Post Your Way too Early Season Predictions For Maye/Receivers

[One-If-By-Sea]

My mistake, and Wolf EOY.

You also forgot EVP of Football Business Robyn Glaser.

 

[n1997y]

You also forgot EVP of Football Business Robyn Glaser.

I thought she’s gone?

Or did I miss the closing /s ?

 

[captain stone]

I think you’re wrong on Campbell because he’s not only an exceptional athlete with more than enough size for the position, but he’s also known to be extremely hardworking and coachable. So any technique issues he had in college will go away as a pro. And I have seen more than enough players who weren’t perfect fits with the metrics, but end up great pros because of all of their attributes, hard work, and football sense. That said they also need him to pan out, because next year’s left tackle class is once again weak, and free agency will be devoid at the position as well.

Stumpy's problem isn't technique.

 

[captain stone]

Last year has nothing to do with this years offense. Improvement does not require adding Hall of Famers
This team is its own team, it bears no hangover from last year. They start fresh, not with a foot in a hole.

Ironically you seem to accept that so you proceed to try and trash the players. Wingspan, Jesus.

What they do this year will have absolutely nothing to do with last year.

Wingspan Matters.

 

[p8ryts]

A pessimist's guide to the 2025 New England Patriots​

Story by Bruce Ewing, Yardbarker

With a new head coach, an offensive coordinator on his third stint with the team and a host of player additions, Patriots fans may be feeling optimistic about next season, but here’s why they should lower expectations.

Coaching

Former Patriots linebacker Jerod Mayo couldn’t fill Bill Belichick’s shoes in 2024 and was fired as head coach after leading the team to a 4-13 record. He’s been replaced by Mike Vrabel, who also played linebacker for the team and served as head coach of the Titans from 2018-2023.

Full article:

A pessimist's guide to the 2025 New England Patriots

With a new head coach, an offensive coordinator on his third stint with the team and a host of player additions, Patriots fans may be feeling optimistic about next season, but here’s why they should lower expectations.

www.yardbarker.com

We’re not saying Maye won’t be good, but until he hits Jones’ numbers, we remain skeptical.

 

[Ring 6]

Wingspan Matters.

Show me and even describe to me anything an offensive tackle does on the football field that is dependent upon outstretching his arms horizontally to their limit. I’ll wait

 

[JohnJH]

To keep things simple, I'm going to go with (barring injury/injuries): A better output than last season. Hopefully.

 

[Dec54]

A pessimist's guide to the 2025 New England Patriots
Story by Bruce Ewing, Yardbarker

With a new head coach, an offensive coordinator on his third stint with the team and a host of player additions, Patriots fans may be feeling optimistic about next season, but here’s why they should lower expectations.

Coaching

Former Patriots linebacker Jerod Mayo couldn’t fill Bill Belichick’s shoes in 2024 and was fired as head coach after leading the team to a 4-13 record. He’s been replaced by Mike Vrabel, who also played linebacker for the team and served as head coach of the Titans from 2018-2023.

Full article:

A pessimist's guide to the 2025 New England Patriots

With a new head coach, an offensive coordinator on his third stint with the team and a host of player additions, Patriots fans may be feeling optimistic about next season, but here’s why they should lower expectations.

www.yardbarker.com

We’re not saying Maye won’t be good, but until he hits Jones’ numbers, we remain skeptical.

Is that the "Royal" we?

 

[Salsalife]

No hangover you say? They replaced all 11 starters and every back up? This offense has had a talent issue for going on 4 years now, lousy blocking in both the run and the pass which leads to receivers getting **** for separation. Yes they are getting a fresh start and I hope they take full advantage of it but guys like Owenu, Henry, Rham, Strange, Moses, Bradberry, and Hooper are pretty much known quantities. None of them are going to suddenly be All pros or probowlers due to a fresh start. They are average (ish) starters, which don't get me wrong I fully understand you need about 50% of your starters to be otherwise you can't afford them, but that's what I mean by last years offense is the starting point. The guys they added are not going to turn one of the worst offenses in the league into one of the best. Too many holes and not enough worthwhile FA's in positions of need.

I didn't trash the players, at no point did I say they suck, they are garbage, they shouldn't even be on the field *cough* Jacobs *cough* Newhouse *cough*. I merely pointed out that each of them have question marks on if they will pan out and be what we need them to be. Some of them have bigger question marks then others. Like Diggs for instance, fully healed bought in and is the center of the offense, could be a probowler again 1k yards 10 TD kind of impact. That knee injury lingers and like the vast majority of players who get the surgery he had it won't be until next year that he gets his burst back and fully trusts the knee to cut like he used to. That's not trashing him, I'm sure he is working as hard as he can to get back, its bringing up the real possibility he might be part of the 50% that won't work out.

