Is Harold Landry done in NE?

[Pape]

Pardon my add on. But we really don't need the Ghost of Harold out there not making plays.

He shouldn't be brought back until the knee is fully healed... week 8 9 10 or whatever... let another player take those reps until he is good & ready to go... don't need a Gimpy McKnee out there

 

[PatsFan2]

Very intrigued to see Elijah Ponder this year in a regular capacity.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Landry will be out there. Vrabel will manage the knee if necessary. Knees can take 6 months, so it might be a natural healing timeframe. We will see, but they definitely need another EDGE and they are convinced that Landry will be more than Swinson was going to be.

 

[Family]

Landry will be out there. Vrabel will manage the knee if necessary. Knees can take 6 months, so it might be a natural healing timeframe. We will see, but they definitely need another EDGE and they are convinced that Landry will be more than Swinson was going to be.

There's a lot of mileage on them knees.

 

[PatsFan2]

Landry will be out there. Vrabel will manage the knee if necessary. Knees can take 6 months, so it might be a natural healing timeframe. We will see, but they definitely need another EDGE and they are convinced that Landry will be more than Swinson was going to be.

A LB with a Knee problem is alike a WR with one; it's just a matter of time. What happens when a gimpy knee LB get's run at?? They end up in the medical tent. I'm not optimistic about Landry.

 

[TommyD4207]

Landry will be out there. Vrabel will manage the knee if necessary. Knees can take 6 months, so it might be a natural healing timeframe. We will see, but they definitely need another EDGE and they are convinced that Landry will be more than Swinson was going to be.

All depends on the injury.
Landry's not recovering from a tear or anything, he's bone-on-bone - that **** doesn't get better, it's all pain management until the inevitable end.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

A LB with a Knee problem is alike a WR with one; it's just a matter of time. What happens when a gimpy knee LB get's run at?? They end up in the medical tent. I'm not optimistic about Landry.

There is no reason to be optimistic, but he could be servicable. We don't know. Probably not what he was, but the staff thinks he is better than putting in time with Swinson.

 

[mgteich]

There is no reason to be optimistic, but he could be servicable. We don't know. Probably not what he was, but the staff thinks he is better than putting in time with Swinson.

Like Tavai last year, if he is serviceable, he would be a better choice that say counting on Hutchins.

It costs nothing to play Landry this year.

After the season, the team will end his contract which pays him $14.5M of new money for 2027. The $4M of dead money is irrelevant, just what's left of accounting for his signing bonus.

If he is fully recovered, he could be re-signed to a new, lower value contract, more likely not.

 

[Ring 6]

All depends on the injury.
Landry's not recovering from a tear or anything, he's bone-on-bone - that **** doesn't get better, it's all pain management until the inevitable end.

He isn’t bone on bone. Bone on bone requires a knee replacement and you can barely walk.

 

[OldEngland]

He isn’t bone on bone. Bone on bone requires a knee replacement and you can barely walk.

Interestingly enough your statement isn't quite true. 15-40% of severe grade 4 osteoarthritic arthritic changes in a knee (bone on bone) are completely asymptomatic. However you are correct that many others can have severe pain and disability and require a prosthetic knee. The correlation between radiographic findings and symptoms in musculoskeletal conditions is poor.

I can't imagine it is helpful to have severe changes as a professional sportsman in the nfl though. They also have a habit of flaring up if you twist them up and bang them, and they take ages to settle again.

 

[OldEngland]

All depends on the injury.
Landry's not recovering from a tear or anything, he's bone-on-bone - that **** doesn't get better, it's all pain management until the inevitable end.

Do we actually know the injury?

We know he had offseason surgery, and there aren't exactly many surgeries for severe knee bone on bone arthritis in people under 50.

A complete guess is he probably some mensical tears in there as well as some degenerative cartilage. They can just trim and suture the meniscus which is a 3 month recovery, but sometimes they drill holes in the cartilage to try and promote healing, or even try and graft a bit of good cartilage on. That's a much longer rehab timeline - 6 months plus. The research suggests return to sport rates are pretty good though.

I've had hope for Landry all offseason, but haven't really had any good news yet.

 

[TommyD4207]

Do we actually know the injury?

We know he had offseason surgery, and there aren't exactly many surgeries for severe knee bone on bone arthritis in people under 50.

A complete guess is he probably some mensical tears in there as well as some degenerative cartilage. They can just trim and suture the meniscus which is a 3 month recovery, but sometimes they drill holes in the cartilage to try and promote healing, or even try and graft a bit of good cartilage on. That's a much longer rehab timeline - 6 months plus. The research suggests return to sport rates are pretty good though.

I've had hope for Landry all offseason, but haven't had really much good news yet though.

From what I've been told, it's the first thing, and the only real issue is that he's had it done multiple times throughout his career.

 

[PatsFan2]

From what I've been told, it's the first thing, and the only real issue is that he's had it done multiple times throughout his career.

Yikes! will Landry be able to walk after Football?? I really hope somebody is giving him good advice. We've seen a lot of Players who wished they had walked away earlier because of those chronic injuries.

 

[TommyD4207]

Yikes! will Landry be able to walk after Football?? I really hope somebody is giving him good advice. We've seen a lot of Players who wished they had walked away earlier because of those chronic injuries.

I mean, he'll probably end up getting that knee replacement Andy was talking about.

 

[OldEngland]

He shouldn't be brought back until the knee is fully healed... week 8 9 10 or whatever... let another player take those reps until he is good & ready to go... don't need a Gimpy McKnee out there

I agree with this. The starting defence is a elite veteran unit in pretty much every position but olb/edge. Landry has been a 8-12 sack/year guy for several years. A healthy (or even 90%) Landry in the rotation down the stretch, with his leadership to the young guys like Ponder, Jacas and Hutchins can only be beneficial.

 

[Pape]

I agree with this. The starting defence is a elite veteran unit in pretty much every position but olb/edge. Landry has been a 8-12 sack/year guy for several years. A healthy (or even 90%) Landry in the rotation down the stretch, with his leadership to the young guys like Ponder, Jacas and Huthins can only be beneficial.

Exactly. Let him fully heal. no sense in rushing him back, especially considering the first four teams we face are the hardest part of the schedule because its one tough team after another - sea pitt jax & buff...

We have a week 10 game vs detroit then the bye - a potential week 12 return makes a lot of sense...

 

[Brotherblues]

He shouldn't be brought back until the knee is fully healed... week 8 9 10 or whatever... let another player take those reps until he is good & ready to go... don't need a Gimpy McKnee out there

He should have been shelved for a long time after that Saints game.

 

[Family]

He isn’t bone on bone. Bone on bone requires a knee replacement and you can barely walk.

Players have played with bone on bone even at a high level.

Elgin Baylor was the most famous.

I think Reggie Bush too.

 

[Hyped]

He will play, he will not play, and he is on his last year.

Gotcha, Folks.

 

[TommyD4207]

He will play, he will not play, and he is on his last year.

Gotcha, Folks.

I mean, he's definitely on his last year - I think that's pretty universally understood.
How much they get out of him remains to be seen.