Celtics 2024-2025 Discussion

[Brewskies]

I agree with most of these ideas. If there’s a big market for Brown, it makes a lot of sense to trade him. Agree on keeping Pritchard and White, unless there are incredible offers.

Don’t really agree on trading Hauser and Kornet. Still good to keep continuity if you can, unlikely to get much return on either of them, and their contract value is fine if they can get out of the second apron by trading some of the big contract guys.

I think Kornet's contract is up and he is FA? So maybe you can't trade him. Didn't Hauser get a new contract, if yes, then trade, not worth the money to keep. He is inconsistent with his scoring.

 

[Brewskies]

Yeah I am leaning that way as well. I really like Brown, but thats what needs to be done. Basically just suck it up next year, get a really high lotto pick in addition to whatever you get for the guys you traded.

However it might be hard to trade all those guys since there aren't a lot of teams that can absorb those contracts.

I agree that there are not msny teams that can absorb the high priced contracts so maybe it has to be a creative trade like 3 teams or the Celtics may have to retain some of the salary like they do in the NHL.

 

[Brewskies]

Horford and Kornet are free agents and given their cap next year, unlikely to be brought back. There is a reason JD Davison was signed to a 2 year contract extension at the close of the G league season - he's cheap.

I agree, you are correct. I don't think Davison is that good, not good enough to keep

 

[Brewskies]

I agree with most of these ideas. If there’s a big market for Brown, it makes a lot of sense to trade him. Agree on keeping Pritchard and White, unless there are incredible offers.

Don’t really agree on trading Hauser and Kornet. Still good to keep continuity if you can, unlikely to get much return on either of them, and their contract value is fine if they can get out of the second apron by trading some of the big contract guys.

kornet is a FA. HAUSER got a contract not good enough to keep based on contract price, we can get someone justvas inconsistent at a cheaper price. I am about getting the money down and getting younger players to fight it out for a job. Start Rebuild in 26-27.

 

[bresna]

All depends who they trade.

If KP is traded they'll need big men at reasonable dollars.

Not really though... even trading both KP & Jrue, they would be just under the 2nd apron cut-off. Adding Kornet who is likely to get decent offers on the open market after this past season, would likely push them right back onto that 2nd apron, negating the reasons for trading KP & Jrue in the first place.

The C's have some paiful decisions to make this offseason.

 

[Real fan 02]

All depends who they trade.

If KP is traded they'll need big men at reasonable dollars.

Probably unlikely JB gets moved, as he is a core player.. I still feel like it's KP..and or holiday.. but also could a contract restructure be in play for Jrue? We don't need to rush Tatum back.. even though there are medical advances that help a player get back sooner.. he's our franchise player and has been an NBA iron man.

I'm thinking chilsom probably moves KPs contract, restructure Jrue and try to add big man who can score down low and for the life of us as fans..OFFENSE REBOUND!!

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[Real fan 02]

kornet is a FA. HAUSER got a contract not good enough to keep based on contract price, we can get someone justvas inconsistent at a cheaper price. I am about getting the money down and getting younger players to fight it out for a job. Start Rebuild in 26-27.

Even while Tatum recovers we still have some core players. I'm thinking trying to restructure Jrue, and trading KP would help the apron situation...

If we could get a younger big man who can score down low and offensive rebound that would be a godsend. We don't need anymore 7ft 3 point shooters.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Probably unlikely JB gets moved, as he is a core player.. I still feel like it's KP..and or holiday.. but also could a contract restructure be in play for Jrue? We don't need to rush Tatum back.. even though there are medical advances that help a player get back sooner.. he's our franchise player and has been an NBA iron man.

I'm thinking chilsom probably moves KPs contract, restructure Jrue and try to add big man who can score down low and for the life of us as fans..OFFENSE REBOUND!!

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NBA players don't redo deals downward as they are guaranteed

 

[Real fan 02]

NBA players don't redo deals downward as they are guaranteed

Yes i know NBA players contracts are guaranteed but I still think a restructuring could happen no?

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Yes i know NBA players contracts are guaranteed but I still think a restructuring could happen no?

No. It would set a precedent. Never going to happen.

 

[Real fan 02]

No. It would set a precedent. Never going to happen.

Thanks for that clarification. I was just curious

 

[bresna]

I agree that there are not msny teams that can absorb the high priced contracts so maybe it has to be a creative trade like 3 teams or the Celtics may have to retain some of the salary like they do in the NHL.

The second apron rules restrict trades that play games with cash:

Teams cannot send cash out in trades and cannot acquire a player in a sign-and-trade if that keeps them above the second apron.​

 

[bresna]

Watching some highlights of the current playoff games makes me really wish that the Knicks face the Thunder in the finals. It could be labeled the "Who flops best?" series. I think SGA beats out Brunson, but I'm not sure. That said, the whole Thunder team seems to be able to flop on cue. It's like watching a soccer game at times.

