PostGame Thread Suck it Buffalo

[XLIX]

soft as butter bro. If you’re afraid of me being right, just say that.

You’re not fooling anyone. You’re the type of ****y who implies things all week long but never makes any definitive statements so you can’t be wrong.

You spent a week talking about how great Houston’s defense was. You said they were historic. You called them a top-20 all time defense. The Patriots would be completely unable to move the ball and score on them. Then when the Pats beat the team that you said had an all world defense, you went back to “oh NE has the easiest path to the Super Bowl” routine.

You definitely implied things (that didn’t happen) but was too much of a ****y to actually predict it. The only actual prediction you made was you said Seattle would win. Whoop de doo. Way to go out on a limb.

 

[Rob0729]

Post the proof

LOL! You claimed that the Pats would fail against the Texans defense even though Maye threw for more TDs and had a higher QB rating than any QB that faced the Texans this year.

And in this thread, you said to me the current Patriots are not a good team and are going to be a 7-8 win team next year because they are the same team that had "three wins" in 2024 when I proved that it is a very different team. And the Pats had 4 wins in 2024.

You are walking proof of what Dunning and Kruger hypothesized. You think you are far smarter than you really are and claim to be always right and prove it with cherry picked information and misleading "facts". You literally used a Barstool sports talking head's hot take to "prove" your point (note that people on the panel with the guy mocked his hot take). The fact is you are rarely right and only right in your own mind.

 

[EddardSnow67]

soft as butter bro. If you’re afraid of me being right, just say that.

Where I'm from, your attitude would get you beat up. Just being realistic.

 

[Jim Plunkett]

Says every mirror you encounter ... at home, in the gas station restroom ... even the reflective verglas surrounding your new toilet-bowl stadium. Purgatory awaits every Prairie Cows fan for the short balance of assistant owner/deputy GM Josh Allen's career. After that, a permanent return to which you are most familiar in the grand tradition of "Wide Right!" ...

What's that got to do with anything? Won't do anything for Pats future.
I'm not playing dumb fan one upmanship or trolling or arguing. It's just a simple fact that it's never happening again for a very long time.
Wouldn't be good business for the league in the first place. The fact they made it to SB this year was annoying enough to the NFL fan base. So then losing was what the nation wanted to see. But also it was one of the most boring not talked about super Bowls ever. I don't know, maybe top 5 or something lol.
Drake Maye is just going to turn into a Marc Bulger or something. In three years you'll forget he was even there.

 

[Tunescribe]

I'm not playing dumb fan one upmanship or trolling or arguing.

 

[GreenCow]

LOL! You claimed that the Pats would fail against the Texans defense

No I didn’t. I said the Patriots would win that game. I said Houston has a really good defense but Pats would win fairly easily.

And in this thread, you said to me the current Patriots are not a good team

And that remains true.

The Patriots are back to 7-9 wins next season. And they have a pretty big question mark at QB.

 

[sb1]

And that remains true.

The Patriots are back to 7-9 wins next season.

The Pats have a ton of cap room and the team now has a playoff run under their belt. There's no question they're on the rise now. I think they are where the Bills were after they lost to HOU in the wild card years back. Going into camp after the moves they make this offseason I expect them to be a significantly better team than they were this season even if they don't finish with the same record. Harder schedule for sure. Still don't see why they can't win at least 10 but we'll see.

And they have a pretty big question mark at QB.

Don't think so. If he is bad next season and I doubt he will be then there will be questions. As for the postseason we also know now the left side of the OL was badly hobbled and so was the QB's shoulder. Passers simply don't go from one of the most accurate in the league to badly missing guys unless they are injured.

 

[sb1]

Drake Maye is just going to turn into a Marc Bulger or something.

Bulger actually was a good QB. Injuries derailed his career.

 

[GreenCow]

The Pats have a ton of cap room

Good teams are never built with free agency.

Don't think so. If he is bad next season and I doubt he will be then there will be questions. As for the postseason we also know now the left side of the OL was badly hobbled and so was the QB's shoulder. Passers don't go from one of the most accurate in the league to badly missing guys unless they are injured.

Two things.

1) I am concerned about Maye’s mental status going forward. What he did in the playoffs has ruined other QB’s, mentally, for the rest of their career.

