Stiddy discussion

[XLIX]

Stidham is so good that he couldn't beat out Mac Jones or the corpse of Cam Newton for a starting job in the 2020/2021 seasons. Then he went to Vegas and couldn't beat Derek Carr, and then went to Denver and couldn't beat the corpse of Russell Wilson, and then last year/this year was passed up by Bo Nix who is just a slightly improved Mac Jones.

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I am getting sick of hearing how great he was during the preseason or how great he looks in practice. If this guy hasn't thrown a pass in 2 years - which he hasn't - then there is a reason for that. There is a reason he has started all of 4 games in his career.

 

[DomCasual]

Very much so and I also live in reality. Only a fool claims Stidham is close the same level as Nix and can operate the offense better. An absolute fool. Its one thing to be positive and cheery for you team, but its something quite different to be delusional. Denver is the #1 team in the AFC because you earned it. They absolutely can win on Sunday, but this Jarrett Stidham delusion and worship needs to stop.

LOL - dude, what are you talking about? Same level as Nix? Where are you getting that? Are you maybe high right now? If so, it's okay - I don't judge. But actually read stuff before you go on these weird rants of yours. Otherwise, you're just wasting everyone's time.

 

[XLIX]

This is the ******** I was talking about.

If he was a legit top 5 backup then he would have been traded and would be starting somewhere.

 

[Ross12]

This is the ******** I was talking about.

If he was a legit top 5 backup then he would have been traded and would be starting somewhere.

What does a "top 5 backup" even mean? That basically means he's like, the #37 ranked QB in the league, essentially. Wow, very scary.

 

[DomCasual]

This is the ******** I was talking about.

If he was a legit top 5 backup then he would have been traded and would be starting somewhere.

Well, we're fixin' to find out. My point is that none of us know. One thing I feel confident in is that he won't be the QB you've ever seen in the past. Young guy, in three systems, doing mop-up stuff and starting the occasional game on short notice. If you think that will be him after three years in the same system, good luck with that. If he is, then everything Payton feels about him has been wrong. And so far, Payton has been pretty spot-on with picking QBs.

No one is saying that he will be better than Nix. Given the choice, I would have Nix playing Sunday, a thousand times out of a thousand.

 

[XLIX]

What does a "top 5 backup" even mean? That basically means he's like, the #37 ranked QB in the league, essentially. Wow, very scary.

IMHO, if a guy is a "top 5 backup", that puts him in the top 30 of QBs in the League. That is why I said if he was a top 5 backup, he'd garner interest from teams and get traded somewhere and would be getting his opportunity to play. Malik Willis, Kirk Cousins, Tanner McKee are your top backups that teams are legit interested in. Jarrett Stidham, not so much.

There is a reason he started 4 games in 7 years. He is NOT a "top 5 backup". He's 3rd string on many teams.

 

[XLIX]

Well, we're fixin' to find out. My point is that none of us know.

No, we do know. There is a reason he has started 4 games in 7 years and absolutely no team in the entire NFL is even remotely interested in him as a starter.

 

[DomCasual]

No, we do know. There is a reason he has started 4 games in 7 years and absolutely no team in the entire NFL is even remotely interested in him as a starter.

Okay. The nice thing is that we're about six days from finding out. Good talk.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

I think the game will be close for a while. Denver isn’t going to go down without a fight. 10-6 type game at the half but we pull away. Stidham just isn’t him imo

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

Well, we're fixin' to find out. My point is that none of us know. One thing I feel confident in is that he won't be the QB you've ever seen in the past. Young guy, in three systems, doing mop-up stuff and starting the occasional game on short notice. If you think that will be him after three years in the same system, good luck with that. If he is, then everything Payton feels about him has been wrong. And so far, Payton has been pretty spot-on with picking QBs.

No one is saying that he will be better than Nix. Given the choice, I would have Nix playing Sunday, a thousand times out of a thousand.

How many QBs who have started 4 games in 7 years have started and won a playoff game? The AFCCG at that. I just don’t think Stidham is going to bring enough juice to the table. Of course Payton is going to hype him up and boost his and the teams confidence. I think you guys are going to fight hard and it won’t be a blowout. Who knows maybe you’ll win but we’ll be the favorites. If you guys do win tho it won’t be because of Stidham

 

[DC Patriots]

I'll counter this with a few points to consider. When Payton signed his contract, the first free agent he approached and signed was Jarrett Stidham. When Stidham's initial contract was up, they made him one of the highest paid backups in the league. For whatever reason, he loves the guy. And he's been in Payton's system for three years now.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't think any of us know what we'll be seeing on Sunday. My guess is that he'll actually run the offense better than Bo Nix did. He's a decent athlete - just nowhere near as mobile as Nix is. My guess is that we'll see a lot of safe throws, with the occasional shot downfield. I'm cautiously optimistic. If your quarterback puts the ball on the ground like he did yesterday, I like our chances.