I already went into the reasons Campbell's wingspan is concerning with you and you dismissed it as "I've done my research, I have my opinion, nothing you have said will change that" so I won't waste my time pointing it out again. There is a reason unlike Alt last year Campbell was not a no brainer rush to the podium top 5 pick. LOVE his athleticism and I am rooting for him to prove me very wrong but having watched his tape I think guys at the NFL level are going to give him fits on outside speed rushes with an inside counter move. Still should be better then Lowe though.

I agree. This wrecked bottom feeder team needs great starters. Total rebuilding training camp and that's the biggest issue. It it it can be done now. The 2nd year qb is the head of the snake. He will dictate our future, he's the franchise. The yard totals are really an irrelevant prediction i.m.o but it does show who we feel should produce. Maye will have presnap decisions, 3 seconds and hopefully (Accurate throws) into favorable matchups from players who get OPEN!

Early Prediction for recievers from me : None for now.
Who will I listen too intensely:
Patriots training camp coverage! Super accurate, best in the business for Patriots. They been there, done that. They will weed out the pretenders for us......

 

[State]

If Maye becomes a good QB like many project him to, the Bills are in serious trouble.

Yes, I agree. The Patriots defense should be very good. Possibly elite.

But this statement by TRM is 100% correlated to the health of Hunter Henry. If he goes down for a long spell, it will hurt the offense.

Henry and Hooper are on the wrong side if 30. There is no Y TE except for the free agent rookie from Alabama, CJ Dipre, who should have the advantage over Jaheim Bell.

TE is critical to both Maye psychologically and to the McDaniels offense.

If Henry and Hooper stay healthy, no problem. If one or both go down, especially Henry, the season is lost.

No decent tight ends drafted by the Patriots in a looong time.

 

[stcjones]

Bedard is talking about his roster prediction to this point….. and I’m curious why the Patriots would keep Bourne over Boutte at this point?! I know Bourne was coming back from ACL repair last year but struggled a lot …..didn’t do much year before either and I believe he has a big contract that we could get out from under if we moved him or cut him. Meanwhile I thought Boutte was our second best WR last year and so far has seemed to have had a good mini camp…..and we still have him signed under rook contract right?! Appreciate all your insight on this

 

[Ian]

Quick reminder, please don’t post entire articles in here. You can post a snippet and a link but you can’t republish it here in it’s entirety for copyright reasons.

 

[Dec54]

Yes, I agree. The Patriots defense should be very good. Possibly elite.

But this statement by TRM is 100% correlated to the health of Hunter Henry. If he goes down for a long spell, it will hurt the offense.

Henry and Hooper are on the wrong side if 30. There is no Y TE except for the free agent rookie from Alabama, CJ Dipre, who should have the advantage over Jaheim Bell.

TE is critical to both Maye psychologically and to the McDaniels offense.

If Henry and Hooper stay healthy, no problem. If one or both go down, especially Henry, the season is lost.

No decent tight ends drafted by the Patriots in a looong time.

If Maye "goes down" then yes the season is probably lost. But saying the same for Henry, come on, he is important to the offence but to say loosing him and the season is lost, is crazy.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Yes, I agree. The Patriots defense should be very good. Possibly elite.

But this statement by TRM is 100% correlated to the health of Hunter Henry. If he goes down for a long spell, it will hurt the offense.

Henry and Hooper are on the wrong side if 30. There is no Y TE except for the free agent rookie from Alabama, CJ Dipre, who should have the advantage over Jaheim Bell.

TE is critical to both Maye psychologically and to the McDaniels offense.

If Henry and Hooper stay healthy, no problem. If one or both go down, especially Henry, the season is lost.

No decent tight ends drafted by the Patriots in a looong time.

Season is lost? REALLY?
Sick of hearing about Bills mistakes and other fkn nonsense.
Have you ever been happy?

 

[WhatJustHappened]

If Maye "goes down" then yes the season is probably lost. But saying the same for Henry, come on, he is important to the offence but to say loosing him and the season is lost, is crazy.

He's Doomsday, we Won 6 SBS, SIX FKN SBS, but he's whining like we're the Browns.
Fk him, he never has anything good to say.
Bah

 

[Salsalife]

Bedard is talking about his roster prediction to this point….. and I’m curious why the Patriots would keep Bourne over Boutte at this point?! I know Bourne was coming back from ACL repair last year but struggled a lot …..didn’t do much year before either and I believe he has a big contract that we could get out from under if we moved him or cut him. Meanwhile I thought Boutte was our second best WR last year and so far has seemed to have had a good mini camp…..and we still have him signed under rook contract right?! Appreciate all your insight on this

Diggs is the X. On the line, coverage will hopefully slide to him. If he can't beat press anymore we are not winning alot of game. Bourne's a better Z I think.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Yes, I agree. The Patriots defense should be very good. Possibly elite.

