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Family · Apr 7, 2026

Guys off the practice squad (and street) dressed before him.

Wozzy · Apr 7, 2026

rkarp1 said:
I am not sure this is a stud OT:

Patrick Paul is an offensive tackle for the Miami Dolphins who earned a 66.2 overall PFF grade in the 2025 season, 45th among 89 qualified offensive tackles. He played 975 offensive snaps on the season.
His PFF pass-blocking grade of 74.4 ranked 28th among 89 qualified offensive tackles. His run-blocking grade of 58.5 ranked 63rd at the position.
He allowed 25 total pressures in pass protection. That total included 4 sacks and 2 hits allowed to opposing pass rushers. He was flagged for 9 penalties over the course of the season.

PFF is sht

PFF told you Chuks Okorafor was good

They told us Stephon Gilmore wasn’t, or that he was average at best.

Maybe stop listening to the math nerds at PFF

OldEngland · Apr 7, 2026

He's signed for 26 and 27 at low cost. Is a RG but was a RT in college, so maybe has some emergency positional flexibility. Fractured his fibula with a high ankle sprain early in his rookie season. Saying that he was a healthy scratch nearly all of last year.

Is he a acceptable back up, future starter, or won't make the team out of training camp? No idea.

However I am expecting some camp competiiton from the draft, and him having to seriously fight for his roster spot. The Pats have met with a whole load of IOL draft prospects that we know of (DE is the only positions with more, and CB is close), some of the IOL are ranked as low 2nd rounders on consensus boards

rkarp1 · Apr 7, 2026

Wozzy said:
PFF is sht

PFF told you Chuks Okorafor was good

They told us Stephon Gilmore wasn’t, or that he was average at best.

Maybe stop listening to the math nerds at PFF

I said Chuks was a good low cost change of scenery signing. he did play well at one time for Pitts
Gilmore did play poorly for Buff.
there are no more math nerds at PFF, but at that time, they were much more informed than you, or anyone else that watches games from their living room.

Ring 6 · Apr 7, 2026

rkarp1 said:
if true, why is he still here?

Because we had an extra roster spot? Because he is young? Because our ol depth was awful? How is it not true? They literally refused to put him on the field.

PatsFan2 · Apr 7, 2026

Family said:
Guys off the practice squad (and street) dressed before him.

Don't you just love the fellowship of the hopefulls.

Ross12 · Apr 7, 2026

Ian said:
He's been snake-bitten with injuries, which is really going to make this camp a make-or-break situation for him. Sort of crazy because he played opposite Fashanu at Penn State and was really good, it's not like he wasn't a talented player. While they might have wanted to transition him to left tackle (and he claimed he was comfortable with that after he was drafted), right tackle seems like where he could have fit. He just hasn't been able to stay healthy.

They still need depth at tackle, so he'll have that going for him if he can at least have a good camp. Noticed on the transaction report that Munford recently visited with Tennessee and remains out there. So if nothing else, Wallace might still be a depth guy, which they do need given that Munford hasn't been brought back and Lowe went to San Francisco.

I thought it was weird that they put him at guard and didn't just make him a right tackle again considering they need depth there just as bad and it's his natural position. He was solid in college for multiple years, it's kind of a head scratcher as to why he can't be a decent backup RT in the NFL at the minimum. Bouncing him around positions can't have helped.

Ian · Apr 7, 2026

rkarp1 said:
I said Chuks was a good low cost change of scenery signing. he did play well at one time for Pitts
Gilmore did play poorly for Buff.
there are no more math nerds at PFF, but at that time, they were much more informed than you, or anyone else that watches games from their living room.

Still can't believe they let Okorafor sit across from them and convince them he wasn't the head-case he'd already proven to be. The fact that he picked up his ball and bailed as fast as he did was crazy. Ironic that he ended up with the Jets, although I didn't follow closely enough to know how that played out last year.

Wozzy · Apr 7, 2026

rkarp1 said:
I said Chuks was a good low cost change of scenery signing. he did play well at one time for Pitts
Gilmore did play poorly for Buff.
there are no more math nerds at PFF, but at that time, they were much more informed than you, or anyone else that watches games from their living room.

Anything that tells you Chuks Okorafor is good and Stephon Gilmore isn’t is sht.

Clonamery · Apr 7, 2026

Ian said:
Still can't believe they let Okorafor sit across from them and convince them he wasn't the head-case he'd already proven to be. The fact that he picked up his ball and bailed as fast as he did was crazy. Ironic that he ended up with the Jets, although I didn't follow closely enough to know how that played out last year.

45 snaps on STs for the year. That's it. He re-signed with the losers in March.

Hugepatsfan · Apr 7, 2026

They saw something enough in him to keep him on the roster. They also saw something in him that made them not want to play him at all. Maybe they see developmental potential but all signs point to someone who the clock is ticking on and eventually will be a camp cut. Guys have turned around their careers in that position before though so we'll see. They've cut a pretty decent list of players at positions they lack depth who actually contributed marginally and yet Wallace is still here so I guess that maybe counts for something. But you'd be hard-pressed to convince me there are any significant signs of life here.

mgteich · Apr 7, 2026

Wallace seems to be an inexpensive #9 OL who can play OG or OT in an emergency.

