NFL News Official 2025 NFL Free Agency Thread

[Love The Drake]

Darius Slay to Pittsburgh did anyone post that?

 

[JohnJH]

Do it Vrabel!

I was hoping for Willie Lampkins in the later rounds of the draft. Not to mention he could be a backup LS as he was a Center in college and can shotgun snap. Also, he played at UNC with Drake.

 

[Uptown]

FB…yes, please. Either him or Patrick Ricard if he becomes available.

 

[TheRainMaker]

FB…yes, please. Either him or Patrick Ricard if he becomes available.

What’s funny is both of the best and only FB’s left in the league are from ….the Ravens.

 

[Toofy]

Or just allow teams in taxed states, to have a salary cap with a percentage which is higher (adjusted per state) to compensate what players seek to lose due to taxes playing for teams in those states.

Now a bunch of owners probably say “hell no” to that. I think the players would love it, the NFLPA too. It would be complicated to implement, but something along those lines would get a little parity back across the league.

Keep taxes outside of salary cap. Players happy , majority of other owners except cheapskates happy. Win win.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

If we really want a fullback.

Why are the 49ers cutting him? He has a $4.1m base salary. I guess fullbacks don’t make much in general, but still….. is he just losing his effectiveness?

 

[JohnJH]

Keep taxes outside of salary cap. Players happy , majority of other owners except cheapskates happy. Win win.

That's an interesting and common sense idea.

 

[manxman2601]

 

[manxman2601]

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Keep taxes outside of salary cap. Players happy , majority of other owners except cheapskates happy. Win win.

The problem with this is that taxes aren’t as simple as just your home state. Every year will be different depending on schedule. Not sure administratively if it’s possible to make it work where it’s equal team to team. NFL also has no control over the state that endorsements and investment gains would be taxed at. I don’t think there’s actually a way to equalize it.

 

[bakes781]

I was hoping for Willie Lampkins in the later rounds of the draft. Not to mention he could be a backup LS as he was a Center in college and can shotgun snap. Also, he played at UNC with Drake.

Yes

 

[JohnJH]

Yes

Didn't I see him on your Mock Draft? At 5'11 and 270, he nullified the 6'7 345 Lb DT Deone Walker at the Senior Bowl.

 

[bakes781]

Didn't I see him on your Mock Draft?

A few yeah lol

 

[Ring 6]

This is a joke, right?
It's half of what Brissett got.

 

[KCSVEN]

Thanks KCSVEN -

If you're using a loose definition of "bust" and not considering salaries or surplus value created that would explain why we have such differing views on this.

Your conclusion(s) are different than the more recent draft value charts (at least the one I'm looking at) which show average 3rd round picks are worth quite a lot. ~ 75% of an average second round pick which I think is quite differnt than "are not that valuable".

Last word is your

I agree, loose definition of bust.
3 out of 4 picks are not valuable. 3 out of 4 are gone from team by year 4.
If you have an average NFL draft in the 3rd round once a year for the next 8 years you are likely to have 2 starters/heavy contributors by the end of that period.

Compare that to the average fans thoughts when you get a 3rd round pick? Or give up a third-round pick?

2 starters in 8 years has value. The other 6 picks over the 8 years have minimal to no value.

In 9 years of 3rd round picks there are 3 teams with zero starters playing for them that they drafted in the 3rd rd over those 9 years
What value did those 3 teams get in the 3rd round?
Would they have been better trading every year for a veteran that could give them starting minutes?

Again, I'm just talking about odds of success. Hitting on a third-round pick has great value. I'm just saying your odds of missing is way higher than your odds of hitting and you need to take that into account when making trades.

 

[Ross12]

This is basically an outright acknowledgment that he’s being traded. Hard to say where.

 

[mike_usagisan]

This is basically an outright acknowledgment that he’s being traded. Hard to say where.

Such a weird way to say it. “We want to trade him but only if you’re going to treat him like the special angel he is.”

 

[Ross12]

Such a weird way to say it. “We want to trade him but only if you’re going to treat him like the special angel he is.”

It’s part of negotiations.

“We’ll give you a 4th”
“Hmm… it’s worth considering, but Joe really deserves the best opportunity… we’ll let you know if nothing else comes up”
“OK a 3rd”
“Sold!”

 

[silentone]

I agree, loose definition of bust.
3 out of 4 picks are not valuable. 3 out of 4 are gone from team by year 4.
If you have an average NFL draft in the 3rd round once a year for the next 8 years you are likely to have 2 starters/heavy contributors by the end of that period.

Compare that to the average fans thoughts when you get a 3rd round pick? Or give up a third-round pick?

2 starters in 8 years has value. The other 6 picks over the 8 years have minimal to no value.

In 9 years of 3rd round picks there are 3 teams with zero starters playing for them that they drafted in the 3rd rd over those 9 years
What value did those 3 teams get in the 3rd round?
Would they have been better trading every year for a veteran that could give them starting minutes?

Again, I'm just talking about odds of success. Hitting on a third-round pick has great value. I'm just saying your odds of missing is way higher than your odds of hitting and you need to take that into account when making trades.

Just for fun -

I have a first round pick - it's #16 in a normal typical draft
How many "not that valuable" 3rd round picks would you give me for my first round pick #16

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

This is basically an outright acknowledgment that he’s being traded. Hard to say where.

Why do I get the feeling they’ll get at best a 5th rounder and send him to like Minnesota or somewhere.