TreyVeyon Henderson dominates Patriots training camp: Is he our RB1?

[Triumph]

That’s 7.0 yards per CARRY. So that’s just running the ball, which is fantastic. He averaged 10.5 yards per catch. So he averaged 7.6 yards per touch. They really didn’t use him that much as a receiver, 27 catches for 284 yards. I wouldn’t be surprised if he doubles that as a Patriot as a rookie. I think they will use him way more as a receiver than Ohio State did.

Yup

NE has the 31st NFL offense until they show change when the games are real. Why were they ranked 31st? Inconsistent blocking and lack of receiving options. Henderson fills both roles.

I envision Henderson as the next James White.

The last Pats SB season had White with 751 receiving yards 7 TDs and 425 rush yards 5 TDs.

 

[rkarp1]

If you start from the assumption that you want your RBs to split the load about 50/50, which I think most teams do, outside of having a Barkley or mccaffrey, the question becomes which 50 should it be. Certainly not alternating regardless of situation, that robs you of getting players in their best roles

So you start with 3rd down and “passing mode” such as 2 minute offense, or playing from behind and needing to throw a lot. I’d say that’s is maybe 25% of the offense. That’s Henderson.
So the other other 75% should be 2 to 1 Stevenson. These are the first down runs, the clock killing, the regular first and second down.
So Henderson subs in every third drive.

By doing this you have Stevenson in his best role, Henderson in an explosive role but also getting touched in the regular base offense.

Ultimately y develop a no huddle offense with Henderson as the RB and pull that out 3-4 times per game and really take advantage of his strengths by spreading the field to create running lanes as well as isolating him as a receiver.

One part of Henderson game that we are going to LOVE is the screen game. Of course we can’t overuse it, but he is excellent in the screen game, and that’s not very common in college.

I disagree
snaps per game will be predicated on the opposing teams defensive personnel, the score and time remaining on the clock.
I have seen Stevenson 2 times this summer. maybe he is lighter and faster, but it was NOT noticeable the times I watched. he is still a between the tackles, yards after contact back, that catches the ball out of the back field very well, and blocks well.

Henderson I also saw 2 times. he is different. he is arguably the fastest guy on the field, and can take the edge against most anyone. I did not see him run between the tackles much at all. he also runs routes like a WR, and his match up's against LB's in the passing game will be fun.

he is nothing like White running the ball. White imo, sets the bar for a back in the passing game. blocking and receiving. Henderson could be at that level. but as a runner, Henderson is at a very different level

 

[Real fan 02]

these labels are meaning less. 3rd down back means nothing.
whats a big play situation? Henderson creates big plays.
opposition. matchups. score. will dictate when Henderson is on the field. will vary game to game. I expect given health, he will be on the field for between 35 and 55% on that games snaps

Agreed. I mentioned about him being a feature back.. when I say that meaning he's used how Gibbs and Williams are used in thie offenses. I see Josh using him in alot of spread formations

Henderson is also a great blocker that will always keep him on the field. Henderson and rham could be a nice duo.. it could also help rham where some pressure is taken off him where he doesn't have to be the offense like he has been past few seasons.

 

[patfanken]

While James was an exceptional receiver, let's not forget he was just an adequate runner at best. In fact the best run I remember him having was the 2 yd game winner at the superbowl vs Atlanta where he showed a drive and 2nd effort we didn't always see.

Henderson at his ceiling is Christian McCaffrey who, when he is healthy is the key that unlocks the Niner offense. His floor is James White, a fine 3rd down RB, who ran great routes, caught the ball well and was OK after the catch and took a couple of years to come into his own.

We will all be happy if he winds up with a similar career as White, but I think Henderson's ceiling is much higher. Again think Christian McCaffrey.

BTW- Interesting note that little is coming out about Henderson's OSU RB cohort. (not even practicing? )

 

[Real fan 02]

Yup

NE has the 31st NFL offense until they show change when the games are real. Why were they ranked 31st? Inconsistent blocking and lack of receiving options. Henderson fills both roles.

I envision Henderson as the next James White.

The last Pats SB season had White with 751 receiving yards 7 TDs and 425 rush yards 5 TDs.

Agreed white himself says Henderson is much faster then he was. White was red shirted essentially his rookie year.. there's no way he Henderson isn't going to not be on the field. I can see formations with Henderson and Williams on the field together that's speed defenses have to respect. Meanwhile the middle is wide open and guys like pop, Henry diggs will feast.

 

[Real fan 02]

While James was an exceptional receiver, let's not forget he was just an adequate runner at best. In fact the best run I remember him having was the 2 yd game winner at the superbowl vs Atlanta where he showed a drive and 2nd effort we didn't always see.

Henderson at his ceiling is Christian McCaffrey who, when he is healthy is the key that unlocks the Niner offense. His floor is James White, a fine 3rd down RB, who ran great routes, caught the ball well and was OK after the catch and took a couple of years to come into his own.

We will all be happy if he winds up with a similar career as White, but I think Henderson's ceiling is much higher. Again think Christian McCaffrey.

BTW- Interesting note that little is coming out about Henderson's OSU RB cohort. (not even practicing? )

Agreed. Henderson to me is more of the kyren Williams, Gibbs model.. his game is a bit more dynamic than Macaffre.. although Macaffre is awesome he's a bigger back and is used between the tackles... Henderson is a fantastic blocker as well... Henderson his build and ability are every bit of what a dynamic weapon is in the 2025 NFL.

 

[Toofy]

I am happy he looks promising . He was my number 1 binkie to be taken after round 1 as I knew it would be too high to take him at 4 and we needed a LT or Wr1 more than RB.

