Caedan Wallace?

[JohnJH]

eh, its just common sense... hes under contract for for cheap money through 2027... it doesn't hurt to keep him around as a developmental prospect as an OT... depth is good, and having a decent swing tackle is worth the investment in time and the roster spot... if he pans out, great, and if he doesn't or we find someone else who can play better, then you can let him go...

I'd develop him at RG Pape. That's where he was projected to be best suited for in the NFL before last year's draft.

 

[Ring 6]

One of the most disappointing aspects of our team building in recent years is the amount of draft capital we have invested in the O-line with little to no return. A 6th round flier on Onwenu was the only real success we've had. It's ridiculous to think that we need we can't a serviceable, to good starter out of:

Strange
Sow
Mafi
Wallace
Robinson

Injury obviously derailed Strange's career. He was ok but not great in his first year in a gap running scheme, but he's more of a zone scheme o line man.

Drafting OL in round
1
3
4
4
5
6
And ending up with 2 starters and 2 backups is exceeding expectations.

 

[JohnJH]

Moses has played LT and RT - he is versatile. Trapilo also played both positions well at the Senior Bowl. We could still sign Smith at LT as a 1 year stop gap.

Wallace might be a great guard behind Onwenu.

Wallace is better suited at RG than RT. Agreed. Besides, they can cut Onwenu after next season and if Wallace has been prepared properly, he can slide right in at starting RG.

 

[JohnJH]

Onwenu's cap hit next year is big, so we might need a new RG if Onwenu is released. Sow might step in. I wonder if Wallace is a better guard than tackle, like Thuney or Mankins, at the Pro level.

Before last year's draft, Wallace's best projected NFL position was at RG.

 

[signbabybrady]

I don't understand this propensity from some of the fanbase to convince themselves and others - the people they SAW, with their OWN EYES, completely suck as part of the worst offensive line of the past 20 ****ing years, and they're somehow good, or just need more time.

What is this about?

Holding the entire units performance against a rookie who was mostly hurt seems a little over the top to me.

No one is bending over backwards to defend last year's unit but at a minimum Wallace deserves an opportunity to prove himself in camp this summer with a clean slate from the new staff.

 

[mgteich]

I’m thinking they plant Robinson back in his natural position of RG. Hopefully Onwenu lights a fire and reverts back to his earlier form. If not, Robinson takes over next year and Onwenu is gonzo.

Why did you expect Onwenu to look good playing between Jacobs and Brown, two players who may or may not be on an NFL team when the season starts?

The idea is not to get rid of OL's. Rather it is to find them.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Before last year's draft, Wallace's best projected NFL position was at RG.

Robinson was much better at RG last year too. So Robinson and Wallace at RG starting in 2026? J Andrews to back up Bradbury at center or he exits stage left? Strange to LG I believe. Sow is more flexible than Robinson so Robinson is the short straw? We need two OTs to pair with Moses. Trading down for an additional 2nd is the only way to keep filling holes, or we have to wait until 2026. The OL is a mess - let's hope Marrone can fix it quickly, but I bet it will take a couple of years to fix.

 

[Pape]

I'd develop him at RG Pape. That's where he was projected to be best suited for in the NFL before last year's draft.

If the team has long term plans with Onwenu, why would you move Wallace to the interior? If we can manage it, I'd rather keep him on the development track to play outside... hes got the size, but he needs to get stronger and refine his footwork to better deal with the speed rushers

But if he gets the majority of the work on the inside, maybe that signals an end to Onwenu's time here?

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Why did you expect Onwenu to look good playing between Jacobs and Brown, two players who may or may not be on an NFL team when the season starts?

The idea is not to get rid of OL's. Rather it is to find them.

Onwenu will never look good showing up to camp 80+ lbs. overweight. It is not Jacobs and Brown's fault that Onwenu shows up to camp as a fat blob.

 

[Joey007]

I like Wallace to sit behind Moses this year and focus back on moving him to his natural position at RT. He could still be a nice long term prospect. Just could use a little more time to develop that he did not see last year.

