Patriots Player Departure Patriots are sending WR Kayshon Boutte to the Texans for safety Jaylen Reed and a draft pick

[n1997y]

Very good thread, thanks for finding and sharing that.

From Tanner’s analysis I’m thinking that Reed sounds like what we were hoping the ideal manifestation of Marte Mapu would turn out to be.

To add another thought… Reed played a ton of single-high/two-high safety as well. He wasn’t solely your traditional strong safety. They were moving him all over the defense... slot, to linebacker, to free safety, etc. That versatility is probably the most interesting part of his game.

 

[Uptown]

Very good thread, thanks for finding and sharing that.

From Tanner’s analysis I’m thinking that Reed sounds like what we were hoping the ideal manifestation of Marte Mapu would turn out to be.

Agreed. I mentioned how his frame & skillset remind me of Adrian Phillips. He played very well for us during his tenure here (2020-23). Versatile player with special teams value. It’s funny how Pro Football Reference lists him as a DE during the ‘23 season. ??..

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PhilAd00.htm

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

While this team is lacking depth in several areas, WR certainly was not one of them. They had too much depth there. The loss of Boutte is manageable while adding depth at safety, which was a little weak after the top two guys. A linebacker or edge player would've been better, but it's still a slightly healthier overall roster.

"We can't develop wrs"... Lost Meyers and let this one walk for the two year aj brown rental. Got rid of the wrong wr

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Sounds like Jameis...bah

 

[upstater1]

OK

Vrabel has judged that Boutte's worth to the patriots is the same as a backup safety.

I see no reason to disagree.

The reason comes when Doubs or Brown are injured. If they make it thru all 17 games, you lucked out.

Whatever happens though he's certainly worth more than a backup safety.

 

[n1997y]

Thank for sharing that. It’s interesting. I think Vrabel and Kuhr are going to be able to do a lot with him.

 

[Ring 6]

My theory is he might like those guys as okay depth but doesn’t see them as future starters. In the playoffs reed played 82% of the defensive snaps on possibly the league’s best defense and has looked good thus far in preseason per reports and pff(take that fwiw). Reed probably has more potential there and we didn’t have a succession plan to byard. Not the most pressing need but at the end of the day it was a need looking down the road.

I can’t imagine he is even keen on them as depth. If we cut all 3 they’d be unemployed going forward

 

[Ring 6]

OK

Vrabel has judged that Boutte's worth to the patriots is the same as a backup safety.

I see no reason to disagree.

Vrabel makes mistakes too.

 

[WazzuWheatfarmer]

Good call on this one Wozzy. I’m not a huge fan of it, but I trust the coaches and I’m encouraged that they obviously think highly enough of the young guys to trade Boutte away. Hoping Reed can turn into something.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

Thank for sharing that. It’s interesting. I think Vrabel and Kuhr are going to be able to do a lot with him.

I wanted to keep Boutte for an insurance policy in case of injuries. I also stated recently that he was 4 or 5 on our WR tree. He had 30 catches and 500 yds last year with every opportunity to be WR2. Although he had some long great catches he went invisible at times. 9 catches in 4 playoff games. I wanted a 3 for him. But we always over rate our own players. This keeps Chism on the team and gives Williams his shot.
Good Luck to Boutte. Now I know why Vrabel was talking about lack of depth. He knew the trade was coming and he could develop this kid for Byard’s role next season. Plus ST contributor
I was doing Ian’s slider predict offense totals. I couldn’t get Boutte much yds with new additions. Started to realize he needed to be traded

 

[mgteich]

A 7th? What a ****ing joke. Reed better be starter caliber.

As a rookie, Reed started one game before being injured. He started 2 playoff games.

He is a keeper and should be at least our #3 this year and next. He also played a lot of ST's last year.

 

[patfanken]

This is not the way to look at things.


If a WR goes down, it will be on Kyle Williams to reproduce what Boutte did last year. Otherwise, it'll be a downgrade.

I don't see this as a good representation of reality. Williams and Boutte have different skill sets. One guy is a solid downfield contested catch guy, the other can outrun or out quick a defender. Boutte is what he is. Williams has the higher ceiling. We HOPE Williams will give us around 500 yds in a backup roll behind Doubs and AJ this season, anything more is a bonus

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

My theory is he might like those guys as okay depth but doesn’t see them as future starters. In the playoffs reed played 82% of the defensive snaps on possibly the league’s best defense and has looked good thus far in preseason per reports and pff(take that fwiw). Reed probably has more potential there and we didn’t have a succession plan to byard. Not the most pressing need but at the end of the day it was a need looking down the road.

Byard is more of a FS. Reed is more of a SS or box safety. A good pass rusher. Not really equivalent to Byard.

 

[Uptown]

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Reed was unlikely to make the Texans roster so we could have picked him up on waivers. Essentially we gave up Boutte for a seventh round pick. Not great.

Last year they could get just about anyone they wanted on waivers b/c they had the #4 position throughout the preseason. This year, thanks to making the Super Bowl, the only team they've had priority over is Seattle.

 

[brdmaverick]

Look, I understand they had a crowded receiver room, but Boutte seemed too valuable to just 'give away'

 

[doesntmatter1]

After years and I mean YEARS of watching wrs not work out here we are seemingly just tossing guys that actually produce. Guys like Bourne, Diggs, and now Boutte. Times are changing.

 

[TommyD4207]

Look, I understand they had a crowded receiver room, but Boutte seemed too valuable to just 'give away'

I don't think it was a give away.
What do you think Kayshon Boutte was worth?

I really liked Boutte as a player, and because of his age, I thought he still has plenty of room to improve.

Reality, however, is he has 78 catches in 3 years, and has played 34 of a possible 50 career games. He can only play on the boundary, he can't play in the slot. He doesn't play special teams. He was looking for a serious long-term deal, not a high-guarantee short-term contract - after the Patriots just brought in two receivers who are objectively better than he is.

So, what do you think he was worth, if you think the Patriots just gave him away, considering they brought in a young safety, under contract for two years with starting experience, when they had zero depth behind Byard and Woodson? Worth enough for you to call it a 'give away'?

 

[n1997y]

Look, I understand they had a crowded receiver room, but Boutte seemed too valuable to just 'give away'

And that’s why they traded him for a promising young starting safety.