NFL News Breaking: McDermott fired

[upstater1]

Which is why I'd love that circus to mosey on over to 2 Bills Drive.

This idea that it's a circus is right out of daytime soap operas and Boston sports radio.

It's pretty meaningless day to day. Buffalo is also a low drama town where the people don't get caught up in this stuff.

The problem for Belichick last 5 years has been personnel, whether it's his fault or someone else's. He's also really old to be a head coach at any level, but especially at the college level.

With a team already intact, Belichick could easily reproduce what McDermott did on D in Buffalo, and could probably do better. But he would need an offensive mastermind like Daboll.

I was talking to a Bills fan yesterday who thought it could work if you made Daboll a coach in waiting. But then I told them what happened when the Patriots had that setup in 2023.

 

[sb1]

Messy details emerge on Sean McDermott's fractured relationship with Buffalo Bills GM Brandon Beane | Sporting News

The former Buffalo Bills' head coach was fired on Monday.

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If there is this kind of dysfunction that would explain a lot about the firing.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Messy details emerge on Sean McDermott's fractured relationship with Buffalo Bills GM Brandon Beane | Sporting News

The former Buffalo Bills' head coach was fired on Monday.

www.sportingnews.com

If there is this kind of dysfunction that would explain a lot about the firing.

You know, if the Bills want to self destruct, I'm glad no one is standing in their way.

 

[patfanken]

Firing McDermott while keeping Beane makes LESS sense today than it made when it happened. And it didn't make sense then.

 

[Bill Lee]

And if it happened to us, I would have been ripping the WR for not hanging onto the ball, which was all Cooks had to do, and didn't, because he's Brandin Cooks.

Compare/contrast to Stephon Diggs maintaining possession in the end zone as the defender tries but fails to jar the ball loose.

Also, Josh Allen has now run Steph Diggs, Brian Daboll and Sean McDermott out of town, by going up the back stairs to his owner. I'm glad that makes him likeable in your book. It's never his fault. It's never the Bills fault they lose, it's always the refs. They've changed rules three separate times because poor Josh Allen couldn't win as the rules were currently constituted.

Ironic given how Diggs probably holds on to the ball that Cooks can't/doesn't....

I love how the video stops right where Cooks loses possession.

Indeed, and possession != completing the catch.

Possession is the rule for a runner, not for a catcher.

For a catcher, they have to have control of the ball while surviving contract with the ground.

The catcher needs to perform an act common to the game after the catch, or maintain control long enough for one.

It's not a dead play the instant the knee hits the ground, as it would be for a runner.

McDermott and a lot of fans don't seem to know this.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Messy details emerge on Sean McDermott's fractured relationship with Buffalo Bills GM Brandon Beane | Sporting News

The former Buffalo Bills' head coach was fired on Monday.

www.sportingnews.com

If there is this kind of dysfunction that would explain a lot about the firing.

I called it in my earlier post. Beane convinced Ownership that the roster was better than it was and that McDermott was the problem.

That roster has been garbage since McDermott took over.

 

[Bill Lee]

The problem for Belichick last 5 years has been personnel, whether it's his fault or someone else's. He's also really old to be a head coach at any level, but especially at the college level.

1) Personnel
2) Age
3) Judgement

No one trusts him to run a team any more.

Certainly not an owner that just said he fired McDermott in part so they could have a more vertical power structure.

 

[Bill Lee]

Messy details emerge on Sean McDermott's fractured relationship with Buffalo Bills GM Brandon Beane | Sporting News

The former Buffalo Bills' head coach was fired on Monday.

www.sportingnews.com

If there is this kind of dysfunction that would explain a lot about the firing.

"Despite the common outside view that Josh Allen’s supporting cast was what has mainly held the Bills back in their Super Bowl quest, Beane managed to convince Pegula that coaching was the primary culprit," Carucci writes.

"How he pulled that off is hard to understand, considering McDermott might very well have done the best work of his career in leading the Bills to a 12-5 record with glaring weaknesses at wide receiver and on the defensive line."

"I’m told that during a meeting held five weeks ago between McDermott, Beane and Pegula, the coach pointed out what the roster lacked to win a Super Bowl. I don’t know the specifics McDermott mentioned, but I’m told neither Beane nor Pegula was pleased with McDermott’s assessment."

IMO, this fits the evidence quite well.

Coach takes shots at GM. GM uses his relationship with the owner to undermine the coach. Coach gets fired. GM gets promoted.

 

[fnordcircle]

It is funny but the talk all year was how the Bills had no talent beyond Allen and Cook and that would likely be the reason they don't get to the Super Bowl. So what happens? The Bills lose in the division round and they fire McDermott and promote the guy who has only drafted two Pro Bowlers in 56 draft picks selected.

