Micah Parsons traded to GB for two 1sts; 4yr, $188m, $136m gtd

[UGAPatsfan]

I'm probably in the minority but I think this is a lose-lose trade.

GB: They give up two first rounders likely around pick #28, and Clark. In return, the odds of winning the Super Bowl increased from ~ 5% (+1,850) to ~ 7% (+1,400). So the markets, at the moment are saying there is 93% they don't win the Super Bowl this year and the odds of winning only increased 2%. This was for the opportunity to pay Parsons ~ $47mm AAV per year (don't know all contract details yet). $47mm or 17% of the salary cap or 34% of salary cap for defense (assume 50/50 split for discussion). This doesn't seem the way to build a sustainably excellent franchise (see KC Chiefs, Baltimore Ravens). Parson's feels like an overpay but not sure. Injury risk is also not inconsequential when the player takes up so much cap space.

Dallas: It seems like it would have been challenging to pay Dak, Lamb, & Parsons such a large % of the salary cap and expect to be competitive year in and year out. So I can appreciate the logic of trading Parsons but the compensation seems lite. It's a tough sell to the fans and a bad look for Jones. Feels a bit like the Rafael Devers trade from Dallas standpoint. I think Dallas fans (and Red Sox fans) are wondering how come we didn't we get more.

Eagles gave up a 1st & 3rd I think for AJ Brown but only $32mm AAV and it worked for them. And Parson's is a better player. So that seems like a reasonable counterpoint. Maybe it's the $47mm AAV that is bothering me. Also, I'm surpised how little GB super bowl odds increase, very little impact. Maybe Parson's will attract other veteran free agents willing to play at below market contracts.

Curious what others think as I'm still trying to wrap my mind around this.

Exactly what I was thinking. Odd trade where I feel everyone but the player lost.

 

[patfanken]

So many ways to look at this trade. The one which isn't being mentioned enough is the supposed 4 yr. $47MM/yr deal. At some point soon the cap is going to at least slow down its rapid rise and salaries with start to stabilize. (I can't help but remember that in the year I came close to playing in the league the base salary was in the $14,000 range. BTW that would have be unbelievable because it was TWICE what I was earning as a teacher back then)

At any rate a salary like that IS going to impact what you can do elsewhere on your roster. It is STILL true that for every dollar you give one player, you have one less dollar for everyone else. You can play some delaying tricks, but the cap is NOT crap. It comes due for every team.

But on this trade, there is no doubt that Parsons is a great individual player and plays an impactful position. He has evolved into a guy who can play anywhere on the first 2 levels of the defense. He's as valuable a guy you can have on defense. 2 first round picks SHOULD get you at least 2 average NFL starters in the 20/30 range. It could be better... or worse, but that should be the mean. Clark is an all pro DT and at 30 should have 2-3 more elite years. Parson's should have 5-6 elite years going forward.

It is hard to measure but it has to be included in this deal, that is the positive effect gaining the cap space from NOT having to pay Parsons. If in some future time, Dallas, brings on another big money guy because they can, it will have to be added to the mix.

So in the end, it seems to me to be a decent deal for all. Not as good as the Oakland deal for Mack, but not horrible because you cannot forget about the impact the reduced cap brings. The money you don't pay Parsons could bring you 2-3 seriously expensive FA's

 

[BobDigital]

I know this was to pump Micah, but boy look at Aaron Donald

2300+ snaps, from the DT position, and hanging with with pure pass rushers

That guy might actually one of the Goats next to T. Lawrance

I think there need to be a new stat. Call it disruption rate or something. Cause we know not all pressures are equal.

Getting a pressure off the edge at 3 seconds and the QB has a clear window and time to make his read is clearly not the same than A-Aron Donald blowing up the middle of the pocket in one second and forcing the QB to run for his life or toss it away. It be nice to know how often a play actually effects the play.

 

[Pape]

It would have been our next 2 first round picks (Generously in the mid-late teens of the first round) and Christian Barmore. That's the package.

Barmore? lol, wtf... the Pack sent 'em 30 year old journeyman DT Kenny Clark... not sending Barmore lol... they accepted chuck, and you wanna give away sirloin? why would you overpay like that? kenny clark is like us sending the equivalent of Deatrich Wise or Davon Godchaux... hell, i'd send em Milt, no questions asked...

sure losing the firsts hurts a bit but you are getting the best defensive player in the league, so you really only are losing losing 1 extra pick...

im doing this deal all day long

 

[TommyD4207]

Barmore? lol, wtf... the Pack sent 'em 30 year old journeyman DT Kenny Clark... not sending Barmore lol... they accepted chuck, and you wanna give away sirloin? why would you overpay like that? kenny clark is like us sending the equivalent of Deatrich Wise or Davon Godchaux... hell, i'd send em Milt, no questions asked...

sure losing the firsts hurts a bit but you are getting the best defensive player in the league, so you really only are losing losing 1 extra pick...

im doing this deal all day long

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Multiple-time pro-bowler making 20+ million/yr.
"Journeyman"

Just say you don't watch games.

 

[Uptown]

At the end of the day, Dallas wasn’t winning the SB (nor their division) anyway, so….

