Patriots Injury News Will Campbell Week 12 Injury [11/26 update: Placed on IR]

[turkeyneck]

Tonga had snaps after he got hurt.


Brendan Schooler is someone we need an update on.

Yeah, Schooler, too. ST dipped noticably when he went out.

Tonga may have been running on adrenaline when he went back in. If it was a pec tear as some have speculated I'd like to hear it was minor enough for him to go in a couple three weeks.

 

[upstater1]

Honestly, they can beat Buffalo without them.
Baltimore will be a slightly bigger challenge, but I think they can beat them too without them. Taller task.

I think it's reversed. Josh Allen on his good day is much more formidable than the current Lamar Jackson.

Lamar is a shell of himself right now.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Meh. I snapped an ACL and didn’t get paid anything, in fact it cost me money. But I’m sure it hurt just as much as those guys hurt.

Oh yeah, of course, they're just the guys who can add up the pros and cons of doing it as a career.

Curious, not arguing your point, but how long did you play? HS + College? Or do you mean, snapped an ACL just in the course of normal living, which happens too? (I remember my mom of blessed memory told me her doctor said she had torn her rotator cuff and I said "jeez Mom, were you throwing high heat into the late innings?" Totally didn't get it. I think it's because she was a Brit.)

 

[Betterthanmost]

You can say that based on what? Genuinely curious

He is a kid that needed to get stronger and better coaching Came to the league playing with his pad level too high. They started to clean it up at TC, he got injured during preseason but is healthy again. His measurables screams potential. He reduced his chances by doing agility drills and scored badly.
He needs the reps to show what he has learned.
Just do research on the kid to see what I see. Being rooting for him for a while and also forgot that we had him lol.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

The idiots got me going. I am just so sick of them and passionate about my team. There are about 4-5 posters who ruin the forum for me and it sometimes spills over.

ima, you went off on me for no freakin reason so take a look at yourself too. I generally like your posts but you contribute to some of the unnecessary drama around here.

 

[PatsfaninBulgaria]

As a starting LT he was near the bottom of the league, but I doubt there are much better backups.

Am wondering why you say he was near the bottom of the league as a starting LT - is that because of any specific numbers? Sacks or hurries, etc.? Or just a general evaluation?

Edit: one source I found says that before this Sunday, Campbell had allowed just one sack and 13 pressures on 234 pass-blocking snaps.
If this is accurate, why do some people insist that he is not a good LT?

 

[n1997y]

Oh yeah, of course, they're just the guys who can add up the pros and cons of doing it as a career.

Curious, not arguing your point, but how long did you play? HS + College? Or do you mean, snapped an ACL just in the course of normal living, which happens too? (I remember my mom of blessed memory told me her doctor said she had torn her rotator cuff and I said "jeez Mom, were you throwing high heat into the late innings?" Totally didn't get it. I think it's because she was a Brit.)

The latter. In my forties I got a dead guys ACL implanted after my knee was twisted apart in a car crash. Came out of anesthesia from the implant with a CPM machine flexing my leg non stop. That was painful. Clinical morphine, ftw!

In hs I was a scrub on the jv sophomore year. Only injury of consequence was a medial meniscus bucket handle tear that locked up a couple of decades later requiring arthroscopy, my first knee surgery. Just after that season my athletic career was derailed by a pickup basketball game injury. I rolled my ankle, and blew a chip out of my talus (ankle bone). The next summer I discovered that it didn’t heal. Found that when I was pitching baseball, because it was my pivot foot. Had to have surgery to remove it and in those days surgery was open joint. That shut me down for my junior year, and when I tried to go out for sports senior year none of the coaches welcomed an inexperienced senior walk on. And my ankle and leg been slightly ****ed ever since. Closest I’ve come to professional athletics is sharing doctors and physical therapists with the pros.

 

[maust]

Damn. Well there goes that idea.

Word has it @One-If-By-Sea looks great in heels so there's that. Although the 'word' was his so take it with a grain of salt

 

[Family]

Am wondering why you say he was near the bottom of the league as a starting LT - is that because of any specific numbers? Sacks or hurries, etc.? Or just a general evaluation?

Edit: one source I found says that before this Sunday, Campbell had allowed just one sack and 13 pressures on 234 pass-blocking snaps.
If this is accurate, why do some people insist that he is not a good LT?

The discussion was Lowe as a backup.

Campbell has been great/good.

 

[ViperGTS]

Word has it @One-If-By-Sea looks great in heels so there's that. Although the 'word' was his so take it with a grain of salt

 

[40yrpatsfan]

Can't rule it out until the MRIs.

The will both miss this week. That much we do know.

They both miss the Giants without question, then the bye is 2 weeks from now, the Bills game is 3 weeks, Ravens 4 weeks, Jets 5 weeks, Phins 6 weeks.

It seems like the Bills game in 3 weeks is too soon for both of them. If either is placed on IR, they miss through the Jets game.