Well, first of all, welcome fans of other teams who are polite and here to talk football are welcome, as far as I can tell.

You guys had a great season and I’m sorry for you that Nix got hurt. That’s got to be frustrating.

As I see it:

1) The he looked good in preseason argument doesnt hold a lot of weight. He was playing with and against a fair number of folks who are now stocking shelves. In basic defenses.

2) Patriots coaches are very familiar with Stidham, particularly Josh McDaniels who probably knows as well as anyone the plays Stidham can and can’t make so some of the advantages of a guy coming off the bench who’s less scouted and where there’s less film probably aren’t there.

3) He’s a career backup and the reasons you listed earlier aside, he’s never been able to really compete for, much less hold a starting job. And he’s 29. This didn’t happen by accident. He’s just not starting QB good

4) You have a great defense, but not as good as Houston. You have a great offense line. You have good skill players but are potentially playing without some of them. Mile High is a tough place for visitors to play.

5) Patriots run defense, now healthy is excellent, you will need to pass to win and that’s asking a lot of Stidham.

6) Drake Maye has had some struggles, probably secondary to pass protection problems but he is very, very good. He will score on you.

7) I think this will be the last game of the season for you, but we will see.

Again, welcome

 

[TommyD4207]

How many QBs who have started 4 games in 7 years have started and won a playoff game? The AFCCG at that. I just don’t think Stidham is going to bring enough juice to the table. Of course Payton is going to hype him up and boost his and the teams confidence. I think you guys are going to fight hard and it won’t be a blowout. Who knows maybe you’ll win but we’ll be the favorites. If you guys do win tho it won’t be because of Stidham

Payton's schemed up that team to work around Bo Nix's shortcomings all year long.

Maybe Stidham chokes in a big spot, but to me, there's a better chance he game manages and doesn't lose them the game. Not you, but I swear some people think we're going to win by 50 just because it's Stidham instead of Nix.

 

[Ross12]

IMHO, if a guy is a "top 5 backup", that puts him in the top 30 of QBs in the League. That is why I said if he was a top 5 backup, he'd garner interest from teams and get traded somewhere and would be getting his opportunity to play. Malik Willis, Kirk Cousins, Tanner McKee are your top backups that teams are legit interested in. Jarrett Stidham, not so much.

There is a reason he started 4 games in 7 years. He is NOT a "top 5 backup". He's 3rd string on many teams.

He was 3rd string on the Patriots... behind late-30s Brian Hoyer lol

 

[imahobgoblin]

LOL - dude, what are you talking about? Same level as Nix? Where are you getting that? Are you maybe high right now? If so, it's okay - I don't judge. But actually read stuff before you go on these weird rants of yours. Otherwise, you're just wasting everyone's time.

Lol dude. I am not a dude. And maybe you are the one who is high. Or perhaps you can't read.

jdlboot14 said: If you watch Stid in the preseason, he can operate the offense and make the plays.
He's obviously not a game changer, but he can manage the game... and likely better than either Stroud or Herbert did, because he won't have a ton of baggage or pressure for playoff failure. He'll be loose and loving the opportunity.

Imahobgoblin: Hahahahahaha. Preseason shows he can operate an offense and make plays. Hahahahahaha. This is rich. And better than Stroud or Herbert? Oh man this is great stuff. They both had bad games, but the talent level is miles apart. He will be loose and loving it? What do you smoke before you post stuff like this?

DomCasual: I'll counter this with a few points to consider. When Payton signed his contract, the first free agent he approached and signed was Jarrett Stidham. When Stidham's initial contract was up, they made him one of the highest paid backups in the league. For whatever reason, he loves the guy. And he's been in Payton's system for three years now.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't think any of us know what we'll be seeing on Sunday. My guess is that he'll actually run the offense better than Bo Nix did...


Well, well, well Dom, who is on drugs? That would be you. And let me quote you again just so you can remeber what you posted just in case your forget in the last 12 seconds. "My guess is that he'll actually run the offense better than Bo Nix did..." I even put it in orange crayon for you. You can say I am high all you want, but dude, you have a whole lot more going on than just elevation if you write trash like that. Hahahahaha.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

Payton's schemed up that team to work around Bo Nix's shortcomings all year long.

Maybe Stidham chokes in a big spot, but to me, there's a better chance he game manages and doesn't lose them the game. Not you, but I swear some people think we're going to win by 50 just because it's Stidham instead of Nix.

