Interior OL

[Mack Herron]

The entire OL is no better than question marks everywhere. Even with drafting a couple they could use additional FA signings IMO. Offensive production rests on the OL.

 

[Wozzy]

The entire OL is no better than question marks everywhere. Even with drafting a couple they could use additional FA signings IMO. Offensive production rests on the OL.

They have a 90 man roster to fill out, acquire as many good players in free agency and the draft as possible... then let competition sort it out.

I don't think they're done adding at any position group, they should add to the interior lines as well as tackle... some guys can play both.

 

[Mack Herron]

They have a 90 man roster to fill out, acquire as many good players in free agency and the draft as possible... then let competition sort it out.

I don't think they're done adding at any position group, they should add to the interior lines as well as tackle... some guys can play both.

Make it so.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Andrews was a day 3 pick who hasn’t played a down in 2 years

J Andrews played in 2 games at the end of his rookie year before being injured. He was then injured in training camp his sophomore camp. Injuries don't make a player bad.

Playing 71 combined offensive snaps, he lined up exclusively at left guard in two of the late games.

and sow couldn’t get on the field ahead of waiver claims.

Yes, his rookie year was good and we don't know why his sophomore year was a failure. Let's hope it was coaching.

There may not be a position in any team in the league that is weaker than the 3rd starter at IOL for the Patriots

Gross exaggeration

I’d love to know where you think we are weaker that Andrews and sow.

And we have 130 million.

Why are you ok with not improving the weakest unit on a 4-13 team?

I don't think it is the weakest unit.

You are starting your nonsensical, extreme arguing. I will not respond to crazy Andy.

 

[Ring 6]

J Andrews played in 2 games at the end of his rookie year before being injured. He was then injured in training camp his sophomore camp. Injuries don't make a player bad.

Playing 71 combined offensive snaps, he lined up exclusively at left guard in two of the late games.

Yes, his rookie year was good and we don't know why his sophomore year was a failure. Let's hope it was coaching.

Gross exaggeration

I don't think it is the weakest unit.

You are starting your nonsensical, extreme arguing. I will not respond to crazy Andy.

What starting position is weaker than whoever the 3rd C/G is?
Did you watch the games last years? Our OL was terrible, worst in the NFL
Sow was not good as a rookie.

You should probably not argue if your argument is none of 130 mill should be spent on a terrible OL. Look around, your position is the extreme, non-sensical one.

 

[jdlboot14]

Vrabel apparently said Strange will keep working at Center.
Does that mean he's not in the picture to help at LG? If so, does that mean:
1. they think Schweitzer is a legit option at LG?
2. they don't think much of Strange being a top 5 lineman (Bradbury is the clear #1 at C)
3. they plan on signing or drafting more than just LT, IOL is still high priority - LG
4. Robinson or Sow have a real chance

 

[Grogan14]

Vrabel apparently said Strange will keep working at Center.
Does that mean he's not in the picture to help at LG? If so, does that mean:
1. they think Schweitzer is a legit option at LG?
2. they don't think much of Strange being a top 5 lineman (Bradbury is the clear #1 at C)
3. they plan on signing or drafting more than just LT, IOL is still high priority - LG
4. Robinson or Sow have a real chance

Not s great sign. Must mean they think Strange is a backup. Not what you want for your first rounder

 

[mgteich]

Vrabel apparently said Strange will keep working at Center.
Does that mean he's not in the picture to help at LG? If so, does that mean:
1. they think Schweitzer is a legit option at LG?
2. they don't think much of Strange being a top 5 lineman (Bradbury is the clear #1 at C)
3. they plan on signing or drafting more than just LT, IOL is still high priority - LG
4. Robinson or Sow have a real chance

5. Vrabel doesn't think much of Brown and Andrews. Strange is our backup center.
4. Yes, Robinson and/or Sow have a real chance at making the roster.

 

[dliverey44]

Vrabel apparently said Strange will keep working at Center.
Does that mean he's not in the picture to help at LG? If so, does that mean:
1. they think Schweitzer is a legit option at LG?
2. they don't think much of Strange being a top 5 lineman (Bradbury is the clear #1 at C)
3. they plan on signing or drafting more than just LT, IOL is still high priority - LG
4. Robinson or Sow have a real chance

He said he will work at all 3 IOL spots and be given a chance to continue to develop at Center. I think he is still in the picture at LG, but if he excels at Center then that might be his spot. Just guessing based on the Vrabel comment

 

[JohnJH]

Not s great sign. Must mean they think Strange is a backup. Not what you want fir your first rounder

Agreed. But to be fair, he NEVER should have been taken in the 1st Round to begin with.

 

[mgteich]

Agreed. But to be fair, he NEVER should have been taken in the 1st Round to begin with.

IMO, where he was drafted is 100% irrelevant.

 

[Lansdowne]

Not s great sign. Must mean they think Strange is a backup. Not what you want fir your first rounder

In fairness this is another of many not great signs for Strange, between the mediocre play, the injuries, and the fact the team isn't inclined to pick up his 5th year option despite a glaring need for OL help. He's a sunk cost at this point and it sounds like they're going to give him one more chance to salvage some value and earn a role.

 

[JohnJH]

IMO, where he was drafted is 100% irrelevant.

IMO, you're wrong. Good Day!

 

[Ring 6]

Vrabel apparently said Strange will keep working at Center.
Does that mean he's not in the picture to help at LG? If so, does that mean:
1. they think Schweitzer is a legit option at LG?
2. they don't think much of Strange being a top 5 lineman (Bradbury is the clear #1 at C)
3. they plan on signing or drafting more than just LT, IOL is still high priority - LG
4. Robinson or Sow have a real chance

I don’t think that’s what he said. Strange is the starting LG but he can also be the backup C

 

[Grogan14]

IMO, where he was drafted is 100% irrelevant.

It is absolutely relevant. Likelihood of achieving starter status is directly associated with round the player was drafted in.

Bigger disappointment with first rounder as a backup than 3rd or 4th rounder

 

[Huckleberry1]

The entire OL is no better than question marks everywhere. Even with drafting a couple they could use additional FA signings IMO. Offensive production rests on the OL.

I disagree. Getting Strange back and adding Moses allows them to put Onwenu back at right guard, which is where he belongs. Bradbury is a band aid but he’s and improvement over Brown, and I believe they will add a starting left tackle in the draft. The last is conjecture, but that’s still a very different line than last season, and they will be better. This also turns starters into their depth, and guys like Wallace , Sow, and Robinson should all get better with experience. It’s not a world beater OL, but I don’t believe it will suck either

 

[Huckleberry1]

It is absolutely relevant. Likelihood of achieving starter status is directly associated with round the player was drafted in.

Bigger disappointment with first rounder as a backup than 3rd or 4th rounder

You are talking about expectations and perception, neither of which have anything to do with actual performance.

 

[JohnJH]

It is absolutely relevant. Likelihood of achieving starter status is directly associated with round the player was drafted in.

Bigger disappointment with first rounder as a backup than 3rd or 4th rounder

And he was rated as a 3rd or 4th Round Pick. And, they picked him over George Karlaftis, Breece Hall, Christian Watson, James Cook, Nakobe Dean, Etc.

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[mgteich]

You are talking about expectations and perception, neither of which have anything to do with actual performance.

then we area less than a 4 win team since none of the new players has any experience with the patriots and we have lost some players

 

[Huckleberry1]

then we area less than a 4 win team since none of the new players has any experience with the patriots and we have lost some players

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Coaches review players tape and make their judgements off of that, they don’t use where they were drafted in that evaluation.