The NBA deserves these ****ty games with the way these refs are calling them.

BTW - I was a bit surprised to see that the WNBA is plagued by this too. I saw the end of the Liberty/Fever game and the referring was just awful. And isn't it funny that once again, the New York team gets the benefit for all of the calls at the end of a close game?

 

[Real fan 02]

The second apron rules restrict trades that play games with cash:

Teams cannot send cash out in trades and cannot acquire a player in a sign-and-trade if that keeps them above the second apron.​

Just curious. What is the most realistic way to keep the team competitive and stay under the rules?

Thanks!

 

[bresna]

Just curious. What is the most realistic way to keep the team competitive and stay under the rules?

Thanks!

It's almost impossible under this CBA. It sucks. I don't understand what they were thinking when they came up with these rules. They have made it almost impossible for a team on the second apron to get below it.

If I were to guess, I think they want to force teams to keep their overpaid stars as some sort of punishment for giving them good contracts. The only way out from under a bunch of big contracts like the Celtics have is to keep the players to the end of those contracts. They'll get out from under KP's contract after next year. Thank god they didn't extend him last year.

Given these cap restrictions, you really have to wonder why they gave Holiday his 4 year extension last year. He's signed until 2027/28, when his salary will be $37.2 Million for a 37 year old player. Given their salary situation at the time, I don't understand this contract at all.

 

[Real fan 02]

It's almost impossible under this CBA. It sucks. I don't understand what they were thinking when they came up with these rules. They have made it almost impossible for a team on the second apron to get below it.

If I were to guess, I think they want to force teams to keep their overpaid stars as some sort of punishment for giving them good contracts. The only way out from under a bunch of big contracts like the Celtics have is to keep the players to the end of those contracts. They'll get out from under KP's contract after next year. Thank god they didn't extend him last year.

Given these cap restrictions, you really have to wonder why they gave Holiday his 4 year extension last year. He's signed until 2027/28, when his salary will be $37.2 Million for a 37 year old player. Given their salary situation at the time, I don't understand this contract at all.

Thank you! That's very good insight. As I don't know why i was thinking about contract restructuring. As That's more common in football. Well the only thing I can think of is Brad and wyc were thinking that the team could put together a run for at least 3 seasons, and with the team being sold it would then put the onus on the new owners? Im just assuming here. Put to your point the extension given to jrue when he looks like father time has caught up to him. KP was extend when he traded for him wasn't he?

 

[borisman]

It's almost impossible under this CBA. It sucks. I don't understand what they were thinking when they came up with these rules. They have made it almost impossible for a team on the second apron to get below it.

If I were to guess, I think they want to force teams to keep their overpaid stars as some sort of punishment for giving them good contracts. The only way out from under a bunch of big contracts like the Celtics have is to keep the players to the end of those contracts. They'll get out from under KP's contract after next year. Thank god they didn't extend him last year.

Given these cap restrictions, you really have to wonder why they gave Holiday his 4 year extension last year. He's signed until 2027/28, when his salary will be $37.2 Million for a 37 year old player. Given their salary situation at the time, I don't understand this contract at all.

Yeah, the rules are tough on what the C's are allowed to do but this was PBS's doing, with the approval of the owners, thinking this team had a 3 year window. If no injuries happened and we'd be in the Conference Finals now we would not be talking about "what do we do now"?

As far as Holiday goes, he was still playing and shooting at a high level last year, with no evidence that he would fall off a cliff the way he did this year. It just happens to some players overnight.

 

[bresna]

As far as Holiday goes, he was still playing and shooting at a high level last year, with no evidence that he would fall off a cliff the way he did this year. It just happens to some players overnight.

But why 4 years?? Why not 2? Maybe 3? I just don't see a 37 year old guard keeping up defensively with the young kids coming out of school. It showed a bit this year, as they didn't put Jrue on the other team's best guard. In fact, they had Jrue covering forwards for many games.

But again, knowing that there were facing big hits to the cap with Brown's, Tatum's & White's contracts all escalating next year, they should have thought a lot harder about giving Jrue this contract. Of course, we don't know what went on behind the scenes either... maybe Jrue forced this?

When it comes right down to it, any team with two max contracts is screwed, as those players alone will eat 70% of the cap. It's hard to get get another 10 players and stay anywhere under the cap when you have two players making that much.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/overview/_/year/2025/sort/cap_total

 

[aluminum seats]

Even with Brown next season, they will not make the playoffs, so they will be a lottery team. Don't you agree? A lottery team is a team that doesn't make the playoffs.

Not that they will do this, but if they brought everyone back next year and the team was healthy they would definitely make the playoffs

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Even with Brown next season, they will not make the playoffs, so they will be a lottery team. Don't you agree? A lottery team is a team that doesn't make the playoffs.

Definitely don’t agree with this. Celtics have 9th best championship odds in 2025-26. They’ll be projected to win around 50 games. Probably looking at a #3-5 seed in the playoffs.