PostGame Thread 2024 OFFICIAL POSTGAME: Pats lose to the Jags 32-16, fall to 1-6

[Thelonious]

You mean brady?

Brady was drafted, not acquired in a trade or free agency. The draft, you will recall, is after the season, thus not essentially inhibited by this alleged of hoarding cap space. Draftees cost what they cost. The players we need, alas, are rarely if ever so available. I would not object to paying out that cash for middle-of-the-road players, b ut a "proven"player is a player with enough mileage as a rule that his team is more than happy to trade him. There is. no short cut for a team this awful.

 

[ZoisKing]

We need a LT and a RT. 2 tackles.

Might take two years to get them though.

Whos the top OT this year? Will Campbell from LSU? I wonder if hes good enough to pass up a playmaker for.

 

[borg]

I'm excited for this Kraft installed executive group to resign more of the team's core group from this likely 1-16 team.

is electric

 

[reflexblue]

Brady was drafted, not acquired in a trade or free agency. The draft, you will recall, is after the season, not essentially amatter of hoarding cap space. The players we need, alas, are rarely if ever so available.

I know brady was drafted, but who is the shiny object you were referring too

 

[Love The Drake]

Might take two years to get them though.

Whos the top OT this year? Will Campbell from LSU? I wonder if hes good enough to pass up a playmaker for.

Whoever is making the decisions it’s gotta be a trade down from 1, from a team that is giving the world for Hunter.

 

[Thelonious]

I know brady was drafted, but who is the shiny object you were referring too

I expanded my post. I am referring to all the jabber about acquiring a #1 OT or WR via trade or FA.

 

[Tunescribe]

Never heard of a coach calling his team soft . Maybe parcells did it ? Dont know how this helps. These are signs when the coaching staff doesnt have answers and blames it on players toughness.

 

[ralmat55]

Not well enough to earn top of the market contracts. Dugger had his worst season as pro now that he can't play as the 3rd S. Owenu isn't that well received around the league.

He's had one standout year. Why pay him immediately? This has already backfired.

He had a bad season last year. There was no need to pay him.

Last years defense was better, but that isn't saying much because they haven't been good for years and have been hanging on for dear life in Bill's scheme. There's a massive drop off because he's gone. They don't have any headlining talent on defense that scares opposing OC's. Barmore was on his way, but he's not there yet.

I was thinking the last time a Pats’ defense played this badly over a stretch of games was in 2022 after the bye when they also couldn’t stop the run, couldn’t get off the field and gave up too many big plays. At the time, with Bill Belichick as HC and Steve as the play-caller, that stretch was attributed to the injuries sustained by key defensive players.

Coaching provides a team’s floor; talented players determine a team’s ceiling. This team is not good enough, deep enough and too banged up in the trenches for anything else to matter.

 

[TomPatriot]

There was more to it than all of a sudden he was a loser, i believe. For one they traded aj brown.

Cheap owner didn’t want to pay AJ Brown. Imagine that.

 

[PaulThePat]

Ok, so QB is looking promising. Not so ok, everything else looks broken. At the moment this feels like we have several years ahead of having a decent QB and a terrible team i.e. kinda Matt Stafford and Detroit. Well done to all at Gillette for their mind numbing levels of incompetence which has led to this fiasco.

 

[reflexblue]

I expanded my post. I am referring to all the jabber about acquiring a #1 OT or WR via trade or FA.

ok, ill go with the OT, the wr is a shiny object if the qb doesn't have to to throw to him

 

[archstanton543]

Ok, so QB is looking promising. Not so ok, everything else looks broken. At the moment this feels like we have several years ahead of having a decent QB and a terrible team i.e. kinda Matt Stafford and Detroit. Well done to all at Gillette for their mind numbing levels of incompetence which has led to this fiasco.

2 TD's. 2 (should have been) INT's. Lead the team in rushing. That's pretty much what he did last week.

I'm not seeing that as an improvement.

 

[reflexblue]

their soft as kraft mayo is

 

[Love The Drake]

2 TD's. 2 (should have been) INT's. Lead the team in rushing. That's pretty much what he did last week.

I'm not seeing that as an improvement.

He has nothing around him.

 

[lancerman]

Excellent point. What is the penalty for acting now? Kraft's ego is damaged. That's it.

There is no downside. Mayo is clearly in over his head and not head coach material. Wolf has been atrocious. AVP is a disaster. The players aren't playing hard. They are the worst team with the worst coaching staff and the worst GM in the league.

What is the penalty for delay? The Maye opportunity is pissed away, lost ticket sales, lost fans, lost merch sales, becoming a perennial laughing stock of the NFL, Kraft damaging his own legacy beyond repair with folks concluding he must have had little to do with the success of the dynasty, etc. For starters. And Kraft loses his last chance at another SB run. He's old. The longer Kraft delays, the harder it will be to find good people to fill critical roles. I think this path ends with a sale of the team.

People need to get a clue and realize the team being mediocre isn't going to force a sale lol. There have been hot garbage franchises like the Browns and Jaguars have been garbage for decades and they haven't gotten close to a sale. Here are teams in recent memory that got sold

-The Commanders because Dan Snyder had scandal after scandal, every owner hated him being part of the league, and he was so disliked he couldn't even get a new stadium built because governments wouldn't fund it because they didn't want to do business with him.

-The Broncos because Pat Bowlen had a pretty poorly thought out inheritance plan where he basically set up a trust to run the team while one of the kids had to hit a bunch of preset qualifications to become the acting owner. The trust knew one daughter who was close to doing it didn't like them and they kept pushing her off so they could groom a much younger daughter. It ended with lawsuits and the NFL stepping in to end it.

-Panthers because Jerry Richardson has racism issues and he always intended to sell anyways so he got out when he was getting heat.

Kraft isn't selling. Frankly, the league has revenue sharing, so there is a floor to how far an owner can fall. It takes years of losing for major metrics to go down. It takes one good season to get everyone back. There's no danger there.

 

[ZoisKing]

Whoever is making the decisions it’s gotta be a trade down from 1, from a team that is giving the world for Hunter.

I doubt Hunter commands the world. Im hoping the QB room continues to grow and a team like the Giants try to move up.

 

[reflexblue]

Cheap owner didn’t want to pay him. Imagine that.

i also have a vague memory that the owner didn't want to pay his best players either.

 

[JohnJH]

It absolutely won’t happen. RK isn’t going to admit he was wrong….yet. Only way this happens is if it’s worse than we know behind closed doors.

And, Mayo just called the team soft. We the fans already knew that! The problem is, as the old saying goes: "A fish stinks from the head down". Therefor, Mayo, as the HC (a long with the rest of the coaching staff) is soft. And RK is in the same category.

 

[Patsgofor4]

When your HC starts saying stuff like this is the moment you need to fire him! If he hasn’t lost the locker room yet, he is about to!

I can't remember Bill throwing his players under the bus like that in 23 years. Mayo isn't even half a season in. The ship is sinking and he's trying to take off in the only lifeboat.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

Maye is already well above average, and he’s not even close to his ceiling.

Above average with a ****e team around him
Beef up the talent and he only is going to get better