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Which WRs (other than Diggs, Pop Douglas, Kyle Williams) WILL make the initial roster?


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Okay. Like I said, until he’s traded he is ahead of Boutte.
you didn't
The Hollins obsession from some is entertaining. I don't see how anyone can consider him a lock. He's competing with Polk, Baker, Bourne, Boutte and a couple of undrafted players for 2 spots maybe 3 if someone uses an IR or pup spot.

These guys think we keep 5 and get rid of 2 (hint they don't even mention Hollins name).

They "predicted that the Patriots will keep Stefon Diggs, Demario Douglas, Kayshon Boutte, Kyle Williams, and Ja'Lynn Polk meaning that Kendrick Bourne and Javon Baker do not make the cut."

I don't consider Hollins a lock, but the did give him a $3.5m guarantee, with the thinking being he would change the dynamics of the WR room into a much tougher minded, better practicing, more competitive group. I feel he can/will do that, but the team subsequently signed Diggs who will as well.
I expect both of them to 99.9% be on the 53 man. I also expect the team to carry 6, and send one to the PS unless another team make a reasonable offer for Bourne, Boutte, Pop.
 
The Hollins obsession from some is entertaining. I don't see how anyone can consider him a lock. He's competing with Polk, Baker, Bourne, Boutte and a couple of undrafted players for 2 spots maybe 3 if someone uses an IR or pup spot.

These guys think we keep 5 and get rid of 2 (hint they don't even mention Hollins name).

They "predicted that the Patriots will keep Stefon Diggs, Demario Douglas, Kayshon Boutte, Kyle Williams, and Ja'Lynn Polk meaning that Kendrick Bourne and Javon Baker do not make the cut."

I don't see how you don't view Hollins as a lock. They brought him as a culture guy. They have a huge entitlement problem in the room, without a lot of successes. He's here to change things. Gone are the days of Bill bringing in a FA and then cutting them because they don't make the cut. There's too many guys in that room who cannot fog a mirror, this kid can.
 
The Hollins obsession from some is entertaining. I don't see how anyone can consider him a lock. He's competing with Polk, Baker, Bourne, Boutte and a couple of undrafted players for 2 spots maybe 3 if someone uses an IR or pup spot.

These guys think we keep 5 and get rid of 2 (hint they don't even mention Hollins name).

They "predicted that the Patriots will keep Stefon Diggs, Demario Douglas, Kayshon Boutte, Kyle Williams, and Ja'Lynn Polk meaning that Kendrick Bourne and Javon Baker do not make the cut."

Adding to your point if I recall when Hollins was signed on the forum I don't recall any clamoring for him.. suddenly he's a lock to make the roster.. look i like the guy and think he brings alot of veteran leadership. However this is competition.. Vrabel has said this plenty guys will compete and that will earn thier spots on the roster. Furthermore I'm sticking to my thinking of if Boutte and Hollins both had good camps it would come down to do we stick with a homegrown player who's been good and still growing at age 22.. or a 31 year old journeyman? I truly believe that would be the conversation. I agree Baker probably will end up on the PS.
 
I don't see how you don't view Hollins as a lock. They brought him as a culture guy. They have a huge entitlement problem in the room, without a lot of successes. He's here to change things. Gone are the days of Bill bringing in a FA and then cutting them because they don't make the cut. There's too many guys in that room who cannot fog a mirror, this kid can.
Steve,

I tend to agree with you on culture and everything.. but to signbabybrady points... and the point I'm making is likablibility and culture is great but you need to perform. Hollins just like all the other guys will need to earn thier spots.. prove themselves like all players have to do in the NFL. Your right on entitlement.. coach is removing that and also inviting competition at every position. I like Hollins however when he was signed it was a culture move as you mentioned. It's going to be very interesting this camp.
 
The Hollins obsession from some is entertaining. I don't see how anyone can consider him a lock. He's competing with Polk, Baker, Bourne, Boutte and a couple of undrafted players for 2 spots maybe 3 if someone uses an IR or pup spot.

These guys think we keep 5 and get rid of 2 (hint they don't even mention Hollins name).

They "predicted that the Patriots will keep Stefon Diggs, Demario Douglas, Kayshon Boutte, Kyle Williams, and Ja'Lynn Polk meaning that Kendrick Bourne and Javon Baker do not make the cut."

 
Obviously everything depends on performance in camp, but I feel these will be the receivers who make the final 53.

Diggs (starts on PUP)

Douglas
Williams
Hollins
Boutte
Bourne
Polk


Chism on the practice squad.

Like I said, a lot depends on training camp & the preseason games. If Chism outplays Polk & Baker, one or both could be gone. I do think one of the key stories of camp is if McDaniels could turn Polk or Baker (or both) into decent to good NFL receivers. I think McDaniels is a great OC, and if anyone can do it, it would be him. And I also feel eventually Bourne will be gone, along with one of Polk or Baker (or both).

