Curran: "In my estimation... [Gonzo would like to] be treated as if he's at the table in 2027." [previous title: "say goodbye to gonzo"]

[stinkypete]

Gonzo has to play for the contract to toll.

Worst case scenario, we get a year of elite play, then a Sauce Gardner style pick package and cap flexibility to extend Maye and bring in a big FA.

It's not a 100% win, but it's a first world problem.

 

[PatsFan2]

Gonzo has to play for the contract to toll.

Worst case scenario, we get a year of elite play, then a Sauce Gardner style pick package and cap flexibility to extend Maye and bring in a big FA.

It's not a 100% win, but it's a first world problem.

Really hope Gozo takes a contract with great up front $$$$$$ and not outrageous cap hits. That said you gotta Draft a CB whenever you can can early. It's a Premium Position in the League. The Majority of these CB's getting paid are First Rounders.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Interesting situation for the team and agent. The team has their template with Witherspoon deal done, they shouldn't be offering less. It's also an interesting situation for the agent as Gonzalez is going to expect more, but the agent can't really look for a deal that's much bigger than the one he got for Witherspoon without Witherspoon wondering why he wasn't trying to get him that money. He can't try for 36+ without looking bad. So the parameters are pretty clear, I think we're looking at $34 a year with $105 guaranteed. The Patriots should get that done and move on to the next deal.

I don't agree with your logic that the agent looks bad with Witherspoon if Gonzo jumps him by too much. Part of being a player's agent is being honest and realistic with them. Witherspoon is a great player but not so great that making a big leap forward at the position was a realistic contract goal. For Gonzo, that is a realistic target.

Witherspoon signed his deal knowing he'd be immediately leapfrogged if Gonzo signs, even on the deal you proposed as reasonable. So Witherspoon clearly understand he's getting pushed to 2nd on his contract. There's no way the agent is secretly on our side to not ask for more money for Gonzo off of that.

 

[scott99]

Gonzo is greedy and the Krafts are cheap. Not a good combo.

How are the Krafts cheap when they offered him a contract that would have made him the highest paid CB in football, and the biggest contract in Patriot’s history ?

Were the Krafts cheap in the 2024 offseason when they gave out some huge contracts ?

Only stupid people think the Krafts are cheap, there is a salary cap in the NFL. When the Pats have cap space they always spend pretty big. When they don’t have the cap space, they don’t spend big. Pretty simple really.

 

[Hyped]

So, are we gonna pay the man or not?

IMO, his benchmark is the Witherspoon deal. Match that or offer a little less because he was drafted AFTER Witherspoon.

This is not complicated. I think it is just his agent juggling two players….

 

[scott99]

Gonzo has probably 10 years at most to make as much money as he can to support himself for the rest of his life, his family for the rest of theirs and any future generations in his bloodline that he can. I'll never fault any of these guys for looking out for their own best interests.

Gonzo has made 3,113,000 his first 3 years, and will make 2,259,000 this year. The 2,259,000 is more than any of us will see in a lifetime.

I side with Kraft on this one. At the time of the offer, it was higher than any CB in history, and the biggest Patriot’s contract ever. Obviously over 32 mill a year. When is it ever enough ? At this point, it’s all about ego and greed on Gonzo’s side.

Make him play under his contract agreement he’s under.

 

[TheRainMaker]

The problem the Pats may have is that if Gonzo is delusional in his demands, what team would even want him? He’s becomes untradable.

 

[Boomer B]

Why would the Pats completely reset the market with Gonzo? He’s not a FA. If he plays hardball we can still keep him for 3-4 years: make him play out his current deal and then franchise tag him for a year or 2.

He doesn’t hold all the cards here. No way would I reset the market for a guy we can keep here anyways.

 

[PatsFan2]

So, are we gonna pay the man or not?

IMO, his benchmark is the Witherspoon deal. Match that or offer a little less because he was drafted AFTER Witherspoon.

This is not complicated. I think it is just his agent juggling two players….