2) He didn’t go from the most accurate to badly missing guys. He was never as accurate as you thought he was in the first place. He threw 2 (TWO) touchdowns all year against teams with a winning record. Which means he was beating up on bad secondaries. He played a college level schedule so of course his numbers will look good. Honestly, It’s such a ridiculously bad stat (only 2 TD’s against winning teams) I had to look twice when I saw the tweet.

I think McDermott figured him out in that second Bills matchup and then teams started copying that formula. In fact, a player from another defense actually mentioned copying Buffalo’s formula for Maye. After the Bills game, Maye had 9 TD, 5 INT, and 9 fumbles (not counting the Jets game, where even Mitch Trubisky feasted against).

 

[Ross12]

No I didn’t. I said the Patriots would win that game. I said Houston has a really good defense but Pats would win fairly easily.



And that remains true.

The Patriots are back to 7-9 wins next season. And they have a pretty big question mark at QB.

Stats like this are very stupid because there are multiple teams who only finished with a losing record BECAUSE the Patriots beat them. If the Patriots lost, at least 5 teams would have become "teams with winning records" and this stat would have skyrocketed, but the Pats would've missed the postseason. But hey, whatever fits your narrative, bro!

EDIT: Also it's not even... true? He scored 4 TDs against teams with winning records (two vs PITT, two vs BUF). That's twice as many as this tweet listed.

 

[Tunescribe]

No I didn’t. I said the Patriots would win that game. I said Houston has a really good defense but Pats would win fairly easily.



And that remains true.

The Patriots are back to 7-9 wins next season. And they have a pretty big question mark at QB.

 

[GreenCow]

Stats like this are very stupid because there are multiple teams who only finished with a losing record BECAUSE the Patriots beat them. If the Patriots lost, at least 3 teams would have become "teams with winning records" and this stat would have skyrocketed, but the Pats would've missed the postseason. But hey, whatever fits your narrative, bro!

My narrative? I didn’t tweet that! And I’m someone who has defended Maye.

I doubt there is that many 8-9 teams the Pats played and would have flipped to 9-8 if they had won.

But regardless, we saw what Maye did against winning teams in the playoffs. Not pretty.

 

[sb1]

Good teams are never built with free agency.

Sure they can. 2001 Patriots say hello. I think you're mixing up spending big money on free agents with being smart about getting the right guys which I expect them to do. I agree you can't buy a good team. Pats went through that in 2021 and you saw for yourself what the outcome of that was in the playoffs.

Two things.

1) I am concerned about Maye’s mental status going forward. What he did in the playoffs has ruined other QB’s, mentally, for the rest of their career.

I don't know about that. Do you have anyone in mind where that happened? Maybe a poorly coached QB but that's not a problem here. We'll see.

2) He didn’t go from the most accurate to badly missing guys. He was never as accurate as you thought he was in the first place. He threw 2 (TWO) touchdowns all year against teams with a winning record. Which means he was beating up on bad secondaries.

Pats played a few decent to good secondaries this season and he was very accurate. QB's just don't lose that capability unless it's physical. Their big weakness right now is RZ offense which (hopefully) should be corrected and also means more pass and run TDs.

Honestly, It’s such a ridiculously bad stat I had to look twice when I saw the tweet.

I think McDermott figured him out in that second Bills matchup and then teams started copying that formula. In fact, a player from another defense actually mentioned copying Buffalo’s formula for Maye. After the Bills game, Maye had 9 TD, 5 INT, and 9 fumbles (not counting the Jets game, where even Mitch Trubisky feasted against).

I think they just exploited his tendency to look for the home run first instead of a better option shorter. Explains the sacks when those plays don't develop. It's nothing I wouldn't expect from a 23 year old developing QB which he is. I expect that to be coached out of him.

 

[XLIX]

No I didn’t. I said the Patriots would win that game. I said Houston has a really good defense but Pats would win fairly easily.

Link or it didn’t happen. You didn't say Houston "had a really good defense". You said they had a HISTORICALLY GREAT defense. Top 20 of all time. Anyone that thinks the Patriots are going to roll through them is an idiot!

And that remains true.

The Patriots are back to 7-9 wins next season. And they have a pretty big question mark at QB.

So then what does that make Buffalo? 5-12? Their schedule is much, much harder too.

As the whole world constantly points out, NE had an easy schedule this past year. There were only 3 (regular season) games against teams that finished >.500. Maye ran for 2 and threw for 2 in those 3 games.

Did he light the world on fire in those 3 games? No. But having some perspective, 4 TDs in 3 games is not the debacle some are acting like it is.