On the other hand, GB needs to win NOW…

 

[Pape]

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Multiple-time pro-bowler making 20+ million/yr.
"Journeyman"

Just say you don't watch games.

Two out of those three nods were as an injury replacement... the first and last... couldn't confirm the middle one... but i'd hazard a guess...

Regardless, by your logic, we should have kept Mac Jones because he's a pro bowl QB...

Kenny Clark is a 30 year old DT, moved because he had no guaranteed dollars left on his contract... whose playing time has decreased over the past three years...

It's not, and never will be, about player equivalency, it was about the picks...

Please, gain some perspective...

 

[KCSVEN]

So in the end, it seems to me to be a decent deal for all. Not as good as the Oakland deal for Mack, but not horrible because you cannot forget about the impact the reduced cap brings. The money you don't pay Parsons could bring you 2-3 seriously expensive FA's

Seems pretty comparable. Bears got 2 firsts for Mack but did not get a player but improved draft position by getting a 2 and a 5 for a 3 and a 6. Very good comparison and very similar deals.

 

[ScottishPatriots]

Packers won the deal, unless Love gets hurt that's 2 picks in the 20's and based on decades of draft history one of whom probably won't even be an NFL player and the other will be nowhere near as good as Parsons.

It's only money the cap won't be a factor "cap strapped" teams have been kicking the can down the road for years, smart teams put money into future years cause the cap is always going up the only reason the Patriots operate cash to cap is because Kraft won't spend the money.

People get blinded by two first round picks, half of them can't play for a start and the dream when you have one is to pick someone as good as Parsons if they did this deal last year he's a Cowboy for about 35 million a year, Jerry Jones waited and waited the price only goes up.

 

[TomPatriot]

Nah. Troy was terrible in coverage, but he made big plays around the LOS, Adams was just **** everywhere. And believe me, I'm not a Troy fan. I use to look forward to playing Pitt cause I knew Brady would expose him in coverage every single time.

Adams was like Dugger - a classic strong safety. The Hawks just overpaid for him.

 

[Real fan 02]

The Bengals got exactly what they wanted - no future guaranteed money... the 3 year deal had zero guaranteed dollars past year 1. that's why hendrickson turned it down.

Wich i don't blame him.. likely his last chance to cash in.. good for him make Brown go into those deep pockets.

 

[Real fan 02]

Nah. Troy was terrible in coverage, but he made big plays around the LOS, Adams was just **** everywhere. And believe me, I'm not a Troy fan. I use to look forward to playing Pitt cause I knew Brady would expose him in coverage every single time.

That's right, also Le Beau never changed up his defense, pitt lined up and did what they did and never made adjustments.

I always root for guys to get paid. However guy's agents should advise them on antics.. remember when Chris Jones was at the game eating popcorn during his contract dispute, Micah laying on the training bench.. guys have to be a bit more professional sometimes.. on the safety play.. I'm 100 confident Vrabel can extract every ounce of talent out of Woodson.. Vrabel coached Kevin Byard to become an all pro safety in Tennessee

 

[Dec54]

In what universe is 2 first round picks "nothing"?

In Sams

Low first rounders in the 22-32 range vs for a dynamic game changing sure fire pro bowl disruptor.

“Nothing” was meant as hyperbole, but in the end these low first rounders are far from a sure thing
Parsons is a sure thing at one of the ganes most important position and in his prime

If its hyperbole and not meant to be taken seriously, why the **** post it?

 

[Lambeau12]

That's right, also Le Beau never changed up his defense, pitt lined up and did what they did and never made adjustments.

I always root for guys to get paid. However guy's agents should advise them on antics.. remember when Chris Jones was at the game eating popcorn during his contract dispute, Micah laying on the training bench.. guys have to be a bit more professional sometimes.. on the safety play.. I'm 100 confident Vrabel can extract every ounce of talent out of Woodson.. Vrabel coached Kevin Byard to become an all pro safety in Tennessee

Hey bud good luck on the season!

 

[Triumph]

2 first rounders and $40mil per? Love the player, but mid 20s with a new injury for a guy who’s going to eventually be a pass rush specialist alone

Dallas won this hard

Sure did.

The 2026 draft is rumored to be loaded. Lots of QBs and Dallas might be shopping for one, but also good players will slide down the draft board into the 20's.

 

[Lambeau12]

Sure did.

The 2026 draft is rumored to be loaded. Lots of QBs and Dallas might be shopping for one, but also good players will slide down the draft board into the 20's.

Who do you guys think won this trade overall?

 

[Triumph]

In Sams

If its hyperbole and not meant to be taken seriously, why the **** post it?

The 2026 draft looks to be deep so top talent should drop into the 20s.

Jerry did the right thing. Dallas can package 1sts and move up for Arch Manning if he declares or sit tight and get the next Parsons on his rookie contract.

 

[Triumph]

Who do you guys think won this trade overall?

Dallas unless GB wins the SB in the next 2 years.

 

[Dec54]

The 2026 draft looks to be deep so top talent should drop into the 20s.

Jerry did the right thing. Dallas can package 1sts and move up for Arch Manning if he declares or sit tight and get the next Parsons on his rookie contract.

Arch Manning could already be off the board and not available to trade.

 

[Triumph]

Arch Manning could already be off the board and not available to trade.

You mean returning to UT?