Chism really could be the wildcard. It’s really up to him, he could make it hard for the Pats to cut him if he really shines in camp and the preseason games.
 
The Hollins obsession from some is entertaining. I don't see how anyone can consider him a lock. He's competing with Polk, Baker, Bourne, Boutte and a couple of undrafted players for 2 spots maybe 3 if someone uses an IR or pup spot.
And I don't see how anyone can consider Hollins competing with an UDFA for a roster spot
 
Steve,

I tend to agree with you on culture and everything.. but to signbabybrady points... and the point I'm making is likablibility and culture is great but you need to perform. Hollins just like all the other guys will need to earn thier spots.. prove themselves like all players have to do in the NFL. Your right on entitlement.. coach is removing that and also inviting competition at every position. I like Hollins however when he was signed it was a culture move as you mentioned. It's going to be very interesting this camp.
I assume that it's Diggs, Pop, and everyone else. Williams makes it as a Vrabel draftee. If everyone is equal, then it's Hollins with the advantage. Bourne and Boutte are what they are, I expect no change during camp. Polk and Baker are essentially blank canvases. They could excel, and they could absolutely fall on their face. Even if they excel, there's a lot of entitlement there and they are 100% candidates for being made examples of.

Hollins 100% cannot roll in here and just assume he can loaf and make it. He's here because of the football character, the work ethic and the do whatever it takes to get on the field. Those things 100% put him in the lead. If he shows up in July and he's lost his edge and he's fallen off the cliff, is out of shape, sure, he's expendable. Do I believe any of those things are going to happen? No. He's going to set the tone, and from that aspect, he's a lock. I get that you snobby cult members look at him and think he's not better than what they have and don't want him. I can't stress enough to you, the guys that are here suck. Bad. That doesn't mean they can't be coached to improve, but they've been horrible. Worst in the league.

So, I'll die on this hill. Hollins is a lock. He's going to out work the spoiled brats that are here.
 
Chism really could be the wildcard. It’s really up to him, he could make it hard for the Pats to cut him if he really shines in camp and the preseason games.
yup
Chism is that annual #7 WR who will look good in camp and in the pre-season, and who will have no one claim him when we cut him and put him on the Practice Squad.
 
I assume that it's Diggs, Pop, and everyone else. Williams makes it as a Vrabel draftee. If everyone is equal, then it's Hollins with the advantage. Bourne and Boutte are what they are, I expect no change during camp. Polk and Baker are essentially blank canvases. They could excel, and they could absolutely fall on their face. Even if they excel, there's a lot of entitlement there and they are 100% candidates for being made examples of.

Hollins 100% cannot roll in here and just assume he can loaf and make it. He's here because of the football character, the work ethic and the do whatever it takes to get on the field. Those things 100% put him in the lead. If he shows up in July and he's lost his edge and he's fallen off the cliff, is out of shape, sure, he's expendable. Do I believe any of those things are going to happen? No. He's going to set the tone, and from that aspect, he's a lock. I get that you snobby cult members look at him and think he's not better than what they have and don't want him. I can't stress enough to you, the guys that are here suck. Bad. That doesn't mean they can't be coached to improve, but they've been horrible. Worst in the league.

So, I'll die on this hill. Hollins is a lock. He's going to out work the spoiled brats that are here.
Why do you have to always be so dam convincing LMAO... since you put that way.. hard to argue differently. Suck for Boutte and pop is a bit harsh though??
 
And I don't see how anyone can consider Hollins competing with an UDFA for a roster spot
Because it's not just UDFAs I think you missed the other 4 players I listed 2 of them have already had seasons significantly better than Hollins best.
 
I assume that it's Diggs, Pop, and everyone else. Williams makes it as a Vrabel draftee. If everyone is equal, then it's Hollins with the advantage. Bourne and Boutte are what they are, I expect no change during camp. Polk and Baker are essentially blank canvases. They could excel, and they could absolutely fall on their face. Even if they excel, there's a lot of entitlement there and they are 100% candidates for being made examples of.

Hollins 100% cannot roll in here and just assume he can loaf and make it. He's here because of the football character, the work ethic and the do whatever it takes to get on the field. Those things 100% put him in the lead. If he shows up in July and he's lost his edge and he's fallen off the cliff, is out of shape, sure, he's expendable. Do I believe any of those things are going to happen? No. He's going to set the tone, and from that aspect, he's a lock. I get that you snobby cult members look at him and think he's not better than what they have and don't want him. I can't stress enough to you, the guys that are here suck. Bad. That doesn't mean they can't be coached to improve, but they've been horrible. Worst in the league.

