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[raduray]

Brady did it. The ideal gas law does not explain the pressure drop.

I don’t care. Deflategate is a 2 out of 10 on the cheating scale. Should have cost us a 4th round pick but trying to artificially discredit the dynasty was en vogue at the time.

We still doing this? Ok then.

Thread 'Deflategate Science Simplified'

Jun 24, 2015

It kill me that most of the talking heads are not really addressing the science heads on. If the ball deflation is explained by the temperature drop, then the texts, phone calls, etc all become irrelevant. So, I've tried to simplify how the perfect gas law applies to this.

Perfect gas law says that absolute ball pressure is directly proportional to absolute temperature assuming ball volume is constant. If absolute temperature were to increase 50%, absolute ball pressure would go up by 50%.

Absolute ball pressure is measured ball pressure plus ambient atmospheric pressure.
Absolute...

• raduray
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[ahmed]

I thought this was going to be a MAGA post and was surprised a politics post, no matter how accurate, was being allowed here.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Even dumbass Neil DeGrasse Tyson misremembered that.

& Bill Nye the Seahawks Guy

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

I think a lot of NFL fans resented the Patriots for the whole "team" aspect when they first won. They would rather have superteams with big names and big stars and the SB champion Pats weren't that.

Speaking of the Raiders OT here's Nicolas Cage as Coach Madden in the Madden movie:

Madden was always a big guy and he was drafted to the NFL as an OT. Cage here just looks more like an obese Cage than Madden.

They did a better job with making Christian Bale look like Al Davis.

The enmity between Sullivan and Davis, who's from Brockton, spilled over onto the field.

I suppose I never expected any acknowledgement or apology for Dreith or Tatum, but the look of exactly how Billy, Kiam & Kraft (Orthwein doesn't count, he only wanted to move the team anyway) never reacted to either atrocity is wimpy.

A Patriots team owned by me would know about everything, would kick the **** out of the Raiders every time regardless of record, and would loudly mock them for the loser crybabies they are before, during and after each game.

Yup, the opposite of Kraft.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

I thought this was going to be a MAGA post and was surprised a politics post, no matter how accurate, was being allowed here.

I definitely think we should be able to reference politics when it relates to the Patriots.

 

[Wozzy]

IcyPat and Stinkypete think Deflategate was legit even though the refs measured the Colts balls at halftime and almost all of them were under inflated but they decided to stop measuring… flat Earthers.

Oh yeah… and they’re really Pat’s fans.

Sounds legit…

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

IcyPat and Stinkypete think Deflategate was legit even though the refs measured the Colts balls at halftime and almost all of them were under inflated but they decided to stop measuring… flat Earthers.

Oh yeah… and they’re really Pat’s fans.

Sounds legit…

And the Colts themselves illegally measured a ball...and were never punished.

 

[1960Pats]

Internet Archive never forgets. All websites get backed up and archived. Here you go The Definitive Guide to NFL Cheating - Your Team Cheats

Thanks. That's a pretty good site that I could spend some time on.

I guess it's only fair that if the Colts are going to take over the Baltimore Colts name then they should take over their cheats also.

Edit: And I like the honest way it handled Shula* and the Dolphins* 1972* season. The funny thins is, many fans didn't even know about it until Shula* became the original asterjerk in 2007 when he started whining about the Pats.

I think a lot of NFL fans resented the Patriots for the whole "team" aspect when they first won. They would rather have superteams with big names and big stars and the SB champion Pats weren't that.

The way Bill treated the media probably didn't help the team's image either.

 

[1960Pats]

I definitely think we should be able to reference politics when it relates to the Patriots.

No you don't. You just think you do.

 

[maust]

I definitely think we should be able to reference politics when it relates to the Patriots.

No you don't. You just think you do.

Not to worry, Wozzy or Andy (maybe both) should be along shortly to tell us all what we were thinking AND what we meant

 

[Wozzy]

Not to worry, Wozzy or Andy (maybe both) should be along shortly to tell us all what we were thinking AND what we meant

Rent free…

 

[Huckleberry1]

I definitely think we should be able to reference politics when it relates to the Patriots.

Ian tried to have a political forum as an outlet for people to talk politics. It was a ****show. Regardless of which side you are on this is no place for politics, it’s destroys the forum.

 

[Ian]

I thought this was going to be a MAGA post and was surprised a politics post, no matter how accurate, was being allowed here.

I definitely think we should be able to reference politics when it relates to the Patriots.

I always prefer not to have to touch any threads and let them go, albeit I did finally slam the door on politics here. We have enough to argue about with the team, let alone the real world, and I'd prefer for this place to be a sanctuary from all that.

That being said, I get wanting to reference politics when it relates to the Patriots. However, the over quarter of a century that I've been doing this has sort of proven how difficult that seems to be. Unfortunately, the reference always ends up with reactions to real-world events, and then things just go off the rails.

Granted, there's times where those things do intersect (the Brady/Belichick political gear/his letter, etc), which essentially makes @Actual Pats Fan 's point. But for the most part, I think the majority of people have done a good job in the last couple of years separating the two and keeping things football-related.

Let's face it. Regardless of what part of the fence you're on, the world's a mess. Sports and football are at least an escape, and that's what my focus is here.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Ian tried to have a political forum as an outlet for people to talk politics. It was a ****show. Regardless of which side you are on this is no place for politics, it’s destroys the forum.

I always prefer not to have to touch any threads and let them go, albeit I did finally slam the door on politics here. We have enough to argue about with the team, let alone the real world, and I'd prefer for this place to be a sanctuary from all that.