Can't say I don't envy that Agent: that said Witherspoon was considered a Better Player coming out. I would not Give Gonzo a penny more Match on the Table...take it or leave it Gonzo!

 

[ErniesPinkStripes]

The problem the Pats may have is that if Gonzo is delusional in his demands, what team would even want him? He’s becomes untradable.

Considering Bobby decided to publicly state they intend to make him the highest paid corner in the league, not sure I would put the delusions 100% on Gonzo.. He's a premium player and will try to get top dollar as they usually do

Kraft should shut up about contracts, it's in the franchise's best interests that he does so immediately.

 

[Brotherblues]

Why would the Pats completely reset the market with Gonzo? He’s not a FA. If he plays hardball we can still keep him for 3-4 years: make him play out his current deal and then franchise tag him for a year or 2.

He doesn’t hold all the cards here. No way would I reset the market for a guy we can keep here anyways.

It happens all the time with top tier guys though. It just happened with Witherspoon. And JSN before.

 

[PatsFan2]

The problem the Pats may have is that if Gonzo is delusional in his demands, what team would even want him? He’s becomes untradable.

This year not the follow or subsequent years. The Pats hold all the cards here: if Gonzo thinks he can play hardball.

 

[TheRainMaker]

This is where BB managed his draft picks well and I hope Vrabel picked up on it.

BB made most draft picks sweat out their rookie deals until BB had to make a decision. The only draft picks that were extended early were both Gronk and Hernandez.

If this turns into an Aiyuk situation and Gonzo refuses to play that’s when you trade him. Don’t make the same mistake the 49ers did.

 

[PatsFan2]

Considering Bobby decided to publicly state they intend to make him the highest paid corner in the league, not sure I would put the delusions 100% on Gonzo.. He's a premium player and will try to get top dollar as they usually do

Kraft should shut up about contracts, it's in the franchise's best interests that he does so immediately.

I don't know why Bob didn't keep his Mouth Shut... Gonzo is one of the Better Young CB's. They're quite a few in the League Today. There's no one or two distinct players @ CB... sorry Gonzo.

 

[Vindicate]

I say we take a page from the Leonard/Clippers playbook and suddenly offer Gonzo speaking engagement/endorsement deals with a tree-planting nonprofit and maybe a sausage cart outside Fenway (that'll throw them off, completely different stadium! Genius!)

 

[mgteich]

Gonzo has to play for the contract to toll.

for how many games?

Can't Gonzo play the minimum games need to toll and then refuse to play with his minor "injury"? Risking his career for a couple of million makes little sense.

In this case, the team COULD play hardball.

In that case, the team would have $18M counting against the cap until the team realized his greatest value would be in trading him.

 

[XLIX]

The 2,259,000 is more than any of us will see in a lifetime.

So you plan on working the fries at McDonald's your entire career?

 

[Boomer B]

It happens all the time with top tier guys though. It just happened with Witherspoon. And JSN before.

Witherspoon didn’t reset the market though. He got the biggest contract, but it didn’t blow away the other top recent CB signings. I’m all for making Gonzo the highest paid CB, but I’m not for him resetting the market so he’s still the highest paid after next season when the next batch of CB contracts are done. There’s no need for the Pats to do that.

 

[Triumph]

Gonzo has made 3,113,000 his first 3 years, and will make 2,259,000 this year. The 2,259,000 is more than any of us will see in a lifetime.

I side with Kraft on this one. At the time of the offer, it was higher than any CB in history, and the biggest Patriot’s contract ever. Obviously over 32 mill a year. When is it ever enough ? At this point, it’s all about ego and greed on Gonzo’s side.

Make him play under his contract agreement he’s under.

Dont leave out all the income tax that Gonzo paid.

8 games in Mass
1 game in NY
1 game in NJ

3 bloodsuckers right there.

 

[PatsFan2]

Dont leave out all the income tax that Gonzo paid.

8 games in Mass
1 game in NY
1 game in NJ

3 bloodsuckers right there.

Triumph you in the Millionaires club??