Micah Parsons traded to GB for two 1sts; 4yr, $188m, $136m gtd

[Dec54]

You mean returning to UT?

yes, silly me

 

[Real fan 02]

Hey bud good luck on the season!

Hey buddy!! You guys just got a gem! In Micah huh!

 

[scott99]

It’s a 4 year contract, but really a 3 year deal because you know he will start complaining about his contract after 3 years.

That being said, you’re getting one of the most disruptive defensive players in the NFL in his prime (he’s 26). He is a rare specimen as a player, 6’3” 245 and runs a 4.40, sideline to sideline tackler, 52 sacks in his 1st 4 years. Totally changes the Packers defense. The Packers are built to challenge for a Super Bowl NOW before they traded for Parsons, so you’re basically trading two 1st round picks for a future hall of famer.

They will have to be creative cap wise the next few years, but if it gets them a Super Bowl, it’ll obviously be worth it.

I remember over 30 years ago, a different sport, but the NY Rangers made a bunch of trades around the trade deadline, and won the Cup. One of my friends, complained to me about a player being traded away that he loved, and I said, but it got you the Cup. I would trade any player away if it gets the Pats a Lombardi, don’t care if it was my favorite player.

 

[Lambeau12]

It’s a 4 year contract, but really a 3 year deal because you know he will start complaining about his contract after 3 years.

That being said, you’re getting one of the most disruptive defensive players in the NFL in his prime (he’s 26). He is a rare specimen as a player, 6’3” 245 and runs a 4.40, sideline to sideline tackler, 52 sacks in his 1st 4 years. Totally changes the Packers defense. The Packers are built to challenge for a Super Bowl NOW before they traded for Parsons, so you’re basically trading two 1st round picks for a future hall of famer.

They will have to be creative cap wise the next few years, but if it gets them a Super Bowl, it’ll obviously be worth it.

I remember over 30 years ago, a different sport, but the NY Rangers made a bunch of trades around the trade deadline, and won the Cup. One of my friends, complained to me about a player being traded away that he loved, and I said, but it got you the Cup. I would trade any player away if it gets the Pats a Lombardi, don’t care if it was my favorite player.

Dallas will be average I think this year.

 

[scott99]

Dallas will be average I think this year.

It’s very possible. Bad move by them.

 

[Lambeau12]

It’s very possible. Bad move by them.

They were just as good with Rush last year as they were with Prescott the year before.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Dallas will be average I think this year.

Dallas was looking up at the Eagles and probably the Cobra Commanders, just in their division. Dak is 32 and isn't taking them to the promised land. I think they're looking at a rebuild sooner than later and two additional first round picks might give them the ability to jumpstart that.

 

[ScottishPatriots]

In what universe is 2 first round picks "nothing"?

2 first round picks isn't always the same though is it, if they traded him to Jacksonville for example you could see a possibility of where the Jags are still the Jags and it ends up being 2 x top 10 picks.

If Love doesn't get hurt the Packers are winning at least 9-10 games, regularly there's only 16-20 first round graded players on teams board on draft night so the Cowboys could easily be picking 2 second round talents on their own board for a 3x All Pro who's 26, you have to factor that into the "2 first round picks" part of it.

None of this happens if Jerry just ponies up the money at the end of year 3 like he should have, the Parsons contract would be about 10m a year cheaper than it is now and less than what TJ Watt is making if this was done 12 months ago.

 

[Raccoonsuit]

Yeah I'm not as down on this trade as the media is. The salary cap keeps rising but almost $50 a year for Parsons is a ton of money. I guess clearing out that wr room saved the packers money.

Dallas doesn't look like it's going anywhere so why tie up your cap for a great player now?

 

[RobertWeathers]

It’s very possible. Bad move by them.

I didn't see them winning 12 game again w/ Parsons anyway.

 

[TommyD4207]

I didn't see them winning 12 game again w/ Parsons anyway.

True, although at least it exists as a possibility now that he's there. Without him they'd have struggled to get to 10. Justin Fields tore them up with checkdowns.

 

[Lambeau12]

True, although at least it exists as a possibility now that he's there. Without him they'd have struggled to get to 10. Justin Fields tore them up with checkdowns.

We do have a rough schedule. We play road games against Pittsburgh, Denver, Dallas, Arizona and of course our divisional rivals which are no slouch anymore. Our home games include Washington, Philly, Cincy and Baltimore. We really need to win the games were supposed to.

 

[jdlboot14]

I'll concede that this may help GB compete with DET for the division - they'll probably both be around 11-12 games this year.

BUT, giving up so much draft capital has proven so dangerous, and so seldom profitable. Packers are not winning the SB this year or who knows if anytime the next 5 years. My prediction: Parsons will be gone before they get to SB again.

 

[patchick]

At any rate a salary like that IS going to impact what you can do elsewhere on your roster. It is STILL true that for every dollar you give one player, you have one less dollar for everyone else. You can play some delaying tricks, but the cap is NOT crap. It comes due for every team.

Plus by giving away two first-round picks, you're losing a chance at two quality cost-controlled players, so it's potentially a double cap hit. And over time, most teams are weakened by giving up multiple high picks, even when the player acquired is a home run.

But it makes sense that you have to give up a lot for a rare talent. Those two future picks are very unlikely to be Parsons-level impact players. And GB is now immediately a team to be reckoned with--while Dallas was never heading to the Superbowl this year, so it makes sense for them to load up for the future.

So...no winner or loser, I think. Just a fair trade. One that makes sense for a team that thinks Parsons could be the missing piece to put them over the top. Which is not the Patriots.

 

[ErniesPinkStripes]

Dallas was looking up at the Eagles and probably the Cobra Commanders, just in their division. Dak is 32 and isn't taking them to the promised land. I think they're looking at a rebuild sooner than later and two additional first round picks might give them the ability to jumpstart that.

Getting Arch Manning will be Jerry's last big move

 

[Water Boy]

I didn't see them winning 12 game again w/ Parsons anyway.

They would just flame out in the playoffs as usual.

I wouldn't want the Patriots to spend that much draft capital and salary cap on one player on defense.

 

[signbabybrady]

I'll concede that this may help GB compete with DET for the division - they'll probably both be around 11-12 games this year.

BUT, giving up so much draft capital has proven so dangerous, and so seldom profitable. Packers are not winning the SB this year or who knows if anytime the next 5 years. My prediction: Parsons will be gone before they get to SB again.

You very well probably are right I mean getting to a SB is extremely hard. But I think they are in the right place to make a move like this where it really could put them over the top. Compared to say the Bears when they did it for Mack or even compared to us now even though I wanted him.

 

[BadMoFo]

Dallas will be average I think this year.

They were gonna be average with or without Micah. But now they have more opps to build for the future.

 

[Water Boy]

Plus by giving away two first-round picks, you're losing a chance at two quality cost-controlled players, so it's potentially a double cap hit. And over time, most teams are weakened by giving up multiple high picks, even when the player acquired is a home run.

But it makes sense that you have to give up a lot for a rare talent. Those two future picks are very unlikely to be Parsons-level impact players. And GB is now immediately a team to be reckoned with--while Dallas was never heading to the Superbowl this year, so it makes sense for them to load up for the future.

So...no winner or loser, I think. Just a fair trade. One that makes sense for a team that thinks Parsons could be the missing piece to put them over the top. Which is not the Patriots.

Green Bay drafts well, so who knows? Maybe they can navigate not having a number one pick until 2028.

 

[Water Boy]

They were gonna be average with or without Micah. But now they have more opps to build for the future.

They can get 2 more first rounders by trading Dak and ushering in the Joe Milton experience with 6 first round picks over the next two years.