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Not sure where you're going with this. Are you now minimizing the most dominating TE of his time in Gronk?You're right, sorry, but still, we won without him
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Not sure where you're going with this. Are you now minimizing the most dominating TE of his time in Gronk?You're right, sorry, but still, we won without him
Whuh huh...? I'll try and dumb it down for you:Uh gee, if it was only that, wouldn't the best QB in the game plus the best WR to ever play the game mean an automatic win if all that was missing was a #1? See that's a stupid argument.
12 wins? Not likely but also not impossible. It wouldn't shock me.I can't believe this is (in my mind) thread-worthy, but I saw them picking the Pats to win 7 games on NFLN, and I'm seeing it become the sexy cliche that we have a big collection of 2s and 3s at the offensive skill positions, but no true #1s... and granted, I am buying reports out of camp about Mac10.
So I see this as a 12-win team. I won't go through the usual stupidity of listing 17 games and saying (in June) "this player is really good, so I don't know how the Patriots answer, that game's an L...." that sort of thing.
Instead I want to say some really self-evident things based on watching this team, and football, a few decades.
1) Complaining that there's no true no. 1 RB on this team is exceedingly idiotic. We don't do that. We just compete regularly for the most effective/efficient running back room in the league. I have no doubt this will be a deadly committee, more so than in previous years. This should scare some people.
2) The only relief teams are likely to get from the running game is getting gashed in a passing game, with a QB who was already top half of starters in his rookie year which never happens. If reports of his 2nd year jump promise prove out, he's not just this howdy-doody looking not-Tom back there, he's dangerous. Mediots: stop trying to figure out whether Tua will be good if you give him Tyreek Hill. Mac's going to be good with Tyquan Thornton (or the other 4 or 5 guys ahead of him.)
I think somebody's going to pop up as this huge surprise incredible talent between TT and Tre "I am too a steal" Nixon (See what I did? "I am not..." never mind, I'm pushing 60). But even if not this is the kind of guy who can end up with 30 TD and 4,500 yards while the mediots are raving about Tua to Tyreek in a less potent offense.
2a) If Jonnu Smith bumps up his performance, that's just a sweetener. And let's hope H Henry remains a notch under the true elite... or heck, why not take a step up and prove you belong in that league
D is a huge question mark to me, because I dont know how different or similar we'll look. From personnel looks, it seems like we're loading up on youth and speed (and we're once again losing an all-world corner, what else is new.) If the question is whether we can be more capable of containing a Josh Allen barring a hurricane, the answer is, well, we sure can't be less capable. I'll be interested in seeing how the D pans out. That's one of those thing where you look back at the end of the season, and whatever it was in retrospect it's the truth, as Steve Belichick said recently between bumps of meth. Okay I don't know why I said that, I am sure it's the mullet.
Just please, no losing all coherence after the bye week please? That's something I've thought about a lot: regardless of schedule, we went into the bye in the cat bird's seat. Did we come out of the bye worse than we could have been, i.e., mentally soft, maybe not in good condition? it's not like we lost the QB or anything, but it was like a tale of two seasons.
So, season prediction, 12-5. We'll rise and fall on Mac and I say we're rising.
Its off season everybody just say numbers that total to 17 with a hyphen between them.
No I'm saying that even with the best tight end in the league, the team still won. Because it's more about the team around the QB, but just one dominant offensive playerNot sure where you're going with this. Are you now minimizing the most dominating TE of his time in Gronk?
I'll try to use small words so it makes sense. Lots of QBs have won a superbowl without a great number one receiver. Brady just did it more than anyone else. He was a master at getting the most out of his offensive skill players.Whuh huh...? I'll try and dumb it down for you:
First of all, there's no such thing as an automatic win. Period. Only a moron believes such a thing exists. The margin of error in this League is razor thin. You want to maximize your chances of winning but nothing is "automatic".
Second of all, I think Mac Jones is a fantastic QB, but he is not the GOAT. He is going to need legit weapons in order to bring this team to the next level. Right now he does not have those weapons.
