Patriots Pregame Thread Week 5: Pats @ Buffalo

[PatsFan2]

It's a new offense with new players...It doesn't happen overnight.

Kendrick Bourne could have jelled in this Offense overnight. But we like the alternatives.

 

[Zuma]

Kendrick Bourne could have jelled in this Offense overnight.

He would have... and pushed for him to stay but again...new coaches, offense and players take time to gel.

 

[Real fan 02]

No we don't Twin: Shakir - Coleman and Palmer are better than any three we can put together. I didn't even mention E Moore who's world's better than pur#4: but then again who ain't.

Twin Shakir is a 3rd down guy.. 5th wr on another team.. Coleman can't separate for a guy 6'4.. Palmer is ok... Moore and pop are the same player but pop is not producing... don't forget Twin those guys are playing with a MVP..

 

[denverpatsfan]

Kincaid is better than Henry. What are you smoking today?

 

[PatsFan2]

Twin Shakir is a 3rd down guy.. 5th wr on another team.. Coleman can't separate for a guy 6'4.. Palmer is ok... Moore and pop are the same player but pop is not producing... don't forget Twin those guys are playing with a MVP..

Oh I know Twin: Shakir and Coleman seems to catch everything that comes their way.

 

[PatsFan2]

Kincaid is better than Henry. What are you smoking today?

Yep; Kincaid is better and Younger but H Henry is on pace to have his best year ever. H Henry is Maye's favorite Target.

 

[Real fan 02]

Yep; Kincaid is better and Younger but H Henry is on pace to have his best year ever. H Henry is Maye's favorite Target.

H Henry had to play with Brissett and Bailey Jones... if Kincaid had to play with them he be out the league by now...

 

[Real fan 02]

Kincaid is better than Henry. What are you smoking today?

Everyone is better playing with an MVP.. let's not confuse Kincaid with Brock Bowers though...

 

[Ross12]

I'd trade Dobbs and Vederian Lowe to the Bills for Allen. Don't know if they'd agree to that though...

Honestly I forgot Lowe is even on the roster until you said this.

 

[Real fan 02]

Honestly I forgot Lowe is even on the roster until you said this.

Lowe forgot he was on the roster too.. he showed up at Lowes in Foxborough instead of Gillette by accident..

 

[signbabybrady]

Did Tavai get activated?

He's listed on the injury report I guess just starting the practice window means you have to list him? Or is he on the 53 now?

Week 5 Injury Report: Patriots at Bills

The New England Patriots and the Buffalo Bills announce the following player injuries and practice participation.

www.patriots.com

PS: No one out or Questionable. Milt, Davis, Chaisson, and Tavai questionable.

 

[neuronet]

hoping we don’t embarrass ourselves. A win is way too much to ask for. Go Pats!

 

[Real fan 02]

Did Tavai get activated?

He's listed on the injury report I guess just starting the practice window means you have to list him? Or is he on the 53 now?

Week 5 Injury Report: Patriots at Bills

The New England Patriots and the Buffalo Bills announce the following player injuries and practice participation.

www.patriots.com

Great sign Milt is back at practice we have a shot with him.. without him forget it

 

[Ross12]

RE: Marcus Jones on offense talk... On one hand, the Pats are already doing fairly well offensively and I don't know if they really need to "get cute" adding Jones into the mix right now. But on the other hand, Jones kind of put the league on notice last week with how dynamic he is. It might actually be worth sprinkling him into some plays where they're running an end around or sweep, etc, even just as a decoy, because the defense will be on high alert when he comes into the game and will make sure they dedicate some coverage on him. They've had several really successful plays like that just with the guys they have already, throwing Jones in there a couple times may take that to another level.

Maybe they don't do it right now, but I could see it being something that McDaniels pulls out of his bag at some point.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

Kincaid is better than Henry. What are you smoking today?

Kincaid is better, in what regard?
Youth, draft position, potential?
When it comes to actual on-field production he is not better than Henry.
Maybe he will be, but not yet.

 

[Mack Herron]

Not great.

 

[Thunderhead]

RE: Marcus Jones on offense talk... On one hand, the Pats are already doing fairly well offensively and I don't know if they really need to "get cute" adding Jones into the mix right now. But on the other hand, Jones kind of put the league on notice last week with how dynamic he is. It might actually be worth sprinkling him into some plays where they're running an end around or sweep, etc, even just as a decoy, because the defense will be on high alert when he comes into the game and will make sure they dedicate some coverage on him. They've had several really successful plays like that just with the guys they have already, throwing Jones in there a couple times may take that to another level.

Maybe they don't do it right now, but I could see it being something that McDaniels pulls out of his bag at some point.

Agreed. I don't think Jones should be used on offense regularly, but McDaniels should absolutely have a couple cards up his sleeve to draw when needed - even if only as a decoy. Jones' presence would force any defense to take notice.

 

[Ross12]

Agreed. I don't think Jones should be used on offense regularly, but McDaniels should absolutely have a couple cards up his sleeve to draw when needed - even if only as a decoy. Jones' presence would force any defense to take notice.

I'm imagining, for instance, him lining up in the slot, then stepping back and running into a jet sweep, Maye fakes a handoff then pulls it back and instead tosses it to Henderson who was lined up in the backfield and faked a pass block but instead slipped through the OL as a dumpoff. Most of the defense will have flowed towards Jones, leaving a lot of space on the other side for Henderson and his elite speed.

 

[PatsFan2]

Not great.

Well at least Milton is not listed out yet...

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

I'm imagining, for instance, him lining up in the slot, then stepping back and running into a jet sweep, Maye fakes a handoff then pulls it back and instead tosses it to Henderson who was lined up in the backfield and faked a pass block but instead slipped through the OL as a dumpoff. Most of the defense will have flowed towards Jones, leaving a lot of space on the other side for Henderson and his elite speed.

I've seen this play many, many times. It works less than it doesn't.
That said, we used lots of misdirection last week and it worked well.
The play you mention can work equally as well with Williams running the fake sweep. Buff's D isn't going to pay more attention or assign more people because it's Jones over Williams.
My opinion.