Perhaps he could be a regular backup at OG or OT. We just don't know.

For now, he is our #2 IOL backup (with Brown). As it is, he would rarely be active unless he is viewed as a backup at one of the OT positions. But that is a reasonable role for the #9 OL.

PatsFan2 · Apr 7, 2026

mgteich said:
Wallace seems to be an inexpensive #9 OL who can play OG or OT in an emergency.

Perhaps he could be a regular backup at OG or OT. We just don't know.

For now, he is our #2 IOL backup (with Brown). As it is, he would rarely be active unless he is viewed as a backup at one of the OT positions. But that is a reasonable role for the #9 OL.

No he can't he stinks.

Ross12 · Apr 7, 2026

Hugepatsfan said:
They saw something enough in him to keep him on the roster. They also saw something in him that made them not want to play him at all. Maybe they see developmental potential but all signs point to someone who the clock is ticking on and eventually will be a camp cut. Guys have turned around their careers in that position before though so we'll see. They've cut a pretty decent list of players at positions they lack depth who actually contributed marginally and yet Wallace is still here so I guess that maybe counts for something. But you'd be hard-pressed to convince me there are any significant signs of life here.

Seemed like Vrabel treated a lot of the young guys, both ones he helped draft and ones he "inherited", as one bucket of prospects. There were a bunch of guys who seemed like maybe they needed development, but were at risk of being poached, so Vrabel kept them on the 53 but did not really play them at all. A few guys off the top of my head:

- G/T Wallace
- ED Swinson
- TE Dippre
- WR Chism (though he a fair bit of ST work)

If I had to guess, these guys were "red shirting" and Vrabel didn't actually want to use them much unless absolutely necessary, and hoped to get more out of them in 2026 after a year of learning and conditioning.

That said, Wallace had a lot of reps and experience in college plus now two years in the NFL, so I don't know how much more room for "development" there is, but I guess it makes some sense if they were trying to move him to a new position.

mgteich · Apr 7, 2026

Ross12 said:
Seemed like Vrabel treated a lot of the young guys, both ones he helped draft and ones he "inherited", as one bucket of prospects. There were a bunch of guys who seemed like maybe they needed development, but were at risk of being poached, so Vrabel kept them on the 53 but did not really play them at all. A few guys off the top of my head:

- G/T Wallace
- ED Swinson
- TE Dippre
- WR Chism (though he a fair bit of ST work)

If I had to guess, these guys were "red shirting" and Vrabel didn't actually want to use them much unless absolutely necessary, and hoped to get more out of them in 2026 after a year of learning and conditioning.

That said, Wallace had a lot of reps and experience in college plus now two years in the NFL, so I don't know how much more room for "development" there is, but I guess it makes some sense if they were trying to move him to a new position.

Wallace, Swinson, Dippre and Chism is good start for potential 2026 developmental players. We might even add Minor. Hopefully, we
can also add Larison and Lampe.

Family · Apr 7, 2026

mgteich said:
Wallace seems to be an inexpensive #9 OL who can play OG or OT in an emergency.

Perhaps he could be a regular backup at OG or OT. We just don't know.

For now, he is our #2 IOL backup (with Brown). As it is, he would rarely be active unless he is viewed as a backup at one of the OT positions. But that is a reasonable role for the #9 OL.

The second sentence is true, but the other two will not be after the draft.

Maybe he steps up, but right now looking at the future he's a camp cut.

mgteich · Apr 7, 2026

Family said:
The second sentence is true, but the other two will not be after the draft.

Maybe he steps up, but right now looking at the future he's a camp cut.

Do you expect us to draft an IOL with one of our first five picks?

We have 6 OL's (starters plus Brown).

We will surely draft an OT, and either draft a second OT or keep Bryant.
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You expect us to also draft an IOL who will replace Wallace. Perhaps, perhaps not. I'm certainly fine with drafting an IOL, but these six positions seem to be of higher priority.
OT
EDGE
S
2nd EDGE
ILB
TE

Ross12 · Apr 7, 2026

mgteich said:
Wallace, Swinson, Dippre and Chism is good start for potential 2026 developmental players. We might even add Minor. Hopefully, we
can also add Larison and Lampe.

Larison and Lampe are two more who were "kept" but on IR so obviously got less development. Curious what role Lampe plays since they signed a true blue fullback in Gilliam. Do they roster two, or does Lampe become more of a tight end/"halfback"? Westover is still kicking around as well.

203Pat · Apr 7, 2026

Outside of Maye that was a disastrous draft. It produced on of the few former Patriots I refuse to root for in Jalynn Polk.

Ian · Apr 7, 2026

PatsFan2 said:
No he can't he stinks.

I know you're a huge fan of "(insert player here) stinks", but you have to hope that they can develop Wallace further and at least get him on the depth chart. They absolutely need depth. Just because a guy isn't a top-tier player, role players often become important, and they need help there. And that goes across the board.

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