 

[JohnJH]

Robinson was much better at RG last year too. So Robinson and Wallace at RG starting in 2026? J Andrews to back up Bradbury at center or he exits stage left? Strange to LG I believe. Sow is more flexible than Robinson so Robinson is the short straw? We need two OTs to pair with Moses. Trading down for an additional 2nd is the only way to keep filling holes, or we have to wait until 2026. The OL is a mess - let's hope Marrone can fix it quickly, but I bet it will take a couple of years to fix.

Hasn't Sow been really not good? I'd keep Robinson over Sow if having to choose between the two. I like OG Luke Kandra as a late round pick. And, the Center from BC.

 

[Ring 6]

Why did you expect Onwenu to look good playing between Jacobs and Brown, two players who may or may not be on an NFL team when the season starts?

The idea is not to get rid of OL's. Rather it is to find them.

You are blaming the guy we gave an enormous contracts bad play on the guy next to him? Hes supposed to make them better with that contract not use them as excuses for his lack of effort.

 

[JohnJH]

If the team has long term plans with Onwenu, why would you move Wallace to the interior? If we can manage it, I'd rather keep him on the development track to play outside... hes got the size, but he needs to get stronger and refine his footwork to better deal with the speed rushers

But if he gets the majority of the work on the inside, maybe that signals an end to Onwenu's time here?

If they either already have Onwenu's replacement (Wallace), and/or they drafy say a Luke Kandra in the later rounds, I see them moving on from Onwenu after this coming season when they can cut him with less of a cap hit.

 

[Pape]

Onwenu will never look good showing up to camp 80+ lbs. overweight. It is not Jacobs and Brown's fault that Onwenu shows up to camp as a fat blob.

that was a BS report about his weight.

 

[mgteich]

Before last year's draft, Wallace's best projected NFL position was at RG.

So say you and a small percentage of those evaluating the draft.

I don't think that he is a better RG than Robinson. Robinson has had a lot of game experience and will learn a lot from the new coaches.

If Wallace cannot be a backup at OT, he will be cut before the season starts.
OG: Onwenu, Strange, Schweitzer, Robinson/Sow
OC: Bradbury, Andrews/Brown/draftee [Schweitzer is the emergency #3 C]
OT: draftee, Moses, Lowe, Wallace/(Jacobs)

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Hasn't Sow been really not good? I'd keep Robinson over Sow if having to choose between the two. I like OG Luke Kandra as a late round pick. And, the Center from BC.

Throwing more late round guys at the IOL has a low percentage chance of success. We already have mid round picks.

Sow was OK in 2023, no-one seems to understand what happened to him in 2024. Athletic guy. Robinson is a bull but stiff, stunts fooled him over and over. It appeared as though Robinson was being played to try to justify the 2024 draft class. My guess is that Sow will rise and Robinson will drop with this new coaching group who will be more objective.

 

[Wozzy]

Wallace was moving guys in camp and was with the starting unit early on.. I believe him getting hurt affected his play the rest of the season.. those ankle issues are season long issues.. like Dugger had. On Polk and baker they Will be properly developed and give everything they need to succeed as pros. They aren't being heavily relied upon like last season unless injuries start to pile up.

Don't hold your breath.

 

[palialka]

Don’t mess around with Wallace’s position. He’s a RT; keep him there. Let him develop behind Moses for a year or two and if that development goes well, then we have our RT for the next 4-5yrs.

 

[Wozzy]

Froholdt is exactly why I said "while here"

and I whiffed on Sow... completely forgot about him... which maybe says something... or maybe it doesn't... ymmv

whether its true or not, the inability to develop linemen over the last 7 or 8 years is based on my perception because the line never really solidified, and has been in flux over that period of time for the most part, least to my reckoning... we kept waiting for guys to step up, they never did...

If you can hit on 30% of your picks you're doing pretty good. They haven't done much well the last few years so there's that.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Why did you expect Onwenu to look good playing between Jacobs and Brown, two players who may or may not be on an NFL team when the season starts?

The idea is not to get rid of OL's. Rather it is to find them.

If you're relying on others to make you look good, then you're not a good player. If Vrabel were here last season, Owenu probably isn't getting that dumb contract he got.