But this statement by TRM is 100% correlated to the health of Hunter Henry. If he goes down for a long spell, it will hurt the offense.

Henry and Hooper are on the wrong side if 30. There is no Y TE except for the free agent rookie from Alabama, CJ Dipre, who should have the advantage over Jaheim Bell.

TE is critical to both Maye psychologically and to the McDaniels offense.

If Henry and Hooper stay healthy, no problem. If one or both go down, especially Henry, the season is lost.

No decent tight ends drafted by the Patriots in a looong time.

Henry and Hooper are a nice duo, but it's a stretch calling them the x factors of the offense. If Diggs gets injured/shell of himself and Williams is another WR bust, then the Pats will struggle badly.

Bedard is talking about his roster prediction to this point….. and I’m curious why the Patriots would keep Bourne over Boutte at this point?! I know Bourne was coming back from ACL repair last year but struggled a lot …..didn’t do much year before either and I believe he has a big contract that we could get out from under if we moved him or cut him. Meanwhile I thought Boutte was our second best WR last year and so far has seemed to have had a good mini camp…..and we still have him signed under rook contract right?! Appreciate all your insight on this

The media may know something we don't. Take the Joe Milton situation for example. You'd think there's no reason to trade him until what has been rumored/speculated among the media that he was a turd in the locker room.

 

[n1997y]

Bedard is talking about his roster prediction to this point….. and I’m curious why the Patriots would keep Bourne over Boutte at this point?! I know Bourne was coming back from ACL repair last year but struggled a lot …..didn’t do much year before either and I believe he has a big contract that we could get out from under if we moved him or cut him. Meanwhile I thought Boutte was our second best WR last year and so far has seemed to have had a good mini camp…..and we still have him signed under rook contract right?! Appreciate all your insight on this

Bourne has been a solid professional since he’s been here. He was badly treated by the Fat Matt / Joe Judge fiasco, after having a very good season his first year here. Then the ACL was really bad luck for him. It clearly hampered him last year as he wasn’t even ready to go when the season opened, and then he was just another victim of the Mayo ****show.

Boutte has a much smaller body of work, as it took him awhile to crack the lineup in 2023. We have to wait and see if he continues to improve this year after he got the usual sophomore bounce last year.

Over the past two years Bourne has a very slight edge in everything except YPC, so it’s not a clear slam-dunk for Boutte on stats:

Boutte: 20 games 45 receptions 608 yards 13.5 ypc 3 TDs

Bourne: 20 games 65 receptions 711 yards 10.9 ypc 5 TDs

 

[goheels22002]

Maye will hit the 4,000 yard mark if the OL keeps him healthy for all 17 games. I think the backfield will be an important part of the passing game under McDaniels. My roster guess prior to training camp appears below with speed being the key feature of the WR crew. I expect the practice squad to have a couple of capable receivers to step in as the season progresses.

My Binkie is DeMeer Blankumsee out of Memphis. He's a threat out of the backfield, can line up on the line and was a safety valve in college who knew how to find the open spot underneath. From the highlights, he looked liked a capable blocker, but those videos never show the missed bloc and sack.

The offensive line gives more confidence than a year ago. Having a veteran OL coach is huge with some experienced guys to help the rookies and 2nd -year guys. The OT position is much better with Campbell, Moses and Wallace. Cole Strange at OG is a better fit on the line. My roster is light by one OL at this point - that will get ironed out in camp.

QB (2) Drake Maye, Joshua Dobbs
RB (4) Rhamondre Stevenson, Antonio Gibson, TreVeyon Henderson, Brock Lampe
TE (3) Hunter Henry, Austin Hooper, Jack Westover
WR (8) Stefon Diggs, Demario Douglas, Mack Hollins, Kyle Williams, Efton Chism III, Javon Baker, Ja'Lynn Polk, DeMeer Blankumsee
C (2) Jared Wilson, Ben Brown
G (4) Mike Onwenu, Cole Strange, Layden Robinson, Mehki Butler
T (3) Will Campbell, Morgan Moses, Caedan Wallace
DE (3) Keion White, Milton Williams, Elijah Ponder
DT (3) Christian Barmore, Jahvaree Ritzie, Khyiris Tonga
ILB (3) Jahlani Tavai, Robert Spillane, Christian Elliss
OLB (3) Harold Landry, Bradyn Swinson, Anfernee Jennings
CB (6) Christian Gonzalez, Carlton Davis, Marcus Jones, Isaiah Bolden, Alex Austin, Jordan Polk
SS (2) Kyle Dugger, Dell Pettus
FS (3) Jabrill Peppers, Craig Woodson, Marcus Epps
ST (4) Bryce Baringer, Julian Ashby, Brenden Schooler, Andres Borregales

Total Players: 53

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