Did you ever read that story about how a few years ago that one team chaplain guy who left the Pats for Houston got the Houston owner to get into a long prayer session after getting bounced in the postseason?

I think some of these owners get seduced, for lack of a better word, by front office guys who have all the answers in meetings and basically none when you see their rosters on the field.

 

[fnordcircle]

"Despite the common outside view that Josh Allen’s supporting cast was what has mainly held the Bills back in their Super Bowl quest, Beane managed to convince Pegula that coaching was the primary culprit," Carucci writes.

"How he pulled that off is hard to understand, considering McDermott might very well have done the best work of his career in leading the Bills to a 12-5 record with glaring weaknesses at wide receiver and on the defensive line."

"I’m told that during a meeting held five weeks ago between McDermott, Beane and Pegula, the coach pointed out what the roster lacked to win a Super Bowl. I don’t know the specifics McDermott mentioned, but I’m told neither Beane nor Pegula was pleased with McDermott’s assessment."

IMO, this fits the evidence quite well.

Coach takes shots at GM. GM uses his relationship with the owner to undermine the coach. Coach gets fired. GM gets promoted.

The funny thing is Pegula absolutely sucks as an owner and is like, heads and shoulders better than Ross and Woody.

We're so ****ing lucky to have these ****ass owners in our division, swear to God. Imagine if Lurie owned the Jets...

 

[TommyD4207]

Where to you think Sean McDermott ends up??

Vegas would be a fantastic landing spot for him.

 

[TommyD4207]

Messy details emerge on Sean McDermott's fractured relationship with Buffalo Bills GM Brandon Beane | Sporting News

The former Buffalo Bills' head coach was fired on Monday.

www.sportingnews.com

If there is this kind of dysfunction that would explain a lot about the firing.

The coach was correct.

And I think I posted Beane's arrogant call-in to local sports radio earlier.

 

[sb1]

Florio musing about BB to Buffalo.

Can you imagine Bill reporting to Beane? Or Jordon being near that team like she is at UNC? Lol

 

[Simpelton]

Ironic given how Diggs probably holds on to the ball that Cooks can't/doesn't....

He probably does. I like Cooks, but the big criticism of him is his hands are made out of wet tissue paper when it comes to contested catches. Dude can do a lot of damage with his speed, but if Cooks and a DB are both going for the ball, and both get their hands on it, the DB is going to be the one who walks away with it.

Indeed, and possession != completing the catch.

Sort of. Possession is the result of completing the catch. The rules for when a catch turns into possession is very clear, and it absolutely takes a little more than "control."

I realize I'm preaching to the choir here, but the reason MacMillan's pick was a pick was because he got the ball out before Cooks was all the way down. That's why he was able to take it away from him the way he did. There is nothing controversial or confusing about this, unless you're trying your hardest to be confused because you don't like the result.

 

[Rob0729]

Did you ever read that story about how a few years ago that one team chaplain guy who left the Pats for Houston got the Houston owner to get into a long prayer session after getting bounced in the postseason?

I think some of these owners get seduced, for lack of a better word, by front office guys who have all the answers in meetings and basically none when you see their rosters on the field.

I have never hear that one. But owners can be seduced by a lot of different people including their Xbox playing teenage sons with their Madden ratings.

 

[mgteich]

Bills fans should make a copy for their bulletin boards and look at it every day.

The next set of 8 season is very unlikely to be better, or the 8 seasons after that.

 

[p8ryts]

-+My son says the Bills are cursed for the billboard they put up on Rt.1 near Gillette. I don't know if this breaks the curse.

 

[upstater1]

I have an out of the box pick for next Bills coach (& I think Pegula can be convinced it's a great idea). Next guy should be Ralph Krueger. One of the most brilliant football minds & has already lead one of the top 2 or 3 football teams in the world. I bet he'd have no problem relocating to Buffalo from the metropolis he lives in.

 

[sb1]

Yes. Yes I think they should.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Firing McDermott while keeping Beane makes LESS sense today than it made when it happened. And it didn't make sense then.

The working theory is that Beane has Pegula's ear and his confidence (don't ask me why) - literally in the owners box during games - and that McDermott has been known to make some critical comments about the personnel decisions of the GM.

Well, GMs get defensive about things like that and not tough to imagine the GM looking to turn tables and make the coach a scapegoat - even if said coach leads has a track record of having one of the best offenses AND defenses season after season.

All good for us as Patsfans! While it may be one of the best oppportunities among the coaching vacancies with Allen etc. you're also dealing with what Beane and Pegula have put on display, and that's not a help.