Patriots Rumor A.J. Brown trade rumors heat up - Should Patriots get him?

[PatsFan2]

After months of hearing about the genius of Howie Roseman, how Roseman holds all the cards, and having read and listen to the ridiculous trade compensation the Eagles fans thought they were going to get; Wolf will deserve his praise if the final trade is a conditional 2028 first round pick.

Elliott Wolf or John Streicher?? I'm going with the latter.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

 

[Rob0729]

Elliott Wolf or John Streicher?? I'm going with the latter.

Stop it. Wolf is the GM. Wolf and Roseman have a strong relationship. If there is any negotiation, it would be between Wolf and Roseman. Streicher does not do trade negotiations.

 

[Ring 6]

The Pats did not draft a WR to replace Diggs and are up the creek without a paddle if this deal dont go through.

Howie Roseman is the sharpest GM in the business and holds all the cards. Time is on his side and not on Wolfs. Training camps and preseason games are starting soon and some stud WR always pulls up lame. Just wait a few months for new team that never serves baloney to its players to be looking for a WR.

They signed Doubs. They drafted Williams last year. They were thrb#2 pass offense.

Roseman has a player who doesn’t want to be there. He traded up in round 1 for a WR and brought in 2 others.
They need to move him more than the patriots need to get him.

Again, we disagree, and we will see what happens.

 

[borisman]

Happy AJ Brown Month!

 

[Raccoonsuit]

 

[SlowGettingUp]

He barely made contact.

That's because he moved his feet, gained position on the lineman and was able to easily take him to the ground.

And here's one where he stays on his block downfield for seemingly ever, and thus assists in a TD - most WRs would long-since have given up on that block, having "done their duty."

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

Wow. Had no clue!

 

[TheButlerDidIt]

I guess I'm struggling with all the heartburn about giving up a 1st round pick for a known commodity whose skill set should match VERY well with Drake's game and should give us at least a couple years of solid production (understanding that one never knows about injuries, etc.)

I mean, here is what we have done with our 1st round picks (when we had one) in the past 15 years:

• 2026: Caleb Lomu, OT, Utah (Pick No. 28)
• 2025: Will Campbell, OT, LSU (Pick No. 4)
• 2024: Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina (Pick No. 3)
• 2023: Christian Gonzalez, CB, Oregon
• 2022: Cole Strange, OL, Tennessee at Chattanooga
• 2021: Mac Jones, QB, Alabama
• 2019: N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State
• 2018: Sony Michel, RB, Georgia & Isaiah Wynn, OL, Georgia
• 2015: Malcom Brown, DL, Texas
• 2014: Dominique Easley, DL, Florida
• 2012: Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse & Dont'a Hightower, LB, Alabama

Out of those 11 picks, I'd say 3 were bona fide great players (Maye, Gonzales, and chandler Jones) and even one of those we needed to ship out because he was a head case. Too soon to tell on one (Campbell).

So, our hit rate -- even on 1st round picks -- is about ~30%, which means about 2/3s of them end up being so-so players -- or outright busts.

We can **** all over Belichick's picking strategy, but the reality is that MOST 1st round players don't end up being superstarts, and thus it's not unreasonable to roll the dice and use a pick to get someone whom you think will be a very strong asset -- because you are rolling the dice on the pick in any event. (Yes, I get the picks also have much better cap / cost controls than AJ.)

I'm not advocating a McVay approach (although he has done alright), but my point is that 1st round picks are not the instant gold that many seem to treat them as.

 

[Uptown]

Won’t happen, but I would be quite poetic if Diana Russini broke the official trade news…

 

[Raccoonsuit]

I guess I'm struggling with all the heartburn about giving up a 1st round pick for a known commodity whose skill set should match VERY well with Drake's game and should give us at least a couple years of solid production (understanding that one never knows about injuries, etc.)

I mean, here is what we have done with our 1st round picks (when we had one) in the past 15 years:

• 2026: Caleb Lomu, OT, Utah (Pick No. 28)
• 2025: Will Campbell, OT, LSU (Pick No. 4)
• 2024: Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina (Pick No. 3)
• 2023: Christian Gonzalez, CB, Oregon
• 2022: Cole Strange, OL, Tennessee at Chattanooga
• 2021: Mac Jones, QB, Alabama
• 2019: N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State
• 2018: Sony Michel, RB, Georgia & Isaiah Wynn, OL, Georgia
• 2015: Malcom Brown, DL, Texas
• 2014: Dominique Easley, DL, Florida
• 2012: Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse & Dont'a Hightower, LB, Alabama

Out of those 11 picks, I'd say 3 were bona fide great players (Maye, Gonzales, and chandler Jones) and even one of those we needed to ship out because he was a head case. Too soon to tell on one (Campbell).

So, our hit rate -- even on 1st round picks -- is about ~30%, which means about 2/3s of them end up being so-so players -- or outright busts.

We can **** all over Belichick's picking strategy, but the reality is that MOST 1st round players don't end up being superstarts, and thus it's not unreasonable to roll the dice and use a pick to get someone whom you think will be a very strong asset -- because you are rolling the dice on the pick in any event. (Yes, I get the picks also have much better cap / cost controls than AJ.)

I'm not advocating a McVay approach (although he has done alright), but my point is that 1st round picks are not the instant gold that many seem to treat them as.

The pats draft record at wr since I've been alive that have been decent/good: fryar, Glenn, Branch, givens, edelman, Mitchell, douglas, Meyers. I'm sure I'm forgetting some but half the time our 1st round pick is meh. I don't mind giving up a pick that is hopefully in the 28-32 range 2 seasons from now

 

[PatsFan2]

That's because he moved his feet, gained position on the lineman and was able to easily take him to the ground.

And here's one where he stays on his block downfield for seemingly ever, and thus assists in a TD - most WRs would long-since have given up on that block, having "done their duty."

But...but he's washed and a shell of former self.

 

[grux]

If the rumors are true about giving up a 2028 first for AJ, I think that is a very fair deal. When healthy he is a top 10 receiver in the NFL. Lets go.

 

[Ring 6]

That's because he moved his feet, gained position on the lineman and was able to easily take him to the ground.

And here's one where he stays on his block downfield for seemingly ever, and thus assists in a TD - most WRs would long-since have given up on that block, having "done their duty."

This one’s a good job. The other one was a guy tripping over his own feet.

 

[Family]

I don’t think he has a market.

Not for a first, but if he were available for a third and a fifth he would.

 

[The Gr8est]

Independent of this trade, if the answer is not always Vrabel, then Kraft needs to have his head examined.

I trust Vrabel more than Wolf as the final decider.

Gonna take Wolf a long time to recover from the 2024 draft in my eyes.

That was a putrid effort after Maye.

 

[Rob0729]

 

[The Gr8est]

He'd be nice. But I've been firm on this...
I don't want to give away more than he's worth, just to satisfy a chanting mob. He's had a lot of miles, sketchy knee, and just like Moss, he'll only stay happy for ~2yrs here, unless we're winning championships. It's going to be restrictive on our cap - regarding Gonzo & Maye's deals upcoming. A top 5 CB & QB (pre-prime) is worth much more than a post-prime top 10 WR.

Sure, our offense wouldn't be as good without AJ, but the question is - would a motivated Boutte with this hungry and rising overall corp be a stronger TEAM overall the next 2-4 years than if AJ came for 2 and hindered the development/chemistry of the whole?

I'm just saying there's reasons to be okay if it doesn't happen - especially if it costs us a 1st & Tons of $$.

I think it is possible that Pats fans are underrating Boutte.

He was having a stellar year before the injuries, and that TD catch vs Houston in the playoffs shows a player who can step up when it matters.

 

[PatsFan2]

Three more hours.

 

[PatsFan2]

I think it is possible that Pats fans are underrating Boutte.

He was having a stellar year before the injuries, and that TD catch vs Houston in the playoffs shows a player who can step up when it matters.

I going out on a limb and say If we keep him: Boutte could have a season just as good or better than Doubs.