Can we even place both of them on IR for short term return - isn't there a limit on how many of those we can do per year? But assuming we can do at least 1, the reason not to do it is if they think there's a chance of returning in 4 weeks for Baltimore.

 

[n1997y]

He is a kid that needed to get stronger and better coaching Came to the league playing with his pad level too high. They started to clean it up at TC, he got injured during preseason but is healthy again. His measurables screams potential. He reduced his chances by doing agility drills and scored badly.
He needs the reps to show what he has learned.
Just do research on the kid to see what I see. Being rooting for him for a while and also forgot that we had him lol.

Bryant has been a binky of mine since the draft. In college he held down LT on the other end of the line from Membou, so he was no slouch. I’m expecting him to replace Moses as the starting RT whenever Moses retires or the infirmities of aging in the NFL erode his availability. Was slightly surprised Lowe beat him out for LT backup in tc.

 

[n1997y]

Am wondering why you say he was near the bottom of the league as a starting LT - is that because of any specific numbers? Sacks or hurries, etc.? Or just a general evaluation?

Edit: one source I found says that before this Sunday, Campbell had allowed just one sack and 13 pressures on 234 pass-blocking snaps.
If this is accurate, why do some people insist that he is not a good LT?

His arms aren’t long enough. So performance be damned, because of that there are those who are dead set on moving him inside to guard.

 

[imahobgoblin]

ima, you went off on me for no freakin reason so take a look at yourself too. I generally like your posts but you contribute to some of the unnecessary drama around here.

Oh no, thats not true. You fully earned that one.

 

[maust]

I hope it works out for you just keep you're expectations realistic and remember for every Tim Curry




There's 100 Benny Hills

 

[rochrist]

I think it's reversed. Josh Allen on his good day is much more formidable than the current Lamar Jackson.

Lamar is a shell of himself right now.

True, but Baltimore is a much better/stronger team apart from the QB.

 

[mayoclinic]

How can you possibly call yourself a doctor and post this crap? I seriously doubt you are. Its just a shtick for the forum. There are many tests that are done without an MRI. I am lucky enough that have coached football for a while and be on the sideline. Unfortunately, I have see our trainer use the Lachman test to determine if the ACL is torn. They can also use the Anterior Drawer test and the Pivot Shift test. I guarantee you at least one of these tests was done on Campbell on the field. They knew if he tore his ACL by the time he hit the sideline.

To determine a MCL sprain, the trainer uses the valgus stress test and the apprehension sign. Pressure is applied to the outside of the knee to see if the inside of the joint opens up (valgus laxity). The test is performed with the knee slightly flexed and fully extended to assess the ligament and the joint. While the test is being applied they look for a specific muscle reflex sign that indicates an MCL injury.

The extent and magnitude of the injury is determined by an MRI, but the Pats already know if its an ACL, MCL, or both. It just amazes me how a lowly sideline coach and trainer know these things, but someone bragging to be in medicine for 30 years doesn't. And we wonder what is wrong with the healthcare system? The Pats doctors/trainers are not speculating. They actually know. The MRI will tell them the extent. So when Vrabel said this morning on WEEI, "I wouldn’t imagine that Will’s going play in the game. I don’t think that will be something that will happen. That injury is going to probably be more than a week or two.” He was not speculating. If the ACL was torn, we would know already. Vrabel is indicating a sprain, and the extent will be clarified by later today for the team.

You show your idiocy with the arm comment. Go back to the J-E-T-S forum.

Ah, the full Hobgoblin blast. Wondered when I would be the lucky recipient of it.

I can call myself a doctor because I am one. Class if 1995, from a place on Longwood Ave in Boston.

I am NOT an orthopedic surgeon, much less a Sports medicine specialist, but I've worked with many over 30 years, and have taken care of many patients with those injuries. Have discussed this issue many times.

You can do many physical maneuvers to clinically assess a patient, but you really cannot diagnose the grade and severity of the injury without an MRI. Much less so for those watching it on TV, who do not have physical access to the player.

I find it odd that you feel compelled to violently personally attack anyone whose opinion you disagree with. You can disagree without attacking/insulting someone.

The part about Campbell's arms was an obvious joke.

Have never been on the Jets forum in my life. I'm exposed to enough toxins in my profession.

 

[ViperGTS]

Vrabel in his presser just said it wasn't something that should keep him out the rest of the season. I wonder if he is even going on IR.

Speaking of that, I forget the rules. Used to be you would go on IR and that was it. Then it was you could IR anyone and they could come back in season. Now I think it's changed again. So they have to figure that out as well.

He is a tackle. MCL strains can be mitigated with bracing that other skill position players can't use.

 

[Ross12]

Did you get my DM by chance?

I replied to you lol sorry for the delay.

He's married.

LOL, my wife wishes I was that hot of a commodity.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Same people that called the season doomed when Drake sailed a few balls in the preseason, considered us the unquestionable Super Bowl favorite after starting 9-2, and are now back to thinking we’ll lose the rest of our remaining games.

They literally drive themselves crazy living life like this. Not good for your health.

Right on the money.