 

[Ring 6]

I disagree
snaps per game will be predicated on the opposing teams defensive personnel, the score and time remaining on the clock.
I have seen Stevenson 2 times this summer. maybe he is lighter and faster, but it was NOT noticeable the times I watched. he is still a between the tackles, yards after contact back, that catches the ball out of the back field very well, and blocks well.

Henderson I also saw 2 times. he is different. he is arguably the fastest guy on the field, and can take the edge against most anyone. I did not see him run between the tackles much at all. he also runs routes like a WR, and his match up's against LB's in the passing game will be fun.

he is nothing like White running the ball. White imo, sets the bar for a back in the passing game. blocking and receiving. Henderson could be at that level. but as a runner, Henderson is at a very different level

Of course game situation will dictate which “mode” they are in but the basic breakdown I gave will end up over the course of the season about a 50/50 split. They aren’t counting snaps to make them even, even is the end result of the way they structure who plays when.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I am happy he looks promising . He was my number 1 binkie to be taken after round 1 as I knew it would be too high to take him at 4 and we needed a LT or Wr1 more than RB.

Same here, I was ecstatic when they picked him.

 

[jlu52]

Some interesting comparisons between White & Henderson. Both shared the load with another back in college. Henderson was more explosive than White was in college, but White was more elusive. However you do it, pure speed or elusiveness, you can be an explosive weapon in McDaniels’ offense if you grasp the offense quickly and can pass block.

I feel Henderson is ahead of White as a rookie. Let’s not forget White was pretty much redshirted his rookie season. Once Vereen left after SB 49 (what a great performance by him), White took over that role.

Worst case scenario, Henderson is the new James White with great straight line speed. Maybe the speediest back we’ve had in decades. Best case, he’s a do it all RB who eventually grabs the starting job from Stevenson in 2026. I do feel Henderson is stronger than his 5’11” 210 measurements.

Henderson is definitely strong. He regularly flattens guys bigger than him, protecting the QB in the pocket. He's fearless at that job, and terrific already at it.

 

[scott99]

I was thinking about the fight that Vrabel jumped into in the practice with Washington, and it brought something to mind from the recent past.

The fight was between Henderson and Von Miller, and my guess is that Miller didn’t appreciate a block Henderson laid on him.

Well, a story came out from a joint practice with another team where the opposing players were telling the Pats players that they needed to rein in one player who was playing balls to the wall.

That player?

Gronk.

As I recall he turned out OK.

Imagine the horror of a player seeing a 6’6” 265 pound beast heading their way with bad intentions, in a joint practice ? Must’ve been horrifying. And then the same guy beats the opponent on a 25 yard seam pass later in practice.

 

[n1997y]

Imagine the horror of a player seeing a 6’6” 265 pound beast heading their way with bad intentions, in a joint practice ? Must’ve been horrifying. And then the same guy beats the opponent on a 25 yard seam pass later in practice.

Taking him out of the club

 

[Triumph]

Agreed white himself says Henderson is much faster then he was. White was red shirted essentially his rookie year.. there's no way he Henderson isn't going to not be on the field. I can see formations with Henderson and Williams on the field together that's speed defenses have to respect. Meanwhile the middle is wide open and guys like pop, Henry diggs will feast.

You cant coach youth and speed.

 

[rogerthat]

I see a little bit of Curtis Martin in Henderson. It's the squirmy knack of not allowing the defense to get a solid hit on him. Could be around for a long time.

 

[JoeSixPat]

BTW- Interesting note that little is coming out about Henderson's OSU RB cohort. (not even practicing? )

He's trying out for The Longest Yard 3 - he's not so speedy when it comes to working his way through the justice system.

Browns RB Quinshon Judkins waives right to speedy trial

Browns second-round pick Quinshon Judkins has not been with the team since his July arrest for misdemeanor battery/domestic violence in Fort Lauderdale, Florida and it remains unclear when the running back's situation might change.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[Joey007]

Henderson had looked more sudden than any running we have had here since Robert Edward’s rookie season here

This tracks when you consider the fact Bill never really looked for blazing speed. (unless it was a ST type)

Was always bringing in more powerful/balanced backs. Smith, Dillon, Maroney, Taylor, Law Firm, Ridley, Blount, Michel…

 

[grux]

If you want to look at RB size, Lesean McCoy was 'only' 5-11 210 lbs and an all-pro in his prime.

With a professional weight training program I feel like Henderson can easily gain another 5-10 lbs of muscle without losing speed.

Now I'm not ready to say that Henderson will duplicate the accomplishments of a McCoy, but when you watch him go you can tell he's definitely going to be a headache for NFL defenses to handle.

Walter Payton was 5-10 and his playing weight was around 200LBS. I am definitely excited to see what Henderson will do when the real games start.

 

[Joey007]

I’ve drank the kool-aid. Just used my Draft Kings rewards bucks on a future for Henderson +1250 season rushing yards.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

henderSon, stevenSon, gibSon

 

[scott99]

I see a little bit of Curtis Martin in Henderson. It's the squirmy knack of not allowing the defense to get a solid hit on him. Could be around for a long time.

I don’t see it. Henderson uses his straight line speed to do what he does. Martin was one of the most elusive backs in history, great cut back runner.

Henderson doesn’t use elusiveness or cut back as a tool as much. Hell, I think of Henderson’s only carry, an 18 yard run, you know Martin would’ve used his cut back agility to cut back to the middle of the field to try to get more yards. Not attacking Henderson in any way, shape or form, just think he’s more of a straight line runner. I love his combativeness too, loved how he attacked defenders.

The kick return showed some elusiveness, and it comes at full speed too ! I think he’s faster than his 40 time. Sometimes players don’t measure as fast as they really are, like in the 40 yard dash, sometimes they underperform. I know Kyle Williams was disappointed at his 4.40 time, imagine that ? When you watch their film, you can see their breakaway speed.