The Fact-Free World We Live In (yourteamcheats.com is no longer online)

[Koma]

New website documents how your favorite NFL team cheated

Accusations range from taping signals to performance enhancing drugs, and from tampering to salary cap shenanigans.

www.cbssports.com

'bitter Patriots fan'=objective, fact based intelligent person

Number of times a player/coach/front office person/media member/fan who made false or ridiculous claims about the Patriots was described by the media as “bitter”: Zero

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

Yet, I still have to check the pressure in my tires every change of season...

What’s sad is that I need to do that even here in FL, so I can definitely see it happening up north….

 

[Huckleberry1]

All the tires on all the cars I’ve owned in Alaska and Massachusetts proves the ideal gas law does prove pressure drop in cold conditions. I wonder what Roger thinks when he gets in his car in the winter time and his car displays a low tire pressure alert.

He doesn’t think about it all all, Morgan Freemsn makes sure the tires have full pressure before he drives her anywhere.

 

[stinkypete]

Physics doesn’t cowtow to fandom. The ideal gas law works in degrees Kelvin. If you process the formula in degrees Celsius, it looks like a 30% pressure drop. When you do the same math and degrees Kelvin, it only accounts for about 7%.

The whole thing was dumb, drama queen, nonsense, but math doesn’t lie.

 

[Huckleberry1]

For the record, I believe Brady told his equipment guys he likes his balls soft, it’s kind of a DEI thing, and there’s nothing wrong with that, just a matter of QB preference. In fact the New York Times did a big piece on how Eli Manning had their equipment guys use enhanced interrogation on his game balls before they played, and ******* Rodgers like his at 25 PSI, so they would float for miles, but they played for the Giants and Packers, so Roger was cool with that. But I don’t believe Brady told the equipment guys to **** with the balls after the officials approved them, although they may have done that others own accord, out of allegiance to Brady. Either way it made no difference, as the Patriots would have destroyed the Colts that day if they were using ping pong balls. That was a pure vendetta on the part of Jim Kensil and the league. Although I have to give the league some credit here, because once they got caught being scumbags they forced Kensil to climb K2 and he was never heard from again. Personally I hope he slipped on the Bottleneck and fell 10,000 feet to his death, that would be appropriate.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Physics doesn’t cowtow to fandom. The ideal gas law works in degrees Kelvin. If you process the formula in degrees Celsius, it looks like a 30% pressure drop. When you do the same math and degrees Kelvin, it only accounts for about 7%.

The whole thing was dumb, drama queen, nonsense, but math doesn’t lie.

Nice try, but you didn’t answer the question. Why did Goodell dispose of the data if it proved to be right?

 

[sb1]

Physics doesn’t cowtow to fandom. The ideal gas law works in degrees Kelvin. If you process the formula in degrees Celsius, it looks like a 30% pressure drop. When you do the same math and degrees Kelvin, it only accounts for about 7%.

The whole thing was dumb, drama queen, nonsense, but math doesn’t lie.

As I said it's plausible that Brady asked his equipment guys to always make sure the balls were inflated properly to his preference and that's what they did - and he probably didn't ask them nicely judging by how salty McNally was in those texts. But I really don't think anything nefarious happened that night.

Not sure where you got your numbers but a measurement around 11.3 PSI can be entirely explained by the ideal gas law using ambient conditions in degrees K and a starting point of 12.5 PSI. (reference: ChatGPT) Sure a couple of balls were measured slightly lower and there could be other explanations for that including different gauges used- but the original 11 were definitely not "significantly underinflated" purposely as the NFL narrative tried to say.

The league couldn't have cared less about football pressure until that night and they stopped caring again after they won in court over Brady.

 

[1960Pats]

Brady did nothing with the balls that day. The only person who did anything wrong with the balls was the NYFL employee who was fired. The fact that we're still talking about this is an example of how harmful the lie is.

 

[1960Pats]

Then why did the NFL get rid of all of the data they gathered on air pressure in game balls the following season? Goodell promised he would show it to the world, and when asked at the next Super Bowl said they had disposed of it?

Destroying the evidence is the same tactic that Goody & The 32 used with the supposed illegal filming in 2007.

 

[XLIX]

Brady did it. The ideal gas law does not explain the pressure drop.

It absolutely does when one considers the half-ass way they conducted their starting measurements and their ending measurements.

 

[InRodWeRust]

Brady did it. The ideal gas law does not explain the pressure drop.

I don’t care. Deflategate is a 2 out of 10 on the cheating scale. Should have cost us a 4th round pick but trying to artificially discredit the dynasty was en vogue at the time.

Yeah you're right. This M.I.T. professor is a total buffoon and has no idea what he's talking about.

But yeah keep telling yourself otherwise.

 

[InRodWeRust]

yourteamcheats.com is no longer online.

Internet Archive never forgets. All websites get backed up and archived. Here you go The Definitive Guide to NFL Cheating - Your Team Cheats

 

[Steve102]

Deflategate and the subsequent witch hunt by the league was about getting Brady and making an example of him. The union agreed to let Goodell have absolute power to do whatever he saw fit. He saw fit to suspend Brady because 1) he could. By taking down arguably the biggest star of the league, he showed the rank and file that no one was immune to his kangaroo courts. 2) Brady laughed that the Ravens should know the rules better in a presser and they dropped the dime to the Colts. It was an opportunity to try to get even with Brady and the Colts were more than keen on being a narc in an effort to get Brady off the field, since they already had a track record of trying to beat the Pats off the field with the whole rule change thing and ... 3) It was in retaliation for Brady putting his name on the concussion lawsuit.

