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Interesting they'd trade for Rouse in that case.

Unless this dude actually can't play. He's not *good*, but I didn't think he was in the 'can't play' camp.
Not sure, but worth noting that Neal, a 2022 first-round pick for the Giants, didn't have his option picked up last year and ended up signing a vet-minimum deal with the Giants this year.
 
fair enough
I recalled the on-the day discussions incorrectly.
Of course, now we all accept the major reach and congratulate staff.
TIL a 5th round pick is a 'major reach'.

Also, he made the team.
 
TIL a 5th round pick is a 'major reach'.

Also, he made the team.
I acknowledge that I was wrong at the time.

However, I view him a 6th round value that made the team, certainly a fine pick. Kudos the coach that provided the input.

And, yes, I probably shouldn't be calling anyone after the 4th a "major reach". I am just recalling where Prunty was on the various big boards at the time.
 
I acknowledge that I was wrong at the time.

However, I view him a 6th round value that made the team, certainly a fine pick. Kudos the coach that provided the input.
So...taking what you value as a 6th rounder...in the 5th round...is a 'major reach'?
 

I was wrong about him: what a disappointment.

 
So...taking what you value as a 6th rounder...in the 5th round...is a 'major reach'?

The ratings by the mediots was late DAY 3. Please list any Big Board where he was in the top 200.

FROM GOOGLE AI
No major draft analyst rated Karon Prunty in the top 200; instead, he had a consensus big board rank of 512 and was generally ranked outside the top 50 cornerbacks (such as 57th on Dane Brugler's board). [1, 2]
The New England Patriots selected Prunty 171st overall in the fifth round of the 2026 NFL Draft, which was considered a significant reach relative to public media rankings and consensus boards. However, the team's internal evaluation was much higher, supported by a pre-draft top-30 visit. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Again, kudos to the coach who pushed for him.
 

I watched Pyburn a lot at Florida….great motor and smart player….pats should take a flyer on him if he doesn’t return to college which I still don’t understand how they are allowing this …?
 
The ratings by the mediots was late DAY 3. Please list any Big Board where he was in the top 200.

FROM GOOGLE AI
No major draft analyst rated Karon Prunty in the top 200; instead, he had a consensus big board rank of 512 and was generally ranked outside the top 50 cornerbacks (such as 57th on Dane Brugler's board). [1, 2]
The New England Patriots selected Prunty 171st overall in the fifth round of the 2026 NFL Draft, which was considered a significant reach relative to public media rankings and consensus boards. However, the team's internal evaluation was much higher, supported by a pre-draft top-30 visit. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Again, kudos to the coach who pushed for him.
You know the 5th round is Day 3, yes?

You put a 6th round value on him yourself. They took him in the 5th round. I'm just really curious why you think this is a 'major reach', as you put it.

(Also, side note, you don't need AI to give answers, you actually know some stuff. Don't go full Triumph.)
 
I watched Pyburn a lot at Florida….great motor and smart player….pats should take a flyer on him if he doesn’t return to college which I still don’t understand how they are allowing this …?
Good or bad it appears some colleges will allow them to come back? All I know is...if it's allowed then it should only apply to UDFA's who have marginal if that NFL talent. Drafted players....status quo.
 
Good or bad it appears some colleges will allow them to come back? All I know is...if it's allowed then it should only apply to UDFA's who have marginal if that NFL talent. Drafted players....status quo.
Ok Zum...what if he goes back to college...is ALL-PRO starter...should he go back in the draft? And where? What if his projection is 1st round?
 
The ratings by the mediots was late DAY 3. Please list any Big Board where he was in the top 200.
Prunty was the exact kind of prospect that the media misses—he bounced from program to program and didn’t get a combine invite. But he had multiple top-30 visits, so it’s a fair bet that some other teams ranked him higher than media big boards did.
 
How can anybody be a 6th round value when an NFL team drafted him in the 5th round? If you were an NFL talent evaluator and rated him a 6th, you'd be wrong. NE took them in the 5th. You would not get him.

Outsider "evaluations" are guesses about prospective realities -- that is, actual picks. His "prospective" value by anybody -- here, in a competitor's war room, anywhere -- is not reality. There's no inherent "fifthness" or "sixthness." It's like going to Kalshi and betting that Shroedinger's cat was alive after a trusted source says the radioactive pellet only has a 40% likelihood of killing the cat, not 50%. Then you open the box and the cat is dead, and you want to collect on your bet because you rate him as a living cat who happens to have all the characteristics of a dead one.

On a related note...

This guy says that 60-65% of 5th rounders, vs. 50-55% of 6ths, make the roster...

I'll just leave that there - it doesn't specifically support the above point, it just looks like it's useful to get a perspective on how different 5ths and 6ths are/are not.
 

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