Who do you blame?

Alk · Jan 20, 2006

It's pretty simple really. No in between. Who do you blame for our loss to the Broncos?

Box_O_Rocks · Jan 20, 2006

NEM, that was the worst game he's called, ever!

Alk · Jan 20, 2006

Box_O_Rocks said:
NEM, that was the worst game he's called, ever!

Nicely done. I knew I left something or someone out.

Box_O_Rocks · Jan 20, 2006

huskeralk said:
Nicely done. I knew I left something or someone out.

Something I think, though we've never met so I'm not exactly sure....

Alk · Jan 20, 2006

Okay, so we have 3 "non Patriots" fans so far. Anymore?

Sean Pa Patriot · Jan 20, 2006

Granted the refs,did not help , but come on guys, we turned the ball over 5 times, we would not beat walpole high, let alone Denver in Denver ,. No one to blame but ourselves. I know this weekend sucks, but the pats shot themselves in the foot..

Alk · Jan 20, 2006

Sean Pa Patriot said:
Granted the refs,did not help , but come on guys, we turned the ball over 5 times, we would not beat walpole high, let alone Denver in Denver ,. No one to blame but ourselves. I know this weekend sucks, but the pats shot themselves in the foot..

Dude come on. We would have totally killed Walpole High. Whoever that is.

T-ShirtDynasty · Jan 20, 2006

I'm not voting. I don't blame anybody. I love everyone. My new glaucoma treatment came in today. I shant be voting.

:cool2:

Box_O_Rocks · Jan 20, 2006

T-ShirtDynasty said:
I'm not voting. I don't blame anybody. I love everyone. My new glaucoma treatment came in today. I shant be voting.

:cool2:

200 kilos of personal use, darned judges anyway. :bricks:

T-ShirtDynasty · Jan 20, 2006

Box_O_Rocks said:
200 kilos of personal use, darned judges anyway. :bricks:

But completely prophylactic in nature in my case. I like to be careful.

PATSNUTme · Jan 21, 2006

huskeralk said:
It's pretty simple really. No in between. Who do you blame for our loss to the Broncos?

I thought that you have been saying that Denver really beat us. So you can't vote on your own poll and be honest.

Let's get that turd stirred.

Bill's Girl · Jan 21, 2006

Honestly, it was my fault, I washed my Tom Brady jersey......

Alk · Jan 21, 2006

Bill's Girl said:
Honestly, it was my fault, I washed my Tom Brady jersey......

I'm going to assume that it hadn't been washed before. That's just gross.

Alk · Jan 21, 2006

PATSNUTme said:
I thought that you have been saying that Denver really beat us. So you can't vote on your own poll and be honest.

Let's get that turd stirred.

Again, why am I not on your "dead to me" list. You like to make a big production out of that, yet you're responding to my posts. How does that work? It's simple really, I blame the game on the team for their turnovers. On the same hand, I give the Broncos credit for the victory because they were able to take advantage of our miscues. Had they not, we would have still won the game.

NovaScotiaPatsFan · Jan 21, 2006

It's the Pats fault, simple as that. I also think it's strange that I've heard so many of us laugh at colts fans when they whine about the refs and some of us do the same thing.

Do I think the call was bullcrap? You bet your azz I do! But the Patriots are supposed to come back from advertisty like that, indeed we still had the game in hand until Tom threw that INT at the goal line. I don't blame him, I'm perfectly willing to take the bad with the good, but that was the moment we lost the game right there.

CTPatsFan · Jan 21, 2006

T-ShirtDynasty said:
But completely prophylactic in nature in my case. I like to be careful.

Wow, a hemp condom!? That must be a little on the rough side, no?

Oh, and the Pats pissed it away. They just had some help doing it.

Tunescribe · Jan 21, 2006

Box_O_Rocks said:
NEM, that was the worst game he's called, ever!

Yeah, I had a feeling his pre-game prayer wasn't specific enough in the Pats' favor. Beyond that obvious shortcoming, five turnovers is sort of hard to overcome, three of them especially -- Brady's int. to Bailey, and the two fumbles by Faulk and Hobbs. Of course the bogus pass interference call against Asante was outrageous ... Oh man I need to stop. I'm getting angry again.

PATSNUTme · Jan 21, 2006

huskeralk said:
Again, why am I not on your "dead to me" list. You like to make a big production out of that, yet you're responding to my posts. How does that work? It's simple really, I blame the game on the team for their turnovers. On the same hand, I give the Broncos credit for the victory because they were able to take advantage of our miscues. Had they not, we would have still won the game.

It was a glitch when I did an update on the trolls.

It works this way. I put you back on when I feel like it. And now I feel like it.

upstater1 · Jan 21, 2006

I blame Tom Ashworth, he didn't protect the QB on the Bailey INT.

Signed,

Tom Manning.

Ring 6 · Jan 21, 2006

The bottom line is you win or you lose. There is no in between.
Whatever obstacles you face, which include:
Injuries
Bad plays, by your good or bad players
Stupid coaching decisions
Weather
Illness
Bad matchups vs the opponent
Fluky plays
Poor refereeing

You must overcome. The Patriots did not, therefore, the blame lies with the players and coaches.
Its very consistent. When you win, no matter how, you are winners and get credit for it. When you lose, you get blame.

There were over 100 football plays in that game. No matter how many were 'bad luck' there were a ton more to make to win the game. The Broncos did, we didnt.

I tend to believe that if all of those calls had gone our way, while you can project that:
-The last 2 minutes of the half never even happen if we dont fumble not once but twice.
-They would have been less devastating without the bad calls
-The Bailey fumble could have taken 7 points off the board, the Brown fumble 3 more

That doesnt mean we win the game. I believe the Broncos won the game aided by some fortunate calls, but they would have won without them.

Consider this. What mistakes did they make? Whatever you take away from their scoring you are still left with us not scoring enough to win.

IMO, trying to single out a few plays that seem to be 'not the Patriots fault' and project that into we should have won, belittles all the wins that came before.

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