The league never gave two chits about the PSI, that was all doctored up BS for TV. No doubt their findings exonerated Brady, otherwise they would have shown them and made themselves look better. They all but confirmed that by not showing their findings. Everyone knows air pressure goes down when it's cold. Every winter, your TPMS light comes on, yes? There you go.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Internet Archive never forgets. All websites get backed up and archived. Here you go The Definitive Guide to NFL Cheating - Your Team Cheats

Thank God.

It's the only definitive and comprehensive accounting of teams' transgressions and how they were treated by the league and media that I know of.

Being aware and informed on subjects is too often in complete contradiction to the public narratives that most people believe. I know it's fostered skepticism and isolation in me but that's just what I am, for hopefully better than worse.

 

[Kasmir]

Brady did it. The ideal gas law does not explain the pressure drop.

I don’t care. Deflategate is a 2 out of 10 on the cheating scale. Should have cost us a 4th round pick but trying to artificially discredit the dynasty was en vogue at the time.

It does if you properly account for atmospheric pressure. At the time, lots of folks attempted to apply their memory of high school physics and forgot that you have to add in the ambient air pressure in their pv=nRt calculation.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Deflategate and the subsequent witch hunt by the league was about getting Brady and making an example of him. The union agreed to let Goodell have absolute power to do whatever he saw fit. He saw fit to suspend Brady because 1) he could. By taking down arguably the biggest star of the league, he showed the rank and file that no one was immune to his kangaroo courts. 2) Brady laughed that the Ravens should know the rules better in a presser and they dropped the dime to the Colts. It was an opportunity to try to get even with Brady and the Colts were more than keen on being a narc in an effort to get Brady off the field, since they already had a track record of trying to beat the Pats off the field with the whole rule change thing and ... 3) It was in retaliation for Brady putting his name on the concussion lawsuit.

The league never gave two chits about the PSI, that was all doctored up BS for TV. No doubt their findings exonerated Brady, otherwise they would have shown them and made themselves look better. They all but confirmed that by not showing their findings. Everyone knows air pressure goes down when it's cold. Every winter, your TPMS light comes on, yes? There you go.

Let's face it, our dynasty was a perfect storm of things the NFL, the media and the world do not like:

-The Patriots
-Bob Kraft
-Bill Belichick
-Tom Brady

That they started winning in '01 was immediately disliked and disapproved of and denigrated by all of them. The Snow Bowl is referred to as the 'Tuck Rule Game', that is, the 'infamous', 'controversial' 'Tuck Rule Game' because the Patriots won it.

The Raiders' identity is defined as entirely unwarranted butt hurt over two simple correctly called plays.

They won two (2) legitimate titles because Mr. Davis was smart enough to pick up Jim Plunkett off waivers, and lucky enough to have Pastorini get hurt.

 

[XLIX]

It does if you properly account for atmospheric pressure. At the time, lots of folks attempted to apply their memory of high school physics and forgot that you have to add in the ambient air pressure in their pv=nRt calculation.

Even dumbass Neil DeGrasse Tyson misremembered that.

 

[XLIX]

The league never gave two chits about the PSI, that was all doctored up BS for TV. No doubt their findings exonerated Brady, otherwise they would have shown them and made themselves look better. They all but confirmed that by not showing their findings. Everyone knows air pressure goes down when it's cold. Every winter, your TPMS light comes on, yes? There you go.

I remember before deflategate the Panthers openly tampered with the balls on live TV. As Fox was goning to break, they were holding the balls above the hot air heater on the sideline. I chuckled to myself about how that was illegal but didn’t think much of it.

So what was their punishment? They received a warning letter - and not even a particularly sternly worded one - from the league not to do it again.

 

[sb1]

Too bad Brunell wasn't picked to present the Lombardi to Brady and the Patriots in the processional line after the comeback.

 

[sb1]

Let's face it, our dynasty was a perfect storm of things the NFL, the media and the world do not like:

-The Patriots
-Bob Kraft
-Bill Belichick
-Tom Brady

That they started winning in '01 was immediately disliked and disapproved of and denigrated by all of them. The Snow Bowl is referred to as the 'Tuck Rule Game', that is, the 'infamous', 'controversial' 'Tuck Rule Game' because the Patriots won it.

The Raiders' identity is defined as entirely unwarranted butt hurt over two simple correctly called plays.

They won two (2) legitimate titles because Mr. Davis was smart enough to pick up Jim Plunkett off waivers, and lucky enough to have Pastorini get hurt.

I think a lot of NFL fans resented the Patriots for the whole "team" aspect when they first won. They would rather have superteams with big names and big stars and the SB champion Pats weren't that.

Speaking of the Raiders OT here's Nicolas Cage as Coach Madden in the Madden movie:

Madden was always a big guy and he was drafted to the NFL as an OT. Cage here just looks more like an obese Cage than Madden.

They did a better job with making Christian Bale look like Al Davis.