AB & Other "What Could've Been's" From The Brady/Bill Era

[Actual Pats Fan]

I had a horrible experience with my wife and cousins at a game in the 70's. Bob cleaned up that kind of stuff.

Schaefer Stadium was never a place to take the family for a Patriots game. I mean, it literally wasn't safe. I had a great time every game I went there, but I was a young man.

You're absolutely right about Kraft.

No one can ever blame Bob for being frugal. He experienced it all personally. It's very easy for us to take everything he's done for granted.

 

[jmt57]

I had a horrible experience with my wife and cousins at a game in the 70's. Bob cleaned up that kind of stuff.

As a kid I wondered why my father brought me to Red Sox and Celtics games (Bruins were sold out), but never Patriots games.

As a young adult, once I began attending games in Foxborough I immediately understood why.

 

[1960Pats]

Schaefer Stadium was never a place to take the family for a Patriots game. I mean, it literally wasn't safe. I had a great time every game I went there, but I was a young man.

You're absolutely right about Kraft.

No one can ever blame Bob for being frugal. He experienced it all personally. It's very easy for us to take everything he's done for granted.

Yeah, I didn't know. I had just been married and took my wife and two lady cousins to a Saints game (my cousins had moved to Louisiana when we were kids) and it was a horrible experience.

My criticism of Kraft comes from the fact that the 2000-2020 run ended so badly. He has to take the hit for that.

I also think he could have stood up for Tom and Bill more when the NYFL came after them.

He, like us, had a great run though.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

My criticism of Kraft comes from the fact that the 2000-2020 run ended so badly. He has to take the hit for that.

In retrospect, Bob didn't do much to prepare for a dynasty. He managed pretty well and didn't screw it up.

But, the precipitous fall from success isn't surprising at all to me when I simply look and see that Kraft - and Belichick - did not 'learn' from or 'change' their modus operandi. At all.

I also think he could have stood up for Tom and Bill more when the NYFL came after them.

Bob Kraft is not Al Davis.

Goodell is completely full of ****, most people know it but their hatred for the Patriots is more important to them, and they're secure in the knowledge that that would not ever happen to their team because they're not the Patriots.

 

[maust]

Schaefer Stadium was never a place to take the family for a Patriots game. I mean, it literally wasn't safe. I had a great time every game I went there, but I was a young man.

You're absolutely right about Kraft.

No one can ever blame Bob for being frugal. He experienced it all personally. It's very easy for us to take everything he's done for granted.

Amen. What guy in his right mind would bring women or children there?
With the exception of a couple of Kiam years when we just couldn't stomach giving him our money my brother and I have split a block of tickets since the team moved to Foxborough. Neither of us brought our under age 16 kids or wives to a game until Krafty Bob owned the team for a couple of years.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Amen. What guy in his right mind would bring women or children there?
With the exception of a couple of Kiam years when we just couldn't stomach giving him our money my brother and I have split a block of tickets since the team moved to Foxborough. Neither of us brought our under age 16 kids or wives to a game until Krafty Bob owned the team for a couple of years.

I think it was over a decade between Monday Night games there.

Of course, you're right about Kiam.

But, had he simply done what Trump did with the Generals, that is, sign Flutie and make him the starter, the Stadium would have been banged out every game and the team would have been in the playoffs. All else being equal.

Doug was that popular. And that good.

And if Parcells had arrived and inherited him, we're looking at titles.

 

[maust]

If course, you're right about Kiam.

We felt compromised enough paying the Sullivans, Kiam was a bridge too far. And even if my brother and I didn't feel that way, OUR WIVES did. Man, our women folk absolutely despised him. If we kept paying him the cost at home would have been astronomical.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

We felt compromised enough paying the Sullivans, Kiam was a bridge too far. And even if my brother and I didn't feel that way, OUR WIVES did. Man, our women folk absolutely despised him. If we kept paying him the cost at home would have been astronomical.

The guy really seemed like a good businessman, I still use Remington. The guy even plugged Playtex too.

The kindest way to put it is he was not put together mentally to own a professional sports franchise. And he was tone deaf to the experience and perceptions of women, along with public image. He was really the Clive Rush of Patriots owners.

