Curran: "In my estimation... [Gonzo would like to] be treated as if he's at the table in 2027." [previous title: "say goodbye to gonzo"]

[Triumph]

IF Gonzo was traded you can forget about another Super Bowl anytime soon.

Vrabel can leave Gonzo alone on any WR in the NFL.

 

[Huckleberry1]

So, are we gonna pay the man or not?

IMO, his benchmark is the Witherspoon deal. Match that or offer a little less because he was drafted AFTER Witherspoon.

This is not complicated. I think it is just his agent juggling two players….

I think the parameters are clear and it will get done in the next week or so.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Gonzalez played great in the Supet Bowl, Bedard is an ignoramus.

 

[ScottishPatriots]

IF Gonzo was traded you can forget about another Super Bowl anytime soon.

Vrabel can leave Gonzo alone on any WR in the NFL.

People forget the actual timeline and like to remember like we didn't suffer letting elite players in the secondary go, after Asante left after the 2007 season the secondary was mostly a complete disaster by Patriots standards in 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 until Talib came in 2012 the Patriots massively lacked that key player in the secondary who could get a stop when it was really needed in a big game.

I remember 2011 being especially bad teams seemed to sleepwalk into the 20s on the Patriots defense that year.

You remove Gonzalez from this secondary and the whole thing falls apart, Carlton Davis is swiss cheese as a number one corner, Marcus Jones can't play on the outside and anyone else covering a #2 WR on this roster seems problematic and that's before an injury happens we know Davis gets banged up imagine he goes down you take Gonzalez and Davis out you've gone from one of the best secondaries in the league to one of the worst overnight.

 

[Vindicate]

People forget the actual timeline and like to remember like we didn't suffer letting elite players in the secondary go, after Asante left after the 2007 season the secondary was mostly a complete disaster by Patriots standards in 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 until Talib came in 2012 the Patriots massively lacked that key player in the secondary who could get a stop when it was really needed in a big game.

I remember 2011 being especially bad teams seemed to sleepwalk into the 20s on the Patriots defense that year.

You remove Gonzalez from this secondary and the whole thing falls apart, Carlton Davis is swiss cheese as a number one corner, Marcus Jones can't play on the outside and anyone else covering a #2 WR on this roster seems problematic and that's before an injury happens we know Davis gets banged up imagine he goes down you take Gonzalez and Davis out you've gone from one of the best secondaries in the league to one of the worst overnight.

Those early 2010s have me shook. It may have caused me to overvalue good CB's. There is nothing more annoying that 3rd and 10 being continually converted on blown coverage.

 

[Triumph]

Those early 2010s have me shook. It may have caused me to overvalue good CB's. There is nothing more annoying that 3rd and 10 being continually converted on blown coverage.

Pats CBs allowed a 6 yard cushion and opposing QBs picked the NE apart like a thanksgiving turkey.

 

[captain stone]

Why do you say that?

To be clear, the entire nature of sports fandom is ridiculous but, once we accept that we all care tremendously about the performance of the arbitrary collection of athletes who play roughly half their games geographically local to where most of us are from, it makes logical sense to get emotional over contract negotiations because those negotiations will directly impact the quality of the team.

Yep; to be in the championship-winning business, you first have to be in the money-management business. And when you operate under a salary cap, every dollar going one way means that it isn't going the other way. Most players & their agents realize this; the others learn eventually, one way or another...

 

[upstater1]

Yep; to be in the championship-winning business, you first have to be in the money-management business. And when you operate under a salary cap, every dollar going one way means that it isn't going the other way. Most players & their agents realize this; the others learn eventually, one way or another...

You need a football strategist to put the priorities in place.

CB is one of those positions that ranges over huge swaths of the field. The most yards are gained in the passing game. This is why QBs, WRs, CBs are highly valued positions, along with LTs. This is where the bread is buttered. And of course, pass rushers who can get to the QB, they too impact the passing game.

But RBs, TEs, DTs and LBs make much less, because they are more involved in the run game and the short passing game.

If you look at each position by how many yards they make/give up, the money flows to the positions with the most yards. QB>WR>Pass Rusher> tie between CB and LT