way to know.

Trust me stater: you don't need to be a physic or read tea leaves to see the vast desparity between 2027 and 2028 Draft prospects. One word describes the desparity... "Malpractice". To put on in simpler terms it's like the current Patriots WR room compared to the rest of the Leagues.

 

[upstater1]

Because only BB couldn't see on tape that Harry was the worse fit. A blind monkey could have made better picks that year: the guy couldn't mentally separate from himself. One of the reasons why BB is no longer Coaching on the Pro Level. That said I already tod you Davante Adams had one of his best years at age 29: it's not exactly a fossil year for a WR.

Tell that to all the scouts who had Harry picked to go AHEAD of where the Patriots took him. He was scouted HIGHER.

Why in the world do you think Metcalf dropped all the way to 60? That was the Scouts.

Maybe all the NFL's scouts don't know what they're doing.

After all, 6 of the 9 WRs taken in the first 2 rounds busted. And one of the best ones, Metcalf, was passed over 2x by almost everybody.

 

[PatsFan2]

I agree Adams had a great year. But him doing well after signing a modest contract for a WR doesn't strengthen the argument to trade a 1st round pick for Brown. It just makes it sound that much more of an overpay.

Duly noted: but WR beggars can't be choosers: if we had just hit on a couple: we wouldn't be in this predicament. I think passing on that 2028 First Rounder is going to look like a good move two years from now.

 

[PatsFan2]

Tell that to all the scouts who had Harry picked to go AHEAD of where the Patriots took him. He was scouted HIGHER.

Why in the world do you think Metcalf dropped all the way to 60? That was the Scouts.

Maybe all the NFL's scouts don't know what they're doing.

After all, 6 of the 9 WRs taken in the first 2 rounds busted. And one of the best ones, Metcalf, was passed over 2x by almost everybody.

Well if it's was the BB Scouts: I am sure Vrabel exterminated those clowns: who couldn't find their collective ways out of a paper bag.

 

[Water Boy]

Just re-sign diggs

Doubs replaces Diggs. AJB is the dynamic X presence we haven't had since the days of Randy Moss. I'm not calling AJB Moss. No disrespect to Boutte, but AJB is a significant upgrade.

 

[upstater1]

Well if it's was the BB Scouts: I am sure Vrabel exterminated those clowns: who couldn't find their collective ways out of a paper bag.

? Read what I wrote again. Consensus

 

[BennyBledsoe]

Man, WRs should get some of you guys as agents for all the value you place on them. Look at some of the top WRs in the league. There's just as many that were drafted in later rounds than the first.

Even Diggs was a fifth rounder.

And he's not an outlier.

 

[Real fan 02]

I could get behind trading a 1st rounder for Quenton Nelson or someone else along the line, but I still don't see how people can look back at Super Bowl 60 and think AJ Brown would have made all the difference.

The thing with offensive lineman is those guys hardly ever get to free agency Nelson is a dam good player...but we need to stay the course with developing our own.. and maybe we develop some more Sebastian vollmer and Logan mankin types!

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

The thing with offensive lineman is those guys hardly ever get to free agency Nelson is a dam good player...but we need to stay the course with developing our own.. and maybe we develop some more Sebastian vollmer and Logan mankin types!

Absolutely. I'm just saying if it's absolutely necessary to trade our 2028 1st rounder to improve the offense, you can do more good and for longer by trading for a lineman rather than a WR.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I could get behind trading a 1st rounder for Quenton Nelson or someone else along the line, but I still don't see how people can look back at Super Bowl 60 and think AJ Brown would have made all the difference.

He wouldn't have. The O-line was dead to rights after the snap.

You know that certain years the NFL Draft sucks right?? 2027 is going to be a very deep Draft at certain positions. I think 2028 is going to be a very weak Draft: Teams are going to lucky to get a back-up caliber type players in that Draft. Here's the point a 2027 First Rounder is going to a better investment than a 2028 First Rounder. You'll remember Isaiah Wynn/Lose and Cole Strange?? both were abysmal First Rounders: Strange should have Never been one. You take a proven player over an unproven Draft pick when you get the opportunity. IF the Patriots doesn't do it: some other Team will.

While I agree in your take that a proven player is better than the draft pick, there are other variables that come into play. The Rams reportedly backed out pretty quickly from their pursuit of Brown as they are familiar with injuries to knees when they dealt with that with Gurley. Pats also have to carry his salary. Then you have his age. I just can't give up 1st rounder for him. I think that shipped sailed a few years ago.