Broncos are going to come to fight. If we pull away, it won’t be early. I think Stidham is going to throw a bad interception somewhere in the game. Maybe two but I think he’ll do enough to manage the game. I think in the 4th quarter we’ll pull away. 24-13 type game that is maybe 17-13 going in the 4th.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Wouldn't be surprised if Stidham is as good as Stroud.

 

[DomCasual]

He was 3rd string on the Patriots... behind late-30s Brian Hoyer lol

As a late-ish round rookie? That's so weird. You'd have thought he should have been the starter. I can't even remember. Who was the starter that year? But you're right. Based on the backing-up-Brian-Hoyer-early-in-his-career-thing, he must suck. Good take.

 

[DomCasual]

Lol dude. I am not a dude. And maybe you are the one who is high. Or perhaps you can't read.

jdlboot14 said: If you watch Stid in the preseason, he can operate the offense and make the plays.
He's obviously not a game changer, but he can manage the game... and likely better than either Stroud or Herbert did, because he won't have a ton of baggage or pressure for playoff failure. He'll be loose and loving the opportunity.

Imahobgoblin: Hahahahahaha. Preseason shows he can operate an offense and make plays. Hahahahahaha. This is rich. And better than Stroud or Herbert? Oh man this is great stuff. They both had bad games, but the talent level is miles apart. He will be loose and loving it? What do you smoke before you post stuff like this?

DomCasual: I'll counter this with a few points to consider. When Payton signed his contract, the first free agent he approached and signed was Jarrett Stidham. When Stidham's initial contract was up, they made him one of the highest paid backups in the league. For whatever reason, he loves the guy. And he's been in Payton's system for three years now.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't think any of us know what we'll be seeing on Sunday. My guess is that he'll actually run the offense better than Bo Nix did...


Well, well, well Dom, who is on drugs? That would be you. And let me quote you again just so you can remeber what you posted just in case your forget in the last 12 seconds. "My guess is that he'll actually run the offense better than Bo Nix did..." I even put it in orange crayon for you. You can say I am high all you want, but dude, you have a whole lot more going on than just elevation if you write trash like that. Hahahahaha.

So, the highlighted part? You think that is suggesting that he will be as good as Nix? Come on, man. The next sentence, I think I said Nix is just much more athletic. In multiple posts here, I have indicated how I feel about the two of them, based on the totality of what they bring.

You understand that I, a middle-aged man, could learn and operate Sean Payton's offense? Maybe in ten years, I could master it better than any player he's ever had. I could go up to the line and know the right play, every time. That doesn't mean I'd have any success with it. Because, you know, I'm not talented that way. I mean, I think I could throw a semi-accurate slant in 7-on-7. So there's that.

Don't blame me that you took one sentence I've posted it, isolated it and presented it completely out of context, and then used it to go on some wild rant. Um, hahahahahaha. Did I do that right?

 

[Ross12]

As a late-ish round rookie? That's so weird. You'd have thought he should have been the starter. I can't even remember. Who was the starter that year? But you're right. Based on the backing-up-Brian-Hoyer-early-in-his-career-thing, he must suck. Good take.

1. He wasn’t a rookie, he was in his 2nd and 3rd seasons
2. The starters were the corpse of Cam Newton who couldn’t throw and then average-at-best Mac Jones who they drafted because they still didn’t believe in Stidham in his 3rd year
3. He was drafted in the 4th round.. not late round
4. Why are so many Broncos fans coming here picking fights this week already lol

 

[imahobgoblin]

So, the highlighted part? You think that is suggesting that he will be as good as Nix? Come on, man. The next sentence, I think I said Nix is just much more athletic. In multiple posts here, I have indicated how I feel about the two of them, based on the totality of what they bring.

You understand that I, a middle-aged man, could learn and operate Sean Payton's offense? Maybe in ten years, I could master it better than any player he's ever had. I could go up to the line and know the right play, every time. That doesn't mean I'd have any success with it. Because, you know, I'm not talented that way. I mean, I think I could throw a semi-accurate slant in 7-on-7. So there's that.

Don't blame me that you took one sentence I've posted it, isolated it and presented it completely out of context, and then used it to go on some wild rant. Um, hahahahahaha. Did I do that right?

You wrote this: "My guess is that he'll actually run the offense better than Bo Nix did..." Its not out of context. There is no twisting. It cannot be interpreted any other way. You wrote it. It says what is says no matter how much you squirm. It is complete and utter delusional foolishness. There is no excuse. Its just hilarious to me anyone could think that, let alone write it.