 

[maust]

The guy really seemed like a good businessman, I still use Remington. The guy even plugged Playtex too.

The kindest way to put it is he was not put together mentally to own a professional sports franchise. And he was tone deaf to the experience and perceptions of women, along with public image. He was really the Clive Rush of Patriots owners.

He helped make Playtex a household name and Lady Remington (along with its jewelry component) made more than the men's shavers but he was forced to rename it just to get it away from the misogynistic scent he had associated with Remington. It was the 80's & 90's, men could still get away with being openly sexist pigs with a lot of women. You just couldn't be a blatant misogynist and still expect to sell them ****

 

[1960Pats]

Amen. What guy in his right mind would bring women or children there?
With the exception of a couple of Kiam years when we just couldn't stomach giving him our money my brother and I have split a block of tickets since the team moved to Foxborough. Neither of us brought our under age 16 kids or wives to a game until Krafty Bob owned the team for a couple of years.

You talkin' to me?

I learned the hard way. As we were leaving a game, one of my cousins who had moved to Louisiana years before, looked at me and said, with her new southern drawl, "cousin', this is why we will never, ever come back here." Meaning to live here again. And they didn't.

 

[maust]

You talkin' to me?

I wasn't. It was a poor turn of phrase and I would hope no offense was taken where none was offered.

 

[1960Pats]

I wasn't. It was a poor turn of phrase and I would hope no offense was taken where none was offered.

No problem at all. I meant it as a joke.

And those of you who knew enough to stay away (for me it was the late 70's) were spot on and I wish I knew. It was a horrible experience that still gets me angry. I couldn't believe the stuff that 30 guys were saying to my new wife and two lady cousins.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

No problem at all. I meant it as a joke.

And those of you who knew enough to stay away (for me it was the late 70's) were spot on and I wish I knew. It was a horrible experience that still gets me angry. I couldn't believe the stuff that 30 guys were saying to my new wife and two lady cousins.

I was a teenager in the 70's, my first Foxborough visit wasn't until the 80's. I just knew, I'd heard enough to avoid it, like the Combat Zone.

 

[maust]

No problem at all. I meant it as a joke.

And those of you who knew enough to stay away (for me it was the late 70's) were spot on and I wish I knew. It was a horrible experience that still gets me angry. I couldn't believe the stuff that 30 guys were saying to my new wife and two lady cousins.

Your use of the emoji made it clear you were having fun with it, I just couldn't find an appropriate one. Still, I did step in it and the least I could do is apologize. Although clearly you were out your bleepin' mind, it was the 70's and we all did far crazier ****

 

[1960Pats]

I was a teenager in the 70's, my first Foxborough visit wasn't until the 80's. I just knew, I'd heard enough to avoid it, like the Combat Zone.

The first and only time I was in the Combat Zone I was underage. As I sat at the bar next to the stairs that the strippers used, an older dancer was waiting to go on stage and she looks at me and asks, "you wanna s**k me or f**k me?" I almost got up and ran away I was so scared.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

The first and only time I was in the Combat Zone I was underage. As I sat at the bar next to the stairs that the strippers used, an older dancer was waiting to go on stage and she looks at me and asks, "you wanna s**k me or f**k me?" I almost got up and ran away I was so scared.

Hate to admit it, but I could have used her many times over the years.

I'd have preferred to take her back to my place, or at least a hotel.

Glad you got out of there alive.

 

[Not-A-Chiefs-Fan]

Ya know something I've been legit curious about, do you guys think you had a chance at a 7th Lombardi if you kept Brady for one more year?

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Ya know something I've been legit curious about, do you guys think you had a chance at a 7th Lombardi if you kept Brady for one more year?

Obviously, but the reality was that Tom was ready to get out of town two years prior and Kraft talked him out of it.

 

[Not-A-Chiefs-Fan]

Obviously, but the reality was that Tom was ready to get out of town two years prior and Kraft talked him out of it.

I thought it was Bill that wanted him out?

 

[Clonamery]

I thought it was Bill that wanted him out?

1st mistake.