That being said, I get wanting to reference politics when it relates to the Patriots. However, the over quarter of a century that I've been doing this has sort of proven how difficult that seems to be. Unfortunately, the reference always ends up with reactions to real-world events, and then things just go off the rails.

Granted, there's times where those things do intersect (the Brady/Belichick political gear/his letter, etc), which essentially makes @Actual Pats Fan 's point. But for the most part, I think the majority of people have done a good job in the last couple of years separating the two and keeping things football-related.

Let's face it. Regardless of what part of the fence you're on, the world's a mess. Sports and football are at least an escape, and that's what my focus is here.

Of course, the problem is that people do take sides, which causes acute deafness to reason, common sense and reality.

As I've said before, people are emotional. The fact that the Patriots never cheated and have been unfairly targeted and mistreated for the last 55 years is either denied or less important than hating them.

The vast majority of Americans were (and are) OK with Executive Order 9066. They either believed the nonsense or, for the majority, knew there were no spies amongst the thousands of assimilated, multigenerational, English speaking, loyal, hard working innocent American citizen families of Japanese ancestry in 1942 who had their homes, jobs, money and lives stolen from them before they were rounded up, shipped to the Dust Bowl and held at gunpoint for years in concentration camps before being ordered to sign a renunciation of alliance to some foreign leader they were never allied to in the first place.

They just wanted to exercise their latent racism and hatred, and Pearl gave them an excuse to do it.

Just like 9/11 did for the already sick, twisted, evil immigration system set up after the Civil War. Those hijackers were not undocumented (or Iraqi or Afghan); they actually received their student visa renewal notices in the mail six months AFTER flying planes into the World Trade Center. The vast majority of the 11-12 million+ undocumented in this country courageously escaped the poverty inflicted upon their countries by the U.S. for decades even before Reagan's Death Squads, came here only to work doing jobs which lazy American citizens won't do, survive and try to raise families in the midst of prejudice and (yes) government imposed disadvantage and only did so without documentation because they couldn't get a visa. The $multi-billion industry of enforcement, terror, torture and incarceration is dependent upon the same ignorance and hatred, and the Dems had twenty years of Clinton, Obama and Biden not just doing nothing but making it worse. The infinitesimal percentage of those who are actual criminals are easily able to blend in and hide from law enforcement who are too busy going after innocent families anyway.

This could easily and quickly all be fixed if we had a president with Carter's values and morals along with Trump's determination and fearless use of the office's authority.

 

[1960Pats]

Ian tried to have a political forum as an outlet for people to talk politics. It was a ****show. Regardless of which side you are on this is no place for politics, it’s destroys the forum.

Dumping the PoFo was one of Ian's better moves. There are plenty of other places to go to talk politics.

This one was suggested by one of the posters here... The Briefing Room - Index

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Sideline Gatorade drinking controversy

Main article: 1975 National Football League player beverage controversy

In an incident dubbed "GatorGate," on October 6, 1975, NFL security caught a Cowboys assistant serving orange-flavored Gatorade to players on the sidelines. The NFL rules state "No commercial beverages of any kind are permitted to be in use on the sidelines, on the field, or in the locker room during the game which are not sanctioned by the league." Only the lemon lime version of Gatorade is listed as authorized for use in the NFL, although there is no restriction on varying flavors or colors. Lions coach Rick Forzano, a former assistant at the Naval Academy when Roger Staubach was quarterback, tipped off league officials that the Cowboys might have been serving illegal beverages. After the game, the Lions formally complained to the league.

On October 11, the NFL fined Cowboys Head Coach Tom Landry $500,000—the largest fine ever imposed on a coach in the league's 55-year history, and fined the Cowboys $250,000, both the maximum fines allowable under league rules. Additionally, the Cowboys forfeited their first round draft pick in the 1976 NFL Draft. Pete Rozelle, an alumnus of the University of San Francisco, said that he fined the Cowboys as a team because Landry exercises so much control over the Cowboys' on-field operations that "his actions and decisions are properly attributed to the club." Rozelle considered suspending Landry, but decided that taking away draft picks would be more severe in the long run. Alouicious Tomase, New York Daily News columnist, stated Landry should have been suspended by Rozelle for the Cowboys' next game against the Giants. Freelance sports reporter Chris Mortensen reported that the Cowboys' Gatorade was likely spiked with illegal steroids.

Landry later issued the following statement:

I accept full responsibility for the actions that led to tonight's ruling. Once again, I apologize to the Schramm family and every person directly or indirectly associated with the Dallas Cowboys for the embarrassment, distraction and penalty my mistake caused. I also apologize to Cowboys fans and would like to thank them for their support during the past few days and throughout my career. [...] As the Commissioner acknowledged, our use of orange Gatorade had no impact on the outcome of last week's game. We have never used orange Gatorade to obtain a competitive advantage while the game was in progress. [...] Part of my job as head coach is to ensure that our football operations are conducted in compliance of the league rules and all accepted interpretations of them. My interpretation of a rule in the Constitution and Bylaws was incorrect. [...] With tonight's resolution, I will not be offering any further comments on this matter. We are moving on with our preparations for Sunday's game.

Several coaches of other teams admitted using orange flavored Gatorade. Ultimately, the only technical violation Rozelle was able to determine the Cowboys committed was the use of blue and white colored coolers instead of the common green and orange coolers.

The sanctions against Landry were the harshest imposed on a head coach in league history.

So, I guess the question now is, how does this affect Tom Landry's legacy? He and the Cowboys will forever be tainted by GatorGate.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

Didn’t we also play better after the half when all the footballs were full of air?