So, I'll die on this hill. Hollins is a lock. He's going to out work the spoiled brats that are here.
Some funny things you say. You state if everyone is equal then Hollins is ahead. If everyones equal then no one is ahead. But fact is at their best Bourne and Boutte have already out performed Hollins best. Hollins will have to do something to beat out Polk because teams don't generally give up on second round picks so quick. Then you still have Baker and some UDFAs to fight off.

Locks Diggs, Pop, & Williams.

Then it's a large group fighting for 2 spots. No locks here not even Polk IMO.
 
I don't see how you don't view Hollins as a lock. They brought him as a culture guy. They have a huge entitlement problem in the room, without a lot of successes. He's here to change things. Gone are the days of Bill bringing in a FA and then cutting them because they don't make the cut. There's too many guys in that room who cannot fog a mirror, this kid can.
Pretty simple really I see at least 5 WR better than Hollins.

Diggs and Pop are way better.

Williams is rookie so I'm not sure but he looks significantly better.

Bourne and Boutte in their best years had better production than Hollins best year.

Then you still have Polk and Baker and UDFAs.

The math simply doesn't add up to Hollins being a lock.
 
Obviously everything depends on performance in camp, but I feel these will be the receivers who make the final 53.

Diggs (starts on PUP)

Douglas
Williams
Hollins
Boutte
Bourne
Polk


Chism on the practice squad.

Like I said, a lot depends on training camp & the preseason games. If Chism outplays Polk & Baker, one or both could be gone. I do think one of the key stories of camp is if McDaniels could turn Polk or Baker (or both) into decent to good NFL receivers. I think McDaniels is a great OC, and if anyone can do it, it would be him. And I also feel eventually Bourne will be gone, along with one of Polk or Baker (or both).

Chism really could be the wildcard. It’s really up to him, he could make it hard for the Pats to cut him if he really shines in camp and the preseason games.
I think Diggs is a Go! game one: his injury happened early last season. I think E Chism is going to be unrecoverable in TC; similar to Pop Dougals his Rookie year. Regarding Polk and Baker if they're any good say bye bye to Bourne and Hollins. I really like Javon Baker Pre-Draft so did Steve Smith: he just didn't translate last year given the circumstances...Horrible HC - ****ty WR Coach and Amateur OC. Baker has legit WR #2 Skill set: lets' hope this new Coaching Staff can unleash it! Regarding Polk we'll see.
 
Pretty simple really I see at least 5 WR better than Hollins.

Diggs and Pop are way better.

Williams is rookie so I'm not sure but he looks significantly better.

Bourne and Boutte in their best years had better production than Hollins best year.

Then you still have Polk and Baker and UDFAs.

The math simply doesn't add up to Hollins being a lock.
Again thank you: I said the same thing: dude's a 300yds a year WR max that's not a #2 WR. People are really setting the bar low around here. The Wild card is K Bourne can he get back to where he was with McDaniels?? Boutte - Baker and Polk should make Hollins expendable.
 
I don't see how you don't view Hollins as a lock. They brought him as a culture guy. They have a huge entitlement problem in the room, without a lot of successes. He's here to change things. Gone are the days of Bill bringing in a FA and then cutting them because they don't make the cut. There's too many guys in that room who cannot fog a mirror, this kid can.
E Chism III will be more of a lock than Mack Hollins...giving You the inside info.
 
The final roster spots for both receivers and defensive backs usually go to guys who contribute on special teams, Polk, Baker, and Boutte haven’t shown any ability to be effective special teams players, so all 3 are in serious peril of losing their jobs. Hollins is a very good special teams player, and Vrabel isn’t going to care about keeping 2024 draftees. Unless those guys stand out in camp and preseason they pretty much screwed.
 
Pretty simple really I see at least 5 WR better than Hollins.

Diggs and Pop are way better.

Williams is rookie so I'm not sure but he looks significantly better.

Bourne and Boutte in their best years had better production than Hollins best year.

Then you still have Polk and Baker and UDFAs.

The math simply doesn't add up to Hollins being a lock.

So who is going to play special teams?
 
I think Diggs is a Go! game one: his injury happened early last season. I think E Chism is going to be unrecoverable in TC; similar to Pop Dougals his Rookie year. Regarding Polk and Baker if they're any good say bye bye to Bourne and Hollins. I really like Javon Baker Pre-Draft so did Steve Smith: he just didn't translate last year given the circumstances...Horrible HC - ****ty WR Coach and Amateur OC. Baker has legit WR #2 Skill set: lets' hope this new Coaching Staff can unleash it! Regarding Polk we'll see.

Bourne 28yrs 6months Week 8 10/29/23 - Activated from PUP on October 5, 2024
Diggs 30yrs 11months Week 8 10/27/24


I fully expect Diggs to start the season on PUP
 
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