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Boutte available for trade?

There is little reason for the team to make Boutte available for trade until at least mid-August.

On the other hand, Boutte could be part of trade compensation if the pats are negotiation for a player.
 
AJ Brown, Doubs, Williams, Douglas, Hollins, Chism, multiple talented UDFA’s trying out for a roster spot.

That’s a really good group of WR’s.
AJ, Doubs, Boutte, Hollins, Williams, Chism, PS and UDFAs and other fringe players is just as good, maybe better.

I think Pop is on a thinner bubble than Boutte.
 
AJ, Doubs, Boutte, Hollins, Williams, Chism, PS and UDFAs and other fringe players is just as good, maybe better.

I think Pop is on a thinner bubble than Boutte.
Presuming that Boutte doesn't have an attitude issue, the question is who would you rather have on the team if Doubs or Brown miss a couple of games. Boutte or Douglas?
 
We agree there: that said I think we're discounting Boutte's torrid start up until the Atlanta game last year when he got injured. A healthy Boutte would have eclipsed any season of Romeo Doubs thus far: which is not a high bar. Also he would have been close to Alec Pierce statistically who resigned with the Colts.
Torrid? He was on pace for 48 catches for 900 yards.
 
Presuming that Boutte doesn't have an attitude issue, the question is who would you rather have on the team if Doubs or Brown miss a couple of games. Boutte or Douglas?
Assuming that none of the WRs has an attitude issue, I’d rather have Boutte than Douglas regardless of Doubs and Brown health and availability. I think he brings a little more value to the overall mix. It’s not a huge difference because after all we are talking about probably the fourth or fifth or sixth layers on the depth chart for either one.

Brown is clearly WR1, and Doubs is WR2. Who is WR3?

Boutte?
Douglas?
Hollins?
Williams?

I think it’s going to turn out to be Hollins, followed by Williams, with Boutte and Douglas fighting over the last spot in the pecking order.
 
Extend Boutte for 3 years and we can stop worrying about WR's.

We would end up overpaying, probably the same as Hollins, but it would likely be worth it.

This would a relatively small cost.

We could then focus on Defense for the next two years (other than extending or replacing Onwenu and Henry).
 
There is little reason for the team to make Boutte available for trade until at least mid-August.

On the other hand, Boutte could be part of trade compensation if the pats are negotiation for a player.

Right - if there were an opportunity to trade him for an edge rusher or TE then you want them in camp sooner than later.

Aside from that, at his salary, I want to keep him until we get down to cut downs in case the injury bug hits

Some still consider him the 3rd best receiver on the team
 
Right - if there were an opportunity to trade him for an edge rusher or TE then you want them in camp sooner than later.

Aside from that, at his salary, I want to keep him until we get down to cut downs in case the injury bug hits

Some still consider him the 3rd best receiver on the team
If Boutte is arguably our #3 WR, there is no reason to let him go. At his salary, he is very valuable. And, unless Williams seems great, we could consider extending Boutte to compete with Williams.
 
There is little reason for the team to make Boutte available for trade until at least mid-August.

Yes. Unless...


...On the other hand, Boutte could be part of trade compensation if the pats are negotiation for a player.

...AND if Stephon Diggs is re-signed to ass-ume the traditional Slot role here, which would allow both AJB & Doubs to stay Outside at their more naturally-suited roles...
 
AJ, Doubs, Boutte, Hollins, Williams, Chism, PS and UDFAs and other fringe players is just as good, maybe better.

I think Pop is on a thinner bubble than Boutte.

Would the Pop/Booty dynamic change if Diggs were re-signed?


Presuming that Boutte doesn't have an attitude issue, the question is who would you rather have on the team if Doubs or Brown miss a couple of games. Boutte or Douglas?

Me... me... me Bouttte.

Assuming that none of the WRs has an attitude issue, I’d rather have Boutte than Douglas regardless of Doubs and Brown health and availability. I think he brings a little more value to the overall mix. It’s not a huge difference because after all we are talking about probably the fourth or fifth or sixth layers on the depth chart for either one.

Brown is clearly WR1, and Doubs is WR2. Who is WR3?

Boutte?
Douglas?
Hollins?
Williams?

I think it’s going to turn out to be Hollins, followed by Williams, with Boutte and Douglas fighting over the last spot in the pecking order.

Hollins clearly is #3 as of now; and that has me wondering, are we going to see a traditional Patriots Slot Receiver in a meaningful role this season; and if we are, then who's it gonna be? Pop? Chism? Diggs...?
 
AJ, Doubs, Boutte, Hollins, Williams, Chism, PS and UDFAs and other fringe players is just as good, maybe better.

I think Pop is on a thinner bubble than Boutte.
I don’t think so. Pop has unique combination of speed, quickness and explosion. He gets open quickly and covers a lot of ground. Josh and the team are clearly trying to get Drake to take the plays that convert downs, that means getting Pop more involved.
 
Boutte is a good, not a great WR. He is a solid #3 WR in my opinion. You can move on from him if you think he is redundant to what they have that is better.

Again, I am happy to see him stay. But won't be upset if he goes because the Patriots have a wealth of depth.

Boutte plays a different position than Pop and Chism. So that is probably why people would rather see Boutte go. The Pats don't have a top line starter at slot. Boutte is a lite version of AJ Brown.

I think Boutte would rather be traded because he wants to go to a place where he can start. He isn't starting in New England unless Brown goes down.

I think Boutte would love to stay if all things were equal, but they aren't. He's a free agent after this season and he knows that unless Doubs or Brown go down for the season that he won't get the touches to get the payday he wants.
 
Bob Kraft said it into a microphone with a TV camera pointed at him. The local sports media were in a frenzy of excitement that Bob was taking the draft away from Bill. It was discussed ad nauseam on this and other forums.


Bill gave an interview a year after he was gone and said it happened… but you missed that… you missed
both of these things.



Your agenda is showing.

Kraft gave Belichick complete control and he never gave it up. He sure as **** didn't let Eliot Wolf overrule him and pick his quarterback for him. And once again Kraft said in 24'that Belichick always had total control, so your claim that he collaborated is complete ********.
 
Kraft gave Belichick complete control and he never gave it up. He sure as **** didn't let Eliot Wolf overrule him and pick his quarterback for him. And once again Kraft said in 24'that Belichick always had total control, so your claim that he collaborated is complete ********.
Kraft said it changed in 2021, what he said after it crashed and burned in 2024 doesn’t mean sht.

The guy produced a documentary trying to portray himself like George Halas, an owner/GM/coach who led the dynasty to greatness. Like we all hadn’t just witnessed the previous two decades.

I don’t begrudge him, he was lobbying to make the HOF… but give it a rest.

Bob said personnel changed entering 2021, Bill said it changed the last few years in an interview a year ago.

Your BB hate doesn’t erase our collective history or memories. Get a grip.
 
Would that suck roc??
No. But it's hardly 'torrid'.

For torrid, try Rand Moss in 2007. First 8 games, 780 yards, 53 catches, 11 TDs.
 
I'm still waiting for two things to occur:

Vrabel stepping down as Head Coach and Boutte being traded.
 
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