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Patriots Rumor A.J. Brown trade rumors heat up - Should Patriots get him?

A report indicating the Patriots are potentially in the market for this player, or have expressed or plant to express interest.
While I appreciate the logic, predictions on draft quality a year ahead of time are not always accurate. Assuming that the Pats don't have to pay a premium for trading future picks, the Pats are better off trading next years picks. Adding Brown and having draft picks added to this team a year sooner has a lot of value for a team trying to restock the roster. The team should be better able to miss out on a pick, or two next year with a roster that has fewer holes.
Would any Pats fan consider trading Gonzo for AJ Brown?

It could easily become an equivalent of that.
 
Would any Pats fan consider trading Gonzo for AJ Brown?

It could easily become an equivalent of that.
I think that is a great, great big no.
 
Stupid comment it could also be Cole Strange or N’keal
To be fair, we KNOW we pick at 31 this year, which is more in line with saying we'd be trading Strange or Harry for AJ Brown.

We HOPE we're picking there or at 32 next season. But anything can happen. The defending 2024 AFC champions were set to pick in the teens BEFORE Mahommes tore his ACL That is the area Gonzalez was drafted.

Obviously all of us would like to think adding AJ would assure the 1st round pick we traded will be very low. But we can't deny the possibility that it ends up being high enough that we regret it.
 
A 2026 2nd round is the same as a 2027 1st round. I am ambivalent about whether we trade 2026 picks or 2027 picks. I think Brown will be a great addition to the team. I am not sure 1st 2nd or 4th round picks either this year or next will have anywhere the impact on the team that a true #1 receiver will who really wants to be here playing for a coach he truly respects, a team he idolizes and a young superstar qb who can actually throw the ball. Could we be giving up a superstar with the draft pick?? Sure, could we be giving up a complete bust, sure, probably somewhere in between. But a #1 receiver, Jesus
 
To be fair, we KNOW we pick at 31 this year, which is more in line with saying we'd be trading Strange or Harry for AJ Brown.

We HOPE we're picking there or at 32 next season. But anything can happen. The defending 2024 AFC champions were set to pick in the teens BEFORE Mahommes tore his ACL That is the area Gonzalez was drafted.

Obviously all of us would like to think adding AJ would assure the 1st round pick we traded will be very low. But we can't deny the possibility that it ends up being high enough that we regret it.

You are conflating Belichick's drafts with Vrabel's drafts, and they are very different. I expect the player they take to become a high value starter for years to come. If the Eagles want to make the deal I would do it for a2nd this year and next. If not then pass and draft 2 receivers in this draft. One of them in the first 2 rounds, the other in round 3-4.
 
To be fair Sam was getting downright positive and almost euphoric (ok that’s an exaggeration, but compared to his history…) during the playoff run.

I think part of the problem is that too many won’t let go of the past even when the present is getting better.

Give him a chance people. We’re all rooting for the same team, each in our own ways.

There are other pessimists on here besides Sam. I’m not going to name names but I’m sure others have noticed some usernames are dependably hypercritical and seldom positive in their posts.

So let’s stop picking on each other so much.

The problem with this is that people don't change when they blame others for their problems, which is exactly what Sam is doing. He's clearly saying that the reason people are sick of his **** is because they aren't tolerant enough, when the truth is that there are plenty of negative posters in this site, but Sam stands out because he's always negative.

Sam isn't banned, he can do what he wants, but I seriously doubt he will ever change, because that's just who he is.
 
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You are conflating Belichick's drafts with Vrabel's drafts, and they are very different. I expect the player they take to become a high value starter for years to come. If the Eagles want to make the deal I would do it for a2nd this year and next. If not then pass and draft 2 receivers in this draft. One of them in the first 2 rounds, the other in round 3-4.
My post wasn't about who was drafting but where we were drafting. The poster I responded to said it was stupid to ask if people would trade Gonzo for AJ Brown because those picks could have been Strange or Harry.

Gonzo was the 17th pick in the draft, while Strange and Harry were 29th and 32nd. Regardless of drafting the wrong players, there is obviously better talent higher in the 1st round, and that's the risk to trading a 2027 1st rounder, no matter who is running the draft board now.
 
My post wasn't about who was drafting but where we were drafting. The poster I responded to said it was stupid to ask if people would trade Gonzo for AJ Brown because those picks could have been Strange or Harry.

Gonzo was the 17th pick in the draft, while Strange and Harry were 29th and 32nd. Regardless of drafting the wrong players, there is obviously better talent higher in the 1st round, and that's the risk to trading a 2027 1st rounder, no matter who is running the draft board now.
assuming all of Vrabels picks will hit is foolish. Hit rates for 2nd round players goes between 50% and 12%, first round hit rates between 75% and 50% all depending on position. Picking at the end of the round makes it much more likely to bust. Way over valuing picks is foolish.
 
Would any Pats fan consider trading Gonzo for AJ Brown?

It could easily become an equivalent of that.
Trading picks is always risky, especially in the first round where the talent is more predictable. You could make the same point about Gonzo with the pick this year or say that by trading a 6th round pick the team is losing TB12.2. At the end of the day future picks are worth less in trades, I don't place enough stock in predictions to change that view. If the Pats have the chance to get Brown at a value they should make the trade, preferably using next years picks because it accelerates the rebuild this year.
 
Not quite sure your end of rd statement is accurate.

Last 25 #31 overall draft picks


Same for #20 overall



I do not see a “much more likely to bust” difference at all.
 
assuming all of Vrabels picks will hit is foolish. Hit rates for 2nd round players goes between 50% and 12%, first round hit rates between 75% and 50% all depending on position. Picking at the end of the round makes it much more likely to bust. Way over valuing picks is foolish.
It's also foolish to assume it's a lock that AJ Brown will have the impact expected of him for the compensation given. We would certainly expect him to be our top WR, but we also can't pretend 1st round picks traded for veterans has a 100% success rate.

And as you said, picking at the end of the 1st round makes the pick more likely to bust. I agree. My point is we can't GUARANTEE we'll be picking at the end of the 1st round. What if Maye (and others) goes down for the season? How far is Josh Dobbs or Devito taking us? Is AJ Brown worth potentially what could be a top 10 draft pick?
 
My post wasn't about who was drafting but where we were drafting. The poster I responded to said it was stupid to ask if people would trade Gonzo for AJ Brown because those picks could have been Strange or Harry.

Gonzo was the 17th pick in the draft, while Strange and Harry were 29th and 32nd. Regardless of drafting the wrong players, there is obviously better talent higher in the 1st round, and that's the risk to trading a 2027 1st rounder, no matter who is running the draft board now.

I don't disagree with that.
 
Would any Pats fan consider trading Gonzo for AJ Brown?

It could easily become an equivalent of that.
 
It's also foolish to assume it's a lock that AJ Brown will have the impact expected of him for the compensation given. We would certainly expect him to be our top WR, but we also can't pretend 1st round picks traded for veterans has a 100% success rate.

And as you said, picking at the end of the 1st round makes the pick more likely to bust. I agree. My point is we can't GUARANTEE we'll be picking at the end of the 1st round. What if Maye (and others) goes down for the season? How far is Josh Dobbs or Devito taking us? Is AJ Brown worth potentially what could be a top 10 draft pick?
Look at the Commanders. One season after playing in the NFC title game they are picking top 10.
 
Three things you never hear:

“Rosie O’Donnell is hawt!”

“Man I LOVE mosquitoes!”

“Wow! Howie Roseman really lost THAT trade!”
 
You are conflating Belichick's drafts with Vrabel's drafts, and they are very different. I expect the player they take to become a high value starter for years to come. If the Eagles want to make the deal I would do it for a2nd this year and next. If not then pass and draft 2 receivers in this draft. One of them in the first 2 rounds, the other in round 3-4.
Even if you expect Vrabel to be an improvement drafting, the 31 is still too far down to be anything more than potential. There's more duds across the NFL who were picked 25 through 31 than actual elite talent. Just a straight up numbers game, the percentage drop of a good starter from the top 15 to after that is the equivalent of the drop from the 1st round to 2nd round. The concentration of talent doesn't exits.

On top of that, there's just the reality of the draft board. The positions we want to improve on most are the ones where the top talent goes fast. We need a WR1, not an other 2 or 3. Realistically unless you just get very lucky, you aren't drafting a projected WR1 that late.
 
Would any Pats fan consider trading Gonzo for AJ Brown?

It could easily become an equivalent of that.
We drafted Gonzalez at 17. This is more comparable to where we drafted Polk, Strange, Barmore, Dugger, Harry, Wynn, Brown, Easely etc. Now there are some decent players in there, there are a quite a few duds in there. But even the best of those, no I wouldn't really lose any sleep if we traded the best player of that grouping for AJ Brown.

If we had the 17 overall it's a different discussion. We are in the heat of things in the draft, we probably avoid a big run off at some of the more stacked positions, and we are in shooting distance where we can feasibly trade up for a blue chipper if we felt it was the right thing. Also our 2nd would be a lot more valuable
 
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