This is interesting. Veeery veeery interesting ...Mac just needs to show he can be clutch. Until he does, nothing else matters. It helps to have a #1 WR.
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Yes and if the Patriots have an all-time great defense, then I’ll gladly admit that a serviceable offense could get the job done.I'll try to use small words so it makes sense. Lots of QBs have won a superbowl without a great number one receiver.
Do you know how stupid you sound? You are literally saying they are better off without a legit #1 than with one. Like they’d be worse if they got a player like Diggs or Chase or Adams.The years he had a legit number one we lost because you could scheme those players away and Brady focused on them. Mac has the same ability to spread the ball around and make pin point accurate throws. You want Mac spreading the ball to a bunch of #2 and 3 guys rather than focusing on one. The defense can't take away that many good players
You have them losing to thr Browns who they beat the pants off last year? The Raiders a loss? The rest are a toss up. I'm waiting to see how fast the defense plays before I start making prognostications
The Patriots aren’t a better team then they were last year, and the AFC is stacked. 7 wins seems about right
If Watson plays I will be extremely surprisedRight. If the defense is better than I think it is right now that could change.
They beat the Browns without their top 2 RBs and with Mayfield not Watson.
Raiders, Bill does not have a good track record against his former coaches and was a playoff team who is vastly improved.
Let me know when the Rams are back to back champs. You sound like one of those fantasy football morons that take stats over team.Yes and if the Patriots have an all-time great defense, then I’ll gladly admit that a serviceable offense could get the job done.
But they don’t even remotely have a defense that could be considered all-time great.
Do you know how stupid you sound? You are literally saying they are better off without a legit #1 than with one. Like they’d be worse if they got a player like Diggs or Chase or Adams.
That is perhaps the dumbest thing I have read on this forum this year. Congratulations. Cooper Kupp almost caught 2,000 yards last year. His team must really suck with the QB focusing on him so much!!
Wrong. They are a better team than last year. But you are correct the AFC is stacked. BB only had 1 season with 7 wins and that was with Cam.
Of course I am a man of honor. And I don't bet pretty much on anything, retirment account excepted (and they do not yet let you just move out of a variety of low-load funds I have easy access to straight iinto vegas bets. Give them a few years though.)12 wins? Not likely but also not impossible. It wouldn't shock me.
But "book it"? No freaking way.
I'm calling you out,Virginian,right here right now!
YOU book it!
Start a thread like this you need to book 10g's on Pat's winning 12 games.
That is,if you're a man of honor.
I assume you are.
LOL..!! Really? That’s the standard you’re trying to set? They have to win *2* Super Bowls to prove that having a #1 WR is a good thing?? LololololllllLet me know when the Rams are back to back champs. You sound like one of those fantasy football morons that take stats over team.
Wtf planet are you living on where the Patriots didn’t have #1 receivers during the championship years?? Troy Brown caught 1,200 yards in 2001 - and this was a day where 1,200 yards put him in the top-10 in the League. Deion Branch, Julien Edelman, Rob Gronkowski are all legit #1’s receiving options and they’re all a helluva lot better than anyone catching passes in Foxboro today.You're literally arguing that the Pats should have said f*ck the way we sin 6 superbowls and had the best dynasty of all time. We would have been better off if we just had that #1 diva WR. It's such a stupid argument, I can't believe your remember to breathe throughout the day.
How do they not look like a better team than last year? They're going to be better at QB, much better at WR, deeper at RB, probably better at TE, and better OL if Trent Brown stays healthy. The D is at worst about the same but should be a little better.The Patriots aren’t a better team then they were last year, and the AFC is stacked. 7 wins seems about right
I'll let you off the hook as it's apparent you don't grasp the meaning of "book it".Of course I am a man of honor. And I don't bet pretty much on anything, retirment account excepted (and they do not yet let you just move out of a variety of low-load funds I have easy access to straight iinto vegas bets. Give them a few years though.)
But you can say "ha ha" if, as most here assume, we miss this mark.