“Smoke” surrounding Pats org, according to grilled cheese sandwich (Remains Unconfirmed)

[signbabybrady]

Ah but Angelo in Everett has mozzarella sticks that will make Grilled Cheese die of jealousy!

Come on now the grilled cheese sandwich is far superior to the mozzarella stick

 

[Clonamery]

No, but you cannot pay a coach to tank and any incentive to a coach to tank falls in the same can't do area.
One of the users that posted the rumor also posted a story about Flores and said read between the lines.

Basically, they are saying Kraft somehow promised to incentivize Mayo to tank.

What that incentive was they won't say (You lose you keep your job?) (You lose we give you a severance on top of your salary?) (Free massages in Florida for life?).
Flores went nowhere and without solid proof it would go nowhere but if Mayo wanted to get back at Kraft and the Patriots dropping a lawsuit saying you were fired because you didn't tank might hurt the organization during a crucial free agency period.
Mayo could also believe the stories that came out after he was fired was Kraft making a negative narrative about him and preventing him from landing another job, thus the desire to get revenge.

If Mayo had a smoking gun then I think legitimate reporters would have reported this already.

All speculation at this point.

Good points here.

 

[archstanton543]

My gut instinct tells me that what happened was roughly along the lines of:

1. Things reach the breaking point with BB
2. Kraft promised Mayo the job, and didn't want to lose him, so he decided to keep his word and name Mayo the coach.
3. Somewhere in the offseason, Kraft realizes that Mayo's struggles are at least partly his/BB's fault (i.e., the lack of mentorship, a lack of connections from being a Pats "lifer").
4. They win the Bengals game, and Kraft gets optimistic.
5. They limp to the bye at 3-10. Even still, Kraft is at worst on the fence about firing Mayo.
6. Mayo craps the bed over Weeks 15-17, ending with l'affaire Stevenson.
7. Kraft decides to fire Mayo.
8. The Patriots win against Buffalo.
9. Kraft makes his decision public.

No. This is too rational. Where does Robyn Glaser fit into all of this!?!

(jk)

 

[Tunescribe]

My gut instinct tells me that what happened was roughly along the lines of:

1. Things reach the breaking point with BB
2. Kraft promised Mayo the job, and didn't want to lose him, so he decided to keep his word and name Mayo the coach.
3. Somewhere in the offseason, Kraft realizes that Mayo's struggles are at least partly his/BB's fault (i.e., the lack of mentorship, a lack of connections from being a Pats "lifer").
4. They win the Bengals game, and Kraft gets optimistic.
5. They limp to the bye at 3-10. Even still, Kraft is at worst on the fence about firing Mayo.
6. Mayo craps the bed over Weeks 15-17, ending with l'affaire Stevenson.
7. Kraft decides to fire Mayo.
8. The Patriots win against Buffalo.
9. Kraft makes his decision public.

None of Mayo's struggles were BB's fault; in fact, I believe just the opposite. My understanding (per reporting by Albert Breer and others) is that Belichick was not directly in the loop re. Kraft's succession plan, which led to Mayo actively undermining him. As Mayo went rogue near the end of Bill's tenure, things between them got frosty. An assistant coach's No. 1 obligation is loyalty to the HC, which Mayo unforgivably violated.

But Kraft made a huge mistake -- which he ultimately admitted -- in elevating Mayo too early. And Mayo made a huge mistake in accepting the job out of sheer hubris.

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

The thing that bugs me about Mayo is the fact that while there’s a lot of smoke on him suing the Pats from wrongful termination, he himself helped oust Belichick to get the HC Job that he wasn’t ready for. So while he probably does have dirt on Kraft, this is like when some of the worst people you know have a valid point but you still don’t feel sorry for them.

 

[Froob]

Listen at the end of the day nothing is real unless SharksofVegas posts it. And for something this big, I might even need Dakota from Braintree to double source it.

Where’s Erika Leah when we needed her the most?

 

[TomPatriot]

My gut instinct tells me that what happened was roughly along the lines of:

1. Things reach the breaking point with BB
2. Kraft promised Mayo the job, and didn't want to lose him, so he decided to keep his word and name Mayo the coach.
3. Somewhere in the offseason, Kraft realizes that Mayo's struggles are at least partly his/BB's fault (i.e., the lack of mentorship, a lack of connections from being a Pats "lifer").
4. They win the Bengals game, and Kraft gets optimistic.
5. They limp to the bye at 3-10. Even still, Kraft is at worst on the fence about firing Mayo.
6. Mayo craps the bed over Weeks 15-17, ending with l'affaire Stevenson.
7. Kraft decides to fire Mayo.
8. The Patriots win against Buffalo.
9. Kraft makes his decision public.

Ok, so let’s say this “leaks.” Who cares? Nothing here is a bombshell that would force Kraft to sell the team or subject the Patriots to any league disciplinary action.

I’m on to watching Vrabel and Co. build the 2025 Patriots. Step 1 is hiring/keeping good experienced coaches. The days of hiring the unqualified are over. That’s mostly been done. Step 2 is acquiring better players through FA and the draft.

 

[TomPatriot]

The thing that bugs me about Mayo is the fact that while there’s a lot of smoke on him suing the Pats from wrongful termination, he himself helped oust Belichick to get the HC Job that he wasn’t ready for. So while he probably does have dirt on Kraft, this is like when some of the worst people you know have a valid point but you still don’t feel sorry for them.

He probably can’t sue for wrongful termination because he’s probably being paid the rest of his contract money.

 

[aluminum seats]

Independent of all the speculation here, if Mayo wants a future career he should just man up, realize he did a ****ty job and move on

If he does that, he will still be respected as a former player, and people will have the grace to say he was just in over his head and he can start to rebuild his career

 

[Dec54]

So allegedly Mayo was ordered to lose. He didn't comply, so he was fired. That's basically saying that he disobeyed orders from his superiors and doesn't think it's okay that he was fired over it. Imagine being at your job where your Boss tells you to do something, but you do the opposite and are totally shocked at the consequences. By the way, I watched some old games of Mayo last night and that guy is ****ing terrible in the open field. Awful.

Meanwhile, the Bills purposely pulled guys out of the game yet that is okay? Them "not having anything to play for" doesn't fly as neither did the Pats.

I'm with you on that one, if we supposedly tanked, then so did the Bills. So I think they should call the game null and void and place us back at No1 in the draft. That's only fair I think.

 

[Triumph]

I told you people that the NFL wants to erase the Patriots BB, Brady and now Kraft.

Bet your house on KC winning next Sunday.

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

He probably can’t sue for wrongful termination because he’s probably being paid the rest of his contract money.

Depends how the contract is written. Being an at will state, Kraft could try but ultimately not succeed with termination with cause for insubordination if something happened. It’s a hypothetical but I guess it’s kind of possible. Maybe Kraft did want Mayo to lose the final game and promised him that if he did he would be back. Verbal agreements are usually not that strong and tough to prove but…

 

[sb1]

Wrongful termination isn’t in the nfl’s domain that’s for the state of Mass to judge

 

[Ross12]

 

[sb1]

I don’t know why but I laughed at the new thread title

 

[borg]

Wonder how the recently departed Kraft Group attorney who was imbedded in Mayo's HC office factors into this potential clusterphuck.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Good God can we slow the f**k down lmao

No. Grilled Cheese has already made it clear that the Patriots are royally screwed for doing really bad stuff. 3 Eggs and Bacon says they are losing all their cap space and won’t be able to sign any free agents. And Bowl of Oatmeal says Goodell is going to hammer them and take all their draft picks because Kraft ordered Mayo to lose and he even failed at that. As Johnny ( 2 Eggs and Ham) Rotten put it so long ago the Patriots “ Got No Futcha”

 

[archstanton543]

he himself helped oust Belichick to get the HC Job that he wasn’t ready for.

Where's the report on that? Site your source, please.

The only person who helped to oust BB is BB himself.

 

[archstanton543]

Wonder how the recently departed Kraft Group attorney who was imbedded in Mayo's HC office factors into this potential clusterphuck.

Not at all.

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

Where's the report on that? Site your source, please.

The only person who helped to oust BB is BB himself.

Every reporter has had different variations of him not exactly being loyal to Bill in his final year. Bill didn’t even know about his own succession plan.