PostGame Thread 2023 OFFICIAL Week 18 PostGame Thread: Patriots Lose to Jets 17-3

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Mac Jones > Zach Wilson
Mac Jones > Tim Boyle
Mac Jones > Trevor Siemian

Jets 7-10
Patriots 4-13

End of story

 

[Ring 6]

What else is there to analyze?


The Jets didn't get good QB play either so why do you think they buried the Pats in last place by 3 games anyway?

We aren’t debating what there record was. We are analyzing WHY

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

Literally no one but you has said “it’s all because of the qb”.
But you know that which is why you deflect.

LV
Indy
LA
Buff and jets second games
Giants
Washington

Look at those games, the scores, what the other 52 players did (good bad or ugly) and substitute average qb play and you are a liar if you say they wouldn’t have won them.

yeah because las vegas with rookie o connel, the jets with wilson siemian or giants with any qb are average qb's lol

their qbs suck the same as the pats
except they aren't as bad talentwise and coachingwise. these are the only different variables

 

[sb1]

We aren’t debating what there record was. We are analyzing WHY

Because the team has more lousy football players than good ones. And lousy coaching. What else is there to analyze?

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

It’s not an excuse it’s analyzing the team.

Tell me which of those 7 games would they have lost if the qb play was average and not awful?

they would have lost every game if the other team had average qb play as well

 

[Grogan14]

4-13. You are exactly what your record says you are.

There is no "but QB but this but that we're a contender!11!" That dog don't hunt.

100% this. No excuses.

 

[Ring 6]

Because the team has more lousy football players than good ones. And lousy coaching. What else is there to analyze?

But does it? What if it has one pronounced, vital weakness?

For example, haven’t you said the chargers are a good team but their coach sucks?

15,16,17th ranked (average) passer rating and this year are Allen, Hurts, Burrow.

If we had one of them in the 7 games I noted rather than 10 or Zappe, you think we don’t win them?

 

[venecol]

yeah because las vegas with rookie o connel, the jets with wilson siemian or giants with any qb are average qb's lol

their qbs suck the same as the pats
except they aren't as bad talentwise and coachingwise. these are the only different variables

Yea, this was the year of the back-up qbs. They all had better records than the lowly Pats. He's just still trying to defend his hilariously bad take thread "The Next 6 Games." Let's give him until the draft to recover.

 

[Grogan14]

The talent level was really bad but can we all agree that the coaching was abysmal?

 

[Ring 6]

they would have lost every game if the other team had average qb play as well

right because the defense kept them from it

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[Ring 6]

Because the team has more lousy football players than good ones. And lousy coaching. What else is there to analyze?

Ive basically proven the qb held back the team. I’ve shown facts. It’s not really even debatable. You just parrot your uneducated unsupported opinion.

 

[venecol]

Now he's just trolling. Is Andy, Justin Ramos?

 

[Ross12]

If only…

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

right because the defense kept them from it

right because our defense kept them from it

you can't be serious, don't you see how little sense this make?

Oh yeah lets swap the pats qb to Joe Burrow and then they beat the tommy devito giants
You can't compare it like that, you need to account for an equal qb on the other team then as well

 

[RobertWeathers]

Ive basically proven the qb held back the team. I’ve shown facts. It’s not really even debatable. You just parrot your uneducated unsupported opinion.

You haven't proven anything. Please stop with that horseshit narrative.

Receivers are below average
Oline was below average passblocking and runblocking.
CBs were below average
TEs were unproductive
LB are exposed in the passing game
Place kicker sucks

Saying an "average QB" comes in and wins 7games with that bag of **** is a pipe dream.

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

Ive basically proven the qb held back the team. I’ve shown facts. It’s not really even debatable. You just parrot your uneducated unsupported opinion.

you have not shown a single fact

 

[h0c2000]

I can't believe it's the end of an era.

Hardy leaving the patriots post game show will leave big shoes to fill.

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

i have found a more cheap version to forget all this

 

[Ring 6]

right because our defense kept them from it

you can't be serious, don't you see how little sense this make?

Oh yeah lets swap the pats qb to Joe Burrow and then they beat the tommy devito giants
You can't compare it like that, you need to account for an equal qb on the other team then as well

No you don’t. Because THOSE ARE THE GAMES WE PLAYED. This years team, the games they played had at least 7 losses that would have been wins with average qb. If we okayed the 49ers 17 times that wouldn’t be the case, but we didn’t.