 

[Ross12]

I doubt there is that many 8-9 teams the Pats played and would have flipped to 9-8 if they had won.

- Panthers
- Buccaneers
- Ravens
- Falcons
- Dolphins

Google is easy to use.

 

[upstater1]

No I didn’t. I said the Patriots would win that game. I said Houston has a really good defense but Pats would win fairly easily.



And that remains true.

The Patriots are back to 7-9 wins next season. And they have a pretty big question mark at QB.

This is a pure and utter lie. You said the opposite of what you claim here

 

[Ross12]

OPTION A: Patriots beat the Panthers, Bucs, Ravens, Falcons, and Dolphins. New England finishes 14-3 and goes on a playoff run. Idiots online say "Drake Maye only had 2 TDs vs winning teams (even though it was really 4), he sucks!!!!"

OPTION B: Patriots lose to the Panthers, Bucs, Ravens, Falcons, and Dolphins. New England finishes 8-9 and misses the playoffs. Drake Maye finishes with 17 touchdowns against 'winning' teams instead of 4. Idiots online say "Drake Maye couldn't get his team to the postseason and lost to most teams he faced with winning records. He sucks!!!!!"

 

[upstater1]

Good teams are never built with free agency.



Two things.

1) I am concerned about Maye’s mental status going forward. What he did in the playoffs has ruined other QB’s, mentally, for the rest of their career.

2) He didn’t go from the most accurate to badly missing guys. He was never as accurate as you thought he was in the first place. He threw 2 (TWO) touchdowns all year against teams with a winning record. Which means he was beating up on bad secondaries. He played a college level schedule so of course his numbers will look good. Honestly, It’s such a ridiculously bad stat (only 2 TD’s against winning teams) I had to look twice when I saw the tweet.

I think McDermott figured him out in that second Bills matchup and then teams started copying that formula. In fact, a player from another defense actually mentioned copying Buffalo’s formula for Maye. After the Bills game, Maye had 9 TD, 5 INT, and 9 fumbles (not counting the Jets game, where even Mitch Trubisky feasted against).

This soft schedule thing is 100% horsepucky.

if the Patriots and Bills traded schedules, the Patriots likely end up with the same record, while the Bills improve by 1 or 2 wins.

The 2 teams had only 3 games where they played teams the other didn't play.

The Bills went 1-2 (losing to the 2 teams w/ winning records). The Patriots went 2-1 against teams with a losing record in those games.

If you gave the Patriots a 1st place schedule, they probably also go 2-1 in those games the Bills played or at worst 1-2. The reason I say 2-1 is because Buffalo lost to Houston, whereas the Patriots beat Houston.

The soft schedule argument coming from a Bills fan is laughable.

Face it, Maye is a much more accurate passer than Josh Allen.

 

[sb1]

OPTION A: Patriots beat the Panthers, Bucs, Ravens, Falcons, and Dolphins. New England finishes 14-3 and goes on a playoff run. Idiots online say "Drake Maye only had 2 TDs vs winning teams (even though it was really 4), he sucks!!!!"

OPTION B: Patriots lose to the Panthers, Bucs, Ravens, Falcons, and Dolphins. New England finishes 8-9 and misses the playoffs. Drake Maye finishes with 17 touchdowns against 'winning' teams instead of 4. Idiots online say "Drake Maye couldn't get his team to the postseason and lost to most teams he faced with winning records. He sucks!!!!!"

That PolymarketBlitz account had another tweet that basically said "Dillon Gabriel had more TD passes against winning teams than Maye lolz". I don't take what it has to say seriously and neither should anyone else.

 

[GreenCow]

This is a pure and utter lie. You said the opposite of what you claim here

Show the post where I said that Houston would win.

OPTION A: Patriots beat the Panthers, Bucs, Ravens, Falcons, and Dolphins. New England finishes 14-3 and goes on a playoff run. Idiots online say "Drake Maye only had 2 TDs vs winning teams (even though it was really 4), he sucks!!!!"

OPTION B: Patriots lose to the Panthers, Bucs, Ravens, Falcons, and Dolphins. New England finishes 8-9 and misses the playoffs. Drake Maye finishes with 17 touchdowns against 'winning' teams instead of 4. Idiots online say "Drake Maye couldn't get his team to the postseason and lost to most teams he faced with winning records. He sucks!!!!!"

Dolphins were 7-10. Changing the win